You sure that's not a Balfa relaunch?This made me giggle:
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The best part of it I wanted to google an image response to this. So I googled "too much linkage". You know what's the 4th result? A KnollyThis made me giggle:
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You got some pictures mykel?I still like my mulleted Podium and Fugitive.
I'll get me coat.
AvyYou got some pictures mykel?
Avy
Fuckin Sick,I’m lovin that dam Podium. I dont think she’s too busy,she looks ready rip. I see a lot of my favorite riders going huge when I see that bike. I also love the coil rear shock on the Fugitive,and the Down Tube is a Trip? I would love to have um,or just rip um for a day.Avy
Podium V2 - Frame is Noels personal final prototype. Same as production except the Ti hardware does not have a fancy finish. Bought the frame off of him Spring of 2013.
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Fugitive LT - 2019 Stock production frame.
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Those two are my daily drivers.Fuckin Sick,I’m lovin that dam Podium. I dont think she’s too busy,she looks ready rip. I see a lot of my favorite riders going huge when I see that bike. I also love the coil rear shock on the Fugitive,and the Down Tube is a Trip? I would love to have um,or just rip um for a day.
Do you still have them?
Are you not disclosing any upgrades since this shot,the people need to know damit.
Avy
Now we are cookin. So that is 888RC2X Ti? Did you put a Avy Cart in her?Those two are my daily drivers.
Last updates were a few weeks ago - had the Podium's CCDB rebuilt and the Fugitives fork had the bushings sized/burnished.
I will throw up some pics when I put the fork back together. I'm waffling, cause I have to tear the smashpot apart (travel change and re-shim the HBO) and don't want to do it in a cold shop.
Is this really noticeable outside of when you take out the shock and play around? I get that drag is an issue for front forks but I never felt like that was a big issue at the rear. The Warden I tried was really fun.Geo of my Knolly Delirium was pretty damn good and the construction quality was top notch. However, beyond being fugly there was a lot of drag in the suspension from the number of bushings it used.
I'd be thinking more along the lines of alignment, rather than bushings. If even one of those is a little misaligned, the drag would go up exponentially I'd think and there's simply more on that bike that has to be perfectly aligned. Bushing drag is nothing at normal leverage ratios IMO.Is this really noticeable outside of when you take out the shock and play around? I get that drag is an issue for front forks but I never felt like that was a big issue at the rear. The Warden I tried was really fun.
Yeah It's just if that was a huge issue people would raise it and people who ride them would feel it.I'd be thinking more along the lines of alignment, rather than bushings. If even one of those is a little misaligned, the drag would go up exponentially I'd think and there's simply more on that bike that has to be perfectly aligned. Bushing drag is nothing at normal leverage ratios IMO.
Rob hopefully will sell that frame, shock and gearbox for $4000 or less. But I am not holding my breathe.....
I remember talking to a Turner dealer and he said he had to run different thickness shims at the pivots because the frames weren't aligned all that well.My Turner Sultan with only bushings is very nice as long as the bushings are cleaned and greased. I agree with Jm that alignment is more important
... and the official presentations are airing nowRob hopefully will sell that frame, shock and gearbox for $4000 or less. But I am not holding my breathe.....
Did they fix the pedaling issue from the 1st gen where it felt like the chain was a rubber band?Rob hopefully will sell that frame, shock and gearbox for $4000 or less. But I am not holding my breathe.....
Hard to tell. The rear never felt like it moved as quickly when riding as many of the other bikes I've owned, however I have no idea how much the drag from the bushings accounted for that. I've had other bikes with bushings, but those all used bushings at one pivot, not multiple like the knolly did.Is this really noticeable outside of when you take out the shock and play around? I get that drag is an issue for front forks but I never felt like that was a big issue at the rear. The Warden I tried was really fun.
I have had a few Knolly's.Hard to tell. The rear never felt like it moved as quickly when riding as many of the other bikes I've owned, however I have no idea how much the drag from the bushings accounted for that. I've had other bikes with bushings, but those all used bushings at one pivot, not multiple like the knolly did.
Mine could have been alignment of my particular frame. The rear would definitely not cycle under it's own weight - not even close.I have had a few Knolly's.
07 Delirium-T - broken.
09 Delirium-T - warranty replacement.
10 Delirium
13 Podium
14 Endorphin
19 Fugitive LT
The only one with any issues was the 2014 Endorphin. It was a bit tight. New bushings helped, but you could still feel the drag. Having said that, it would cycle fully under its own weight. All of the other have been good, cycle freely with no play. The Endo was bought used, the Podium was Knolly's owners personal bike and the final pre-production prototype. All the others were bought new. The absolute best is the Podium, that one moves like butter, next would be the Fugitive, followed by the 2010 Delirium, then the DT's, and finally the Endo. I would imagine the Podium being so good is because of its pedigree. The Endo was raced by a Knolly grass-roots rider. Maybe it was tweaked a bit and that is why it was a bit stiffer. Anyway I have never felt that the rear end could not keep up on any of the bikes.
/coolstorybro
2002 Balfa BB7, gnar plow....still have not ridden a DH bike that handled the chunk like that first gen 26" Zerode did 10+ years ago.
Isn't that just an Addix Ultra soft Big Betty?maybe the new Schwalbe tyre on the back there
Someone on Vital pointed out the name is visible in one shot. Something like Hunting Helen or whatever. All new tyre. Some kind of faster rolling Betty alternative maybe.Isn't that just an Addix Ultra soft Big Betty?
Edit: ah, nope, the center knobs form sort of a triangular pattern
I mean it's still a bad idea I just wonder if it's really an issue that affects riding not "dry" testing and parking lots. I would still prefer to what was on my legend as it had no drag at all but I'm still surprised that frame isn't more expensive given how well it's made.Hard to tell. The rear never felt like it moved as quickly when riding as many of the other bikes I've owned, however I have no idea how much the drag from the bushings accounted for that. I've had other bikes with bushings, but those all used bushings at one pivot, not multiple like the knolly did.
They've definitely gone up in price over the years. A Banshee Legend frame with shock is priced at $4100cdn now.I mean it's still a bad idea I just wonder if it's really an issue that affects riding not "dry" testing and parking lots. I would still prefer to what was on my legend as it had no drag at all but I'm still surprised that frame isn't more expensive given how well it's made.
Missed that. The OG price was sub $3000 in 2010 so it's probably in line with inflation but the basket construction and ti pivot axles are probably not lowering production costs on them. If I had to rebuy a DH bike it would still probably be a legendThey've definitely gone up in price over the years. A Banshee Legend frame with shock is priced at $4100cdn now.
All the V3 frames also had a price jump, over the V2's.
Is this the new demo? Since it looks like the Legend with a crappy rear endGood shot of this monstrosity.
Carbon tubes, additive mfg lugs, ?? shock setup, industrial strength chain stay.
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Yeah you used to be able to get a Banshee frame for quite cheap.Missed that. The OG price was sub $3000 in 2010 so it's probably in line with inflation but the basket construction and ti pivot axles are probably not lowering production costs on them. If I had to rebuy a DH bike it would still probably be a legend
Because F-you. Sliding dropouts maybe for different tire sizes so you can put a smaller one in there and put the wheel closer, but IME, sliding dropouts are a horrible way to do this. My $500 chinese frame has two dropout positions, one for big tires and one for really big tires (the biggest they make). There are two brake mounts and switching everything takes less than 5 min.Why the sliding drop outs?
Avy
The Legends were considerably more than the rest of their offer but that's because the Legend was a fair bit more expensive to produce. I think Titan is closest to it. $3100 is rough. I paid $4000 for an ohlins equipped YT Capra. Frame only offers in 2023 seem to be available only to 40+ year old ppl with good jobs or young pple who can spend all their income on bikes since they have no other expenses.Yeah you used to be able to get a Banshee frame for quite cheap.
The v1 Spitfire I had was purchased for $1500 with shock.
V2 Rune frame I picked up a few years ago was I believe around $1800 or so.
Now the V3 frames are a stout $3100ish Canadian.