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Nihilist dog is nihilistic.
With all the late shows and every other media outlet and meme (including us) making fun of trump, I really wonder sometimes if were not trivialising things to the point where people forget how bad this shit actually is.
Its like were not taking things nearly as serious as we should be.
Its like were not taking things nearly as serious as we should be.
One half of the US population does recognize that this is not normal and is politely raising their hands while waiting to speak. The other half recognizes the situation as well, but loudly proclaims "so what".
Yes I understand. And thats great and helpful in some situations, but I sometimes get the feeling people have become desensitized because all we do is laugh about it.
I think a lot of people need to be reminded just how bad all of this actually is.
Actually its the same on the other side. It is quite comical listening to the far left cry & whine since Trump was elected. Want him out? Vote him out, its that simple. Problem is, if the economy and jobs keep rising, he's going to be a tough one to beat. Again, at this point Biden will be the lefts best chance of beating Trump. If Sanders gets the nomination, he'll lose. I was talking to my mom & other family who are all total democrats and can't stand Trump. However they did in fact say, if Sanders or Warren are nominated they will actually vote for Trump. I think this would be the case with most moderate democrats, especially the retired ones living off their investments. Keep in mind, we're from CA and already pay some of the highest taxes in the country, not to mention the cost of living here, so its a tough sell for them having Sanders/Warren going after more of their money.
In all seriousness, how bad are things? I get it you hate Trump, and that's totally fine. Trump just signed the USMCA deal that will hopefully bring more jobs to struggling cities, like Detroit. More jobs, people can now be able to pay for their healthcare and support themselves. Is that bad? Just signed the first phase of trade with China, which should really help the farmers. Is that bad? Unemployment is down, meaning people aren't relying as much on government handouts. Is that bad? Life isn't free, somebody has to pay for it. Again, I'm for a flat tax, everyone pays the same percentage whether you make $15K a year or $1M. That makes it fair for all.
US Steel is closing a Detroit-area steel mill and laying off 1,500 workers | CNN Business
US Steel is closing a mill near Detroit, laying off workers and cutting its dividend. The troubled company is trying to reverse operating losses it now forecasts for the fourth quarter.
U.S. economy misses Trump's 3% growth target in 2019
The U.S. economy missed the Trump administration's 3% growth target for a second straight year, posting its slowest annual growth in three years in 2019 as the slump in business investment deepened amid damaging trade tensions.
www.reuters.com
U.S. farm bankruptcies hit an eight-year high: court data
U.S. farm bankruptcy rates jumped 20% in 2019 - to an eight-year high - as financial woes in the U.S. agricultural economy continued in spite of massive federal bail-out funding, according to federal court data.
www.reuters.com
@mandown: Care to address the flat tax fallacy?
who cares about freedom and democracy when the economy is good?US Steel is closing a Detroit-area steel mill and laying off 1,500 workers | CNN Business
US Steel is closing a mill near Detroit, laying off workers and cutting its dividend. The troubled company is trying to reverse operating losses it now forecasts for the fourth quarter.www.cnn.com
U.S. economy misses Trump's 3% growth target in 2019
The U.S. economy missed the Trump administration's 3% growth target for a second straight year, posting its slowest annual growth in three years in 2019 as the slump in business investment deepened amid damaging trade tensions.
U.S. farm bankruptcies hit an eight-year high: court data
U.S. farm bankruptcy rates jumped 20% in 2019 - to an eight-year high - as financial woes in the U.S. agricultural economy continued in spite of massive federal bail-out funding, according to federal court data.
@mandown: Care to address the flat tax fallacy?
You mean the “it seems simple so it must be good” policy that unfairly burdens the people at the lower end of the income spectrum?US Steel is closing a Detroit-area steel mill and laying off 1,500 workers | CNN Business
US Steel is closing a mill near Detroit, laying off workers and cutting its dividend. The troubled company is trying to reverse operating losses it now forecasts for the fourth quarter.
U.S. economy misses Trump's 3% growth target in 2019
The U.S. economy missed the Trump administration's 3% growth target for a second straight year, posting its slowest annual growth in three years in 2019 as the slump in business investment deepened amid damaging trade tensions.
U.S. farm bankruptcies hit an eight-year high: court data
U.S. farm bankruptcy rates jumped 20% in 2019 - to an eight-year high - as financial woes in the U.S. agricultural economy continued in spite of massive federal bail-out funding, according to federal court data.
@mandown: Care to address the flat tax fallacy?
I mean, it seems “fair” if you think that everyone paying one percentage-rate on their income is fair, because it is uniform.
However, there are various forms of income, and many are alien to those unfamiliar with the intricacies of the tax code. If you don’t know that a type of income exists, then how do you consider the impact it might have without relying on others to tell you?
A layer of complexity exists in that “income” can be considered in categories, like cost-of-living vs. disposable. The “poverty line” dictates how much you have of each.
If you have Joe Sixpack earning $100 and 100% of his income is needed for cost of living, then a 10% flat tax means he’s got $90 to survive on. Set the poverty line at $100 and he’s going into debt to survive.
Now Doc Dentist who makes $1,000 and pays the same 10% walks away with $900 at the end of the day. With the same $100 poverty line, he’s now sitting on $800 of disposable income to buy carbon 29’s or invest in real estate (that Mr. Sixpack might live in), or pay investment advisors to suggest how to tax-defer his investment income, allowing his extra money to earn extra money.
Everyone pays 10% of “income” so it’s fair AF by that metric of fairness.
Clearly it’s a condensed and simplified summary. There are various shades of fuzzy colors between the black and white I described, but I was making a point on a bike forum using my phone, not submitting this for peer reviewed journal.
US Steel is closing a Detroit-area steel mill and laying off 1,500 workers | CNN Business
US Steel is closing a mill near Detroit, laying off workers and cutting its dividend. The troubled company is trying to reverse operating losses it now forecasts for the fourth quarter.
U.S. economy misses Trump's 3% growth target in 2019
The U.S. economy missed the Trump administration's 3% growth target for a second straight year, posting its slowest annual growth in three years in 2019 as the slump in business investment deepened amid damaging trade tensions.
U.S. farm bankruptcies hit an eight-year high: court data
U.S. farm bankruptcy rates jumped 20% in 2019 - to an eight-year high - as financial woes in the U.S. agricultural economy continued in spite of massive federal bail-out funding, according to federal court data.
@mandown: Care to address the flat tax fallacy?
Trump signs USMCA, paving way for job market boom
The USMCA, which is the biggest trade deal of all-time, covers more than $1.3 trillion of commerce.
www.foxbusiness.com
But if it’s anti Trump yetstill correct because it is actually bad, how will you know? By the same logic, all pro Trump sources will universally praise it, regardless of it is good or bad.of course CNN won’t say anything positive about the deal, how can you when CNN is anti TrumpTrump signs USMCA, paving way for job market boom
The USMCA, which is the biggest trade deal of all-time, covers more than $1.3 trillion of commerce.
Time will tell if it becomes a success. In his defense, he's trying to make a difference to bring jobs back from other countries. Actually I think quite a few on the left supported the idea, not one president in recent years had the balls to go after it. The economy is cranking, unemployment is at a 50 year low, consumer confidence is high. I don't know, but something seems to be working right.
Find me some positive details. Please. I'm waiting for them still.of course CNN won’t say anything positive about the deal, how can you when CNN is anti TrumpTrump signs USMCA, paving way for job market boom
The USMCA, which is the biggest trade deal of all-time, covers more than $1.3 trillion of commerce.
BTW, NAFTA and USMCA are negligibly different:
6 key differences between NAFTA and the USMCA deal that replaces it | CNN Politics
After reaching a deal on the final version of the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement, President Donald Trump tweeted that it "will be the best and most important trade deal ever made by the USA" -- and called its predecessor, the North American Free Trade Agreement, "our Country's worst Trade...
- 75% of parts must be made in 3 countries; 40% must be made by people making >$16. 72% of car manufacturing employee in the US make <$19/hr; 41% make $15.38-$19. Not a huge raise to get those people really close up to $16... And really easy to drop that low cost production to Mexico.
- Stronger labor laws in Mexico. That's good. I'll believe it when I see it.
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Markets primarily hiring illegal immigrants (agriculture) in the US.
- Digital Age updates -
Shelters companies from liability internationally; what's the economic boost? Just reduction of liability?
- Better environmental protections for international spill-overs. Good. Only $600mm. Oh.
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Wow.
Hearsay /Brian.