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Not new materials or techniques for Speshy. Very reminiscent of the Ti lugged/carbon tubed Epic Ultimates that were all made in Morgan Hill in the early 90's when the Atherton crew were still snot nosed kids.
A slew of benefits to making carbon frames this way rather than cutting molds for each size. Speshy has a carbon lab in Cally which could easily make the tubes, I would not doubt it if they have some additive manufacturing machines there as well to make the lugs. This thing could be developed and prototyped in the US....it could even be produced here.
i've got one of these old frames kicking about. pretty exotic stuff for the time.
A buddy of mine had a carbon tube/ lugged Miyata in the early 90's Pretty cool bike for its dayNot new materials or techniques for Speshy. Very reminiscent of the Ti lugged/carbon tubed Epic Ultimates that were all made in Morgan Hill in the early 90's when the Atherton crew were still snot nosed kids.
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A slew of benefits to making carbon frames this way rather than cutting molds for each size. Speshy has a carbon lab in Cally which could easily make the tubes, I would not doubt it if they have some additive manufacturing machines there as well to make the lugs. This thing could be developed and prototyped in the US....it could even be produced here.
I could save them a ton of money, and time and just get them some Blow and $1000 per night women to party it up every weekend. It would be more productive and way more fun......
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The Nucleon 16 is a high-pivot 29er enduro bike with a mullet option in the 160 to 180 mm travel category that uses a new type of shifting technology: the Supre Drivetrain from Cedric Eveleigh’s Canada-based development company LAL BIKES. Our earlier Nucleon models, such as the Nucleon DH or the Nucleon Evo, also utilized alternative shifting concepts and combined them with a high-pivot suspension design. These bikes used a modified 14-speed ROHLOFF gearbox with the axle positioned at the level of the swingarm pivot point well above the bottom bracket. A primary drive to the gearbox and a secondary drive from the gearbox to the rear wheel were required. Suspension and shifting performance, robustness and durability of the early Nucleon bikes were excellent. However, the gearbox, including the housing and design-related additional components, caused a weight disadvantage. And even the precise, high-quality ROHLOFF transmissions never quite matched the efficiency of a derailleur system when shifted under load.
Anyone who has followed our brand over the past 25 years has probably come to a certain conclusion over time: You can recognize a Nicolai at first glance. Machine aesthetics. Form follows function. Brutal design. – So shaped one probably rubs one’s eyes at first sight of the new Nucleon 16: Extruded tube cross-sections, a head tube gusset with ports for internally routed cables, an integrated bash guard and a stylish seat tube brace with an integrated clamp. Design also seems to have played a role alongside engineering in the voluminous rear end with its wide phases and dynamic lines. Kalle Nicolai provides the following explanation: “”Life is change. Regardless of our traditions, with the Nucleon 16 we have constructed a completely new bike for a wide audience.””
The Nucleon 16 is designed as a 29er, but can also be ridden as a mullet with a 29er wheel in front and a 27.5er in the rear. The geometry is based on our Geolution Trail concept: a relatively long reach, 490 mm in size M, combined with a 78.3 ° steep seat angle provides a sporty, central riding position and an optimal load distribution between front and rear wheel. The chainstay length grows with the different frame sizes and thus ensures a good balance. The head angle of 64 ° is slightly more moderate than on the extremely flat race enduros of the NICOLAI G series. This allows for more agile handling without significantly compromising running stability and high-speed behavior. The Nucleon wants to be fun, fast and agile. Whips and scrubs are part of that. The extremely low top tube provides plenty of clearance with a standover height of 668 mm and encourages an all-action riding style. Whether enduro, all-rounder or freerider depends finally on the riders. With the Nucleon 16 in any case all gravity and speed fans will have a exceptionally potent base."
Nucleon 16 • Nicolai Bicycles
Entdecke jetzt das NICOLAI Nucleon 16! Das 29er High-Pivot Enduro mit Mullet Option in der Federwegsklasse 160 - 180 mm und Supre Drivetrain
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The Nucleon 16 is a high-pivot 29er enduro bike with a mullet option in the 160 to 180 mm travel category that uses a new type of shifting technology: the Supre Drivetrain from Cedric Eveleigh’s Canada-based development company LAL BIKES. Our earlier Nucleon models, such as the Nucleon DH or the Nucleon Evo, also utilized alternative shifting concepts and combined them with a high-pivot suspension design. These bikes used a modified 14-speed ROHLOFF gearbox with the axle positioned at the level of the swingarm pivot point well above the bottom bracket. A primary drive to the gearbox and a secondary drive from the gearbox to the rear wheel were required. Suspension and shifting performance, robustness and durability of the early Nucleon bikes were excellent. However, the gearbox, including the housing and design-related additional components, caused a weight disadvantage. And even the precise, high-quality ROHLOFF transmissions never quite matched the efficiency of a derailleur system when shifted under load.
Anyone who has followed our brand over the past 25 years has probably come to a certain conclusion over time: You can recognize a Nicolai at first glance. Machine aesthetics. Form follows function. Brutal design. – So shaped one probably rubs one’s eyes at first sight of the new Nucleon 16: Extruded tube cross-sections, a head tube gusset with ports for internally routed cables, an integrated bash guard and a stylish seat tube brace with an integrated clamp. Design also seems to have played a role alongside engineering in the voluminous rear end with its wide phases and dynamic lines. Kalle Nicolai provides the following explanation: “”Life is change. Regardless of our traditions, with the Nucleon 16 we have constructed a completely new bike for a wide audience.””
The Nucleon 16 is designed as a 29er, but can also be ridden as a mullet with a 29er wheel in front and a 27.5er in the rear. The geometry is based on our Geolution Trail concept: a relatively long reach, 490 mm in size M, combined with a 78.3 ° steep seat angle provides a sporty, central riding position and an optimal load distribution between front and rear wheel. The chainstay length grows with the different frame sizes and thus ensures a good balance. The head angle of 64 ° is slightly more moderate than on the extremely flat race enduros of the NICOLAI G series. This allows for more agile handling without significantly compromising running stability and high-speed behavior. The Nucleon wants to be fun, fast and agile. Whips and scrubs are part of that. The extremely low top tube provides plenty of clearance with a standover height of 668 mm and encourages an all-action riding style. Whether enduro, all-rounder or freerider depends finally on the riders. With the Nucleon 16 in any case all gravity and speed fans will have a exceptionally potent base."
Nucleon 16 • Nicolai Bicycles
Entdecke jetzt das NICOLAI Nucleon 16! Das 29er High-Pivot Enduro mit Mullet Option in der Federwegsklasse 160 - 180 mm und Supre Drivetrain
for as much as is going on with this bike, it looks really clean. i honestly like how the rear brake is mounted.
apparently Nicolai approached LAL AFTER they announced it. there's still another company that LAL is working with, but it looks like Nicolai will be the first to market with this drivetrain.
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Lal Bikes on Instagram: "Here’s the Nicolai Nucleon 16. This is highly likely to be the first production bike with the Supre Drive. The Nucleon 16 is an enduro bike in the 160-180mm travel category with shredding capabilities to be expected from high pivot suspension with excellent kinematics. At the same time, it has drivetrain efficiency that’s better than other high pivot bikes, unsprung mass that’s lower than on other derailleur bikes, and bombproof reliability of a derailleur tucked up, far from the ground. To top it off, the Nicolai Nucleon 16 looks as good as it is well-engineered. The frame is aluminum and made in Germany by Nicolai. The derailleur, chain tensioner, and idler pulley are made in Canada by us, Lal Bikes. There have been earlier models of the Nucleon, which had a gearbox and high pivot suspension. These bikes lacked derailleur problems, but like all gearbox mountain bikes, the drivetrain was heavy and inefficient. The Nucleon 16 is a modern, Supre version of the Nucleon that shares the gearbox characteristic of toughness while also having the advantages of derailleur drivetrains, such as low weight and high efficiency. This bike is proof like none other that Kalle Nicolai, who started Nicolai 27 years ago, is as visionary today as he was years ago. Back in November 2021 when I revealed the Supre Drive, I said that I was already working with a bike company. I’m still working with them, but amazingly, Nicolai is not that bike company. I started working with Nicolai shortly after the reveal, and they pulled the build off incredibly fast when considering all that it takes to design and build a frame. The realization of this prototype frame speaks volumes to Nicolai’s in-house fabrication capabilities, their engineering skill, and their bold, innovative spirit. We are very excited to be showing you this bike. The Nicolai Nucleon 16 frame will undergo some refinements, as will the Supre Drive, and then they will be made available for purchase together. This is a big step toward a future where there will be many Supre bikes from many bike companies for you to choose from. ────────────── #nicolainucleon16 #nucolaisupre #supredrive #mtbinnovation #nicolai #lalbikes"
2,321 likes, 137 comments - lal_bikes on July 12, 2022: "Here’s the Nicolai Nucleon 16. This is highly likely to be the first production bike with the Supre Drive. The Nucleon 16 is an enduro bike in the 160-180mm travel category with shredding capabilities to be expected from high pivot...
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Agreed, save for the internal routing on everything.
No pretending with a straight on 203mm mount at the rear!
Is there any single crown fork that will take a 203mm rotor without adapter?
if you look close, they also have the upcoming air shock on display (peeking out from behind one of the dh fork stanchions)
yes obviously. pointing that it's on display means its probably getting closer to launching.
actually looking more production ready
Needs moar steampunk.
Think those stanchions are chrome plated steel or aluminum? Seems odd if they chrome plated aluminum to me.
Highly polished, then anodized aluminum looks lust like that.
Why? Polished coating stanchions have been done for a long time. My 888 had nickel coated aluminum.
RS had the polished gold TiNi that would flake off. Replaced with “slippery silver”. All that shit is mainly gimmicks IMO, but whatever, it can work.
Unless we are talking 10” of travel and you need it for the bushing overlap, I think companies that do USD forks are just being lazy, as they are inferior for MTB purposes, unless you do some exotic costly engineering and production that is better invested in right side up in the first place.