Shortsville is about 5 miles east of me it's the size of a postage stamp surprised anyone ever heard of itAnd then there is CNY, which is west of, say, canastota and east of Shortsville. Usually includes Watertown and Ithaca. (Which is really in the Finger Lakes region).
Anything further south is Southern Tier.
Does CNY go as Far East as New Hartford/Utica?