+ inframe shockMaybe the new Gambler will have it too....?
he knows too much, hence building his own frames.
+ inframe shockMaybe the new Gambler will have it too....?
He's outScotted Scott.+ inframe shock
he knows too much, hence building his own frames.
I call it "shock-in-a-box"+ inframe shock
he knows too much, hence building his own frames.
I assume this started on road bikes and someone thought it was a brilliant idea to put on bikes where most people still prefer externally routed cables.That headset can’t be cheaper. I think it’s purely for aesthetics. The side on photos in a catalog?
You know, with the way mtb has been going lately, I wonder how many mtb owners as a % even know the difference between internal and external. The people who have to maintain bikes should be up at arms… some are owners, others are mechanics! But maybe the mechanics are just happy to get an hourly rate… and it doesn’t matter what they are doing.I assume this started on road bikes and someone thought it was a brilliant idea to put on bikes where most people still prefer externally routed cables.
Makes me think of people who complain about how difficult it is to work on cars these days but never consider that when buying one.You know, with the way mtb has been going lately, I wonder how many mtb owners as a % even know the difference between internal and external. The people who have to maintain bikes should be up at arms… some are owners, others are mechanics! But maybe the mechanics are just happy to get an hourly rate… and it doesn’t matter what they are doing.
You can thank Gary Klein for this development (at least this latest epoch, 87 or so through today). But whoever first developed TITS (tube in tube) deserves some recognition. My old ‘93 Klein was a right pain in the ass.I assume this started on road bikes and someone thought it was a brilliant idea to put on bikes where most people still prefer externally routed cables.
GG?I like how NS do the cable routing, they have a groove down the DT with a cover over it.
Never looked that hard, those things hurt my eyes.
My 19 Sender has a down tube cover with the cables under. Very simple, easy access. But I think they’ve stopped doing it on the newer bikes.
That stupid article is marketing flak from one end to the other.View attachment 177799
Pro Bike Check: Chelsey Magness wins 24 HR Solo World Champs on 2022 Ellsworth Truth
Chesley Magness gives us the low-down on her 2022 Ellsworth Truth XC Bike that she rode to victory at the 2022 24 Hr Worlds in Italybikerumor.com
They peddle you the juicy bits.That stupid article is marketing flak from one end to the other.
the best thing I can say about it is "looks flexy"...Is it a unicorn because all the others broke?
I don't even know if Ellsworths do break but this site has brainwashed me in to thinking that they do.
How Ells would you know what you're really worth?what's most amazing to me about this is that 24 hour racing is still a thing
And why would that be?what's most amazing to me about this is that 24 hour racing is still a thing
Seen this yet?Thanks - that’s the dumbest article I’ve read this week.
because i've heard more about ellesworth than i have about 24 hr racing in the last decade?And why would that be?
Generally speaking, one hears less about endurance events. Probably one of the reasons that I enjoy them.because i've heard more about ellesworth than i have about 24 hr racing in the last decade?
they used to be ***much*** more prominent than they are now.Generally speaking, one hears less about endurance events
I liked the party aspects when I did 24s. I never had any intention to win anything, just liked the challenge and the companionship.The 24hour thing seems like a LOT more support than the endurance stuff I'm used to. For some, I'm sure it's a 24hour party. I'm more used to 100 miles or whatever, or riding for 16 hours straight or more, pushing on when you are only going a few mph.
24hr race at a DH park...that's gotta be a real bad idea, great way to get injured and wreck the bike bad IMO.I haven't heard anything about 24 hour races in quite awhile. When I worked at BikeSmart we would slang parts/repair bikes at the Moab and Northstar 24 hour races while also racing freeride bikes. At Moab we would build a kicker over a fire pit and use glow sticks to create an alternate line off the race course into it...much hilarity ensued.
Yeah, people were getting broke off. The climb suuuuuuucked on a big bike.24hr race at a DH park...that's gotta be a real bad idea, great way to get injured and wreck the bike bad IMO.
can confirmI wish I'd done more DH racing instead. They seem like they were more fun, and the skills would have stayed with me over time. The 24hr races are still cross country races, and all about fitness, which you lose over time (or it becomes harder to maintain at any rate) despite best efforts. All the fastest riders I know today (in our 50s) are former DH racers. My theory is the skills you learn DHing pertain to bike handling and reading the terrain, and those stick with you.