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one of my great uncles was part of D-Day. he'd be spinning in his grave if he knew that there were ass clowns flying that flag on american soil
I bet, I'd beat the shit out of the fucktard!
My uncle that we buried 18 months ago too. Landed in Italy and made his way North.

My mom still lives in her parents house, that was liberated by the Allies in Normandy. So I know what you guys are saying.

But lemme ask you guys this: is this considered free speech in the US? (honest question. as far as I know there aren't hate speech laws there are there?)
 

Brian HCM#1

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My uncle that we buried 18 months ago too. Landed in Italy and made his way North.

My mom still lives in her parents house, that was liberated by the Allies in Normandy. So I know what you guys are saying.

But lemme ask you guys this: is this considered free speech in the US? (honest question. as far as I know there aren't hate speech laws there are there?)
Technically yes, that person is entitled to his opinion. He is not physically causing harm, it can be very offensive. Growing up I got in several fights being one of the only token Jews at my school. However after the 4 or 5 fights over a few year span, it finally stopped. Not because parents/school got involved it was handled a different way back then. I'll just say, I made an impact on a few people. I always found it amazing how tough some people are when their friends aren't around.
 

jonKranked

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Technically yes, that person is entitled to his opinion. He is not physically causing harm, it can be very offensive. Growing up I got in several fights being one of the only token Jews at my school. However after the 4 or 5 fights over a few year span, it finally stopped. Not because parents/school got involved it was handled a different way back then. I'll just say, I made an impact on a few people. I always found it amazing how tough some people are when their friends aren't around.
 

Brian HCM#1

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Hurricane Sandy, Hurricane Katrina, Western US and most of Australia on fire, record droughts in India, Australia, and Africa get worse annually, and melting permafrost in Asia causing methane fueled fires across Siberia.

Nothing to see here, move along...
Correct me if I'm wrong here Mark, because the last time I saw you it was at the Groovy Gravity Games at Carnegie in 2004/05ish didn't you ride a Yeti DH bike? If I remember correctly you grew up pretty comfortably from chatting with you? Parents were paying for or did pay for college. I think I remember getting a PM on RM about your graduation party. I know you said you lived in your van after college. Seems like you've risen above that, have a good paying job, own a home and multiple cars, have a wife & kids. Just kinda living the American dream, right?
 

jonKranked

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Correct me if I'm wrong here Mark, because the last time I saw you it was at the Groovy Gravity Games at Carnegie in 2004/05ish didn't you ride a Yeti DH bike? If I remember correctly you grew up pretty comfortably from chatting with you? Parents were paying for or did pay for college. I think I remember getting a PM on RM about your graduation party. I know you said you lived in your van after college. Seems like you've risen above that, have a good paying job, own a home and multiple cars, have a wife & kids. Just kinda living the American dream, right?
what, you don't recognize bootstraps when you see them?

:busted:
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
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Correct me if I'm wrong here Mark, because the last time I saw you it was at the Groovy Gravity Games at Carnegie in 2004/05ish didn't you ride a Yeti DH bike? If I remember correctly you grew up pretty comfortably from chatting with you? Parents were paying for or did pay for college. I think I remember getting a PM on RM about your graduation party. I know you said you lived in your van after college. Seems like you've risen above that, have a good paying job, own a home and multiple cars, have a wife & kids. Just kinda living the American dream, right?
Up until my dad got married to my stepmom and we had a two household income, we were not. Shortly after they got married, her mom died and they came into a large amount of money, which my dad got very lucky on the tech bubble, and reset our lives. That in large part paid for the lifestyle I grew up in. I found out about 5 years ago that my parents had to take out a second on their house to pay for my sister and I to go to college. I got into Cal on an athletic admittance - not scholarship. My stepmom was friends with a member of the 80 and 84 Olympic rowing team and referred me in. I was good, but not that good. I graduated with a 2.3 (iirc) gpa in Anthropology.

After I graduated, I lived in my truck for a while working for way less than I should have been, without healthcare. When I crashed at the bmx track in San Ramon, I spent the night at the ER with a bruised liver. $28k in medical bills later, I had no bikes, no savings, and no forward plan when I got a random email for a job interview at Morgan Stanley for a position I was not qualified for in the slightest. I Iomehow got that job, in large part, because I had a degree from Cal and was told such. I was fired a year later because I overbot a $500k trade (see not qualified).

The job at Bloomberg I was qualified for because of my last job and experiences and learned a lot there. But I was definitely not qualified for my job at the Bank. I was over my head the moment I walked in and working at my limit from day 1.

Wifey however is incredibly good at what she does and makes 2x what I do, which is in large part how we love the lifestyle we do. I've gotten incredibly lucky, all the way through my life, to end up where I'm at. Not to say I don't know what I'm doing now, because at this point I do. But getting here was about 60% luck; at least. And if you look at hiring statistics, being a 6'4", white male with a degree for a prestigious university, I will almost always get a job I interview for - and I have.
 

Brian HCM#1

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Up until my dad got married to my stepmom and we had a two household income, we were not. Shortly after they got married, her mom died and they came into a large amount of money, which my dad got very lucky on the tech bubble, and reset our lives. That in large part paid for the lifestyle I grew up in. I found out about 5 years ago that my parents had to take out a second on their house to pay for my sister and I to go to college. I got into Cal on an athletic admittance - not scholarship. My stepmom was friends with a member of the 80 and 84 Olympic rowing team and referred me in. I was good, but not that good. I graduated with a 2.3 (iirc) gpa in Anthropology.

After I graduated, I lived in my truck for a while working for way less than I should have been, without healthcare. When I crashed at the bmx track in San Ramon, I spent the night at the ER with a bruised liver. $28k in medical bills later, I had no bikes, no savings, and no forward plan when I got a random email for a job interview at Morgan Stanley for a position I was not qualified for in the slightest. I Iomehow got that job, in large part, because I had a degree from Cal and was told such. I was fired a year later because I overbot a $500k trade (see not qualified).

The job at Bloomberg I was qualified for because of my last job and experiences and learned a lot there. But I was definitely not qualified for my job at the Bank. I was over my head the moment I walked in and working at my limit from day 1.

Wifey however is incredibly good at what she does and makes 2x what I do, which is in large part how we love the lifestyle we do. I've gotten incredibly lucky, all the way through my life, to end up where I'm at. Not to say I don't know what I'm doing now, because at this point I do. But getting here was about 60% luck; at least. And if you look at hiring statistics, being a 6'4", white male with a degree for a prestigious university, I will almost always get a job I interview for - and I have.
In all sincerity that's a great story especially with an Anthropology degree. You should be very proud for what your wife & you accomplished to this date. Sometimes hard work, with a little good luck can really pay off no matter what color you are.
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
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In all sincerity that's a great story especially with an Anthropology degree. You should be very proud for what your wife & you accomplished to this date. Sometimes hard work, with a little good luck can really pay off no matter what color you are.
But a lot of luck and being white helps a lot more.
 

Brian HCM#1

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But a lot of luck and being white helps a lot more.
My neighbor across the street from me is African American, late 50's, no one in his family had a college degree, grew up in Philly. He put himself through college, first one in his family to actually go & finish. Got a job working for IBM, worked his way up the ladder, company gave him the opportunity and paid for him to get his masters. Just took a promotion last May making close to $1M a year with salary & bonuses (that's a shitload more than my wife & I make combined), he's fortunate to travel all over the world. His wife is half African American half Korean, was a Korean war baby put up for adoption, was fortunate to be adopted by an upper middle class African American family back east, but still worked hard to get her PHD. They are now renting out their house here in the SF Bay Area and bought another house in Austin TX for his new job. Yes I'm sure he had much bigger obstacles to overcome than you or I. Then again, being driven and busting your ass can pay off, just depends on how bad you want it and this is a prime example!
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
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Colorado
My neighbor across the street from me is African American, late 50's, no one in his family had a college degree, grew up in Philly. He put himself through college, first one in his family to actually go & finish. Got a job working for IBM, worked his way up the ladder, company gave him the opportunity and paid for him to get his masters. Just took a promotion last May making close to $1M a year with salary & bonuses (that's a shitload more than my wife & I make combined), he's fortunate to travel all over the world. His wife is half African American half Korean, was a Korean war baby put up for adoption, was fortunate to be adopted by an upper middle class African American family back east, but still worked hard to get her PHD. They are now renting out their house here in the SF Bay Area and bought another house in Austin TX for his new job. Yes I'm sure he had much bigger obstacles to overcome than you or I. Then again, being driven and busting your ass can pay off, just depends on how bad you want it and this is a prime example!
Welcome to the outlier. Mine is far more common than his.
 

rideit

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My neighbor across the street from me is African American, late 50's, no one in his family had a college degree, grew up in Philly. He put himself through college, first one in his family to actually go & finish. Got a job working for IBM, worked his way up the ladder, company gave him the opportunity and paid for him to get his masters. Just took a promotion last May making close to $1M a year with salary & bonuses (that's a shitload more than my wife & I make combined), he's fortunate to travel all over the world. His wife is half African American half Korean, was a Korean war baby put up for adoption, was fortunate to be adopted by an upper middle class African American family back east, but still worked hard to get her PHD. They are now renting out their house here in the SF Bay Area and bought another house in Austin TX for his new job. Yes I'm sure he had much bigger obstacles to overcome than you or I. Then again, being driven and busting your ass can pay off, just depends on how bad you want it and this is a prime example!
Yeah, I have heard this exact story millions of times.
 

Brian HCM#1

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All about race and money. A bigly sad way of placing value upon a human.
The point I was trying to make and Stoney seems to be depressed because he's white, had an opportunity at an investment company even though he did not have a degree that fit better in that field. Many years ago a company would hire just based on having a degree & not the major. I had several friends get jobs with large corporations in sales, management etc. with a Communications degree for example because 30 years ago it was one of the easiest to get. My point was, with hard work it is possible to achieve success no matter what color you are. The opportunity is out there if you want it.

I realize money is not everything & sometimes doing something you love, just allowing you to pay the bills to get by is all someone may want. If you can get up in the morning and look forward to going to work everyday & your happy? Well then, you won the lottery.