Chainstay lengthening on my current gen Norco Shore doesn't cause a noticeable issue when climbing, only the weight/travel do. It's not as extreme of a rearward axle path as a lot of other designs, ~13mm of growth.
still bums me out that bike never made it to production. how much longer until the patent expires?When FTW had that “variable axle path” VST project going under Sinister I never got much of chance to climb anything on it(big travel mule be like that)
The feeling of the rear end getting MUCHO longer under some circumstances didn’t take all that long to get used to though.
Wowowowow, hold your horses cowboy. Could you please share some more data on that Sinister/FTW project?
Looks flexysinister 'passion'
http://sinisterbikes.typepad.com/sinister_bikes/2006/09/our_passion.htmlridemonkey.bikemag.com
Looks like an old Commencal had a fling with something using a Lawwill rear end.sinister 'passion'
http://sinisterbikes.typepad.com/sinister_bikes/2006/09/our_passion.htmlridemonkey.bikemag.com
you mean like a Sinister?... with something using a Lawwill rear end.
My old sinister R9 was still one of my favorite dh bikes of all time, wish I never sold it- dumped it when old Brad at Nemesis promised me a dh frame and had to buy the ed hardy Demo 7 version right before moving to whistler for the summer. R9+avy was unstoppable.you mean like a Sinister?
Broooooo, linkage activated single pivot isn’t a Lawill rear end, at all, yeah?you mean like a Sinister?
Sorta want
It’s real close to Neko’s bike and rides very nicely. Go for it!Sorta want
Quite close to a Gambler as well, isn't it ? Just a bit longerIt’s real close to Neko’s bike and rides very nicely. Go for it!
That’s sick! 5 bikes, wow.It was so so good seeing 5? frameworks bikes on the shuttle at the same time at Rock Creek yesterday, especially knowing Neko and Logan are in Ecuador right now racin’.
I watched a RAAW fall off the shuttle trailer yesterday, and used that as an opportunity to take an up close look. The Madonna is definitely dope looking, but not as dope as seeing Eastcoast built race bikes out in numbers again at a local bikepark.
It’s dope seeing the repaired early protos out there getting beat on by kids we have all watched grow up racing Downhill Southeast.That’s sick! 5 bikes, wow.
Awesome!It’s dope seeing the repaired early protos out there getting beat on by kids we have all watched grow up racing Downhill Southeast.
Boooo IS headset…can’t run angle sets etc.
Same. Don't really care for the switch to a non-trunnion shock either - that thing is gonna eat upper shock Igus bushings. Sick looking bike otherwise.Boooo IS headset…can’t run angle sets etc.
I'd rather replace bushings than shocks.Same. Don't really care for the switch to a non-trunnion shock either - that thing is gonna eat upper shock Igus bushings. Sick looking bike otherwise.
Double wishbone FTW.Suspension has no place as a structural component on a bike. It will never work.
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Bike designers should have learned a lesson from the automotive industry with the abject failure of the Macpherson strut.
I've had 5 bikes from 2 different manufacturers with trunnion mount shocks and zero issues. I'll take a brand that can make straight frames - not saying that Transition can't, every other bike they make but the Spur has a trunnion shock.I'd rather replace bushings than shocks.
I've had frames that ate bushings monthly and shocks yearly. Execution is usually more important than specific design decisions. Unfortunately execution is hard to measure on the internet, but that never stopped anyone from making conclusions.I've had 5 bikes from 2 different manufacturers with trunnion mount shocks and zero issues. I'll take a brand that can make straight frames - not saying that Transition can't, every other bike they make but the Spur has a trunnion shock.
you actually canBoooo IS headset…can’t run angle sets etc.
You cant ride unless you slacken at least 1.5No issue with IS headsets here, but my bikes are slack enough without an angle set, too.
Sort of, those things use EC bottom cups, so if you don't want to jack up your front end you need to reduce travel.you actually can
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That's too convoluted to be called a real solution. I helped a friend install one of those in a Santa Cruz Hightower and I still think it'd be easier to just hacksaw the front of the frame and glue it again.you actually can
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Not sure how much that adds to the stack, but slackening the HA 1.5 degrees will lower the front end about 6mm so having some added stack is required to keep things the same.Sort of, those things use EC bottom cups, so if you don't want to jack up your front end you need to reduce travel.
My Sentinel 1 had trunnion and was fine. Smuggler 1 was eyelet and fine. My GG is eyelet and has heavy wear on the sides of the bushings. Hasn't smoked the shock yet, but it's an EXT with a pretty burly shaft.I've had 5 bikes from 2 different manufacturers with trunnion mount shocks and zero issues. I'll take a brand that can make straight frames - not saying that Transition can't, every other bike they make but the Spur has a trunnion shock.
Which is worse? Trunion or a shock extender?My Sentinel 1 had trunnion and was fine. Smuggler 1 was eyelet and fine. My GG is eyelet and has heavy wear on the sides of the bushings. Hasn't smoked the shock yet, but it's an EXT with a pretty burly shaft.
My point is that you can get frames with shitty alignment from supposedly reputable manufacturers, and it's far cheaper to replace an eyelet bushing than a whole shock. I wouldn't NOT buy a bike with trunnion, but I'd prefer they don't.
All shocks are put into some kind of buckling load. Air shocks have extra support from the air can. Where are the people bitching about coil shock reliability?Which is worse? Trunion or a shock extender?
All shocks are put into some kind of buckling load. Air shocks have extra support from the air can. Where are the people bitching about coil shock reliability?