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syadasti

syadasti

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Dogboy said:
They aren't fat enough.
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And so far the GOP leads when it comes to regulating people's personal lives - the bedroom and family planning.

Nobody has bombed a soda factory yet...

Gay marriage and abortion are legal in NY so the backward hicks pointing fingers about soda portion size have nothing to stand on. Besides just look at beer laws, why aren't they in the news?

The Silly Beer Laws by U.S. State in the list below are, by no means, a complete list of laws governing beer or alcoholic beverages. They are merely a broad illustration of the range of regulations covered, from the ridiculous to the mundane.

Alabama
Cities and counties can choose to be "wet" or "dry" - 26 of 67 counties do not allow alcohol sales...A statewide ban on draft beer sales requires that cities and counties must take Legislative action to lift the ban in each jurisdiction. However, a section of the law allows draft beer "in rural communities with a predominantly foreign population. . . in accordance with the habit and customs of the people of any such rural community"...Twenty-three counties and cities have abolished the ban against Draft Beer in their districts...Likewise, Sunday alcohol sales are only allowed if a referendum has been passed...Ban on off-premises sale of alcohol on Sundays.

Alaska
In Fairbanks, AK, it is illegal to serve alcoholic beverages to moose.

Arizona
An obviously intoxicated person can only stay for 30 minutes at the establishment that recognized he was drunk.

Arkansas
Ban on off-premises sales of Alcohol on Sundays

California
It is illegal for producers of alcoholic beverages to list the names of retailers or restaurants that sell their products, whether it is in advertising or in newsletters...It is illegal to display alcoholic beverages within five feet of a cash register in a store that sells both alcohol and motor fuel...A server can be convicted of selling alcohol to a minor if the minor uses a false or altered ID to obtain the alcohol.

Colorado
It is illegal to ride a horse while under the influence...It is also illegal 1) for liquor stores to sell food and 2) for food stores to sell alcohol with an ABW greater than 3.2%. Beer with 3.2% ABW is called "low point beer." Beer with higher alcohol levels can be purchased in liquor stores...The sale of alcohol is prohibited on Election Day....Ban on off-premises sale of alcohol on Sundays.

Connecticut
Beer cannot be sold after 8 p.m...Pharmacists who use alcohol in compounding prescriptions must have a specific state license to do so.

Delaware
Allows parents, guardians, or legal age spouse to furnish alcohol to minors in the private home of any said family member for medical, religious, or educational purposes.

Florida
1965 Law requires containers to be one of four sizes: 8, 12, 24 or 32 ounces only, prohibiting craft brewers from packaging in 22 ounce "bombers", 750ml bottles, or any number of European style bottles.

Georgia
The 1935 Law prohibiting the sale of beer having more than 6% ABV was repealed in 2004…Bans off-premises sales of alcohol on Sundays.

Hawaii
Underage purchase of alcohol is prohibited except for law enforcement purposes…Underage consumption of alcohol is not explicitly prohibited.

Idaho
Possession of an unregistered, unlabeled keg is punishable by a maximum fine of $1,000 or prison for 6 months.

Illinois
A person commits a "social host offense" by renting a hotel or motel room for the purpose of or with the knowledge that such room be used for the consumption of alcoholic beverages by underage persons.

Indiana
It is illegal for liquor stores to sell milk or cold soft drinks. They can, however, sell soft drinks at room temperature….It is illegal to carry an alcoholic drink from the bar to a table - this can only be done by a waiter or waitress…Drinks "on the house" are illegal...Ban on off-premises sales of Alcohol on Sundays.

Iowa
In Ames, Iowa, it is still illegal for men to have 3 sips of beer while they are in bed with their wives...It is illegal to "run a tab" in Iowa.

Kansas
Ban on off-premises sales of Alcohol on Sundays…Underage consumption of alcohol is illegal except for cereal malt beverages (defined as any fermented but undistilled liquor brewed or made from malt or from a mixture of malt or malt substitute, but not including any such liquor which is more than 3.2 % ABW).

Kentucky
It is illegal to send a bottle of beer, wine, or spirits as a gift to anyone in Kentucky - this can result in a 5-year term in prison...Ban on off-premises sales of Alcohol on Sundays.

Louisiana
Underage possession of alcohol is illegal except when in a private residence, and furnished by a parent, guardian or legal aged spouse for one or more specified religious, educational, or medical purposes.

Maine
It is illegal to possess an unlabeled, unregistered keg - punishment is a maximum fine of $500 and/or time in prison. It is illegal to destroy the label on a keg, punishable by a maximum fine of $1,000 or 6 months in prison.

Maryland
Alcohol beverage writers must be certified as experts by a state agency in order to be eligible to receive product samples. The beverage writer can only receive three bottles per brand.

Massachusetts
In Woburn, MA, it is illegal to walk around with a beer in your hand.

Michigan
Prohibited to serve alcohol on Christmas Day, including at restaurants serving holiday buffets...Local laws exist too - one town prohibits brewpubs from selling beer-to-go...It is illegal for a minor (person under 21) to give an alcoholic beverage as a gift to anyone, even if they are of legal drinking age...It is illegal to allow restaurant diners to take an unfinished bottle of any alcoholic beverage home with them.

Minnesota
It is specifically NOT a crime to be inebriated in public...Ban on off-premises sales of Alcohol on Sundays.

Mississippi
A parent, guardian, or legal age spouse may furnish beer or wine to minors over the age of 18.

Missouri
In St. Louis, MO, it is illegal to sit on a street curb and drink beer from a bucket...It is illegal for any person under 21 to handle household trash with even one empty alcohol beverage container in it…In Natchez, MO, it is illegal to serve elephants beer or other alcoholic beverages.

Montana
It is illegal to destroy the label on a keg, punishable by a maximum fine of $500 or 6 months in prison…A parent or guardian can furnish alcohol to a minor in a non-intoxicating amount for one or more specified religious, educational, or medical purposes.

Nebraska
It is illegal for a bar to sell beer unless it is simultaneously brewing a kettle of soup...Ban on off-premises sales of Alcohol on Sundays.

Nevada
Underage consumption of alcohol is not explicitly prohibited.

New Hampshire
You cannot be served an alcoholic drink unless you are sitting down.

New Jersey
If convicted of "Driving Under the Influence" (DUI), you lose the privilege of applying for personalized license plates for a period of three years.

New Mexico
Underage consumption of alcohol is not explicitly prohibited.

New York
Underage consumption of alcohol is not explicitly prohibited.

North Carolina
"Private Club Rule" applies - to sell liquor, an establishment must also sell a set percentage in food sales, unless they are a Private Club. To join a "private club," you must fill out an application and wait three days to pick up a club card. State regulated liquor stores are not permitted to advertise.

North Dakota
Beer and pretzels cannot be served at the same time in any bar or restaurant.

Ohio
It is illegal to get a fish drunk.

Oklahoma
Beer stronger than 3.2% must be purchased in state liquor stores...Ban on off-premises sales of Alcohol on Sundays.

Oregon
Underage purchase of alcohol is prohibited except for law enforcement purposes…Underage possession of alcohol is illegal except when in a private residence, and a parent or guardian is present or consents and it is for one or more specified religious, educational, or medical purposes.

Pennsylvania
Patrons must buy a case at a beer distributor...Six-packs must be purchased at a tavern - exception is the grocery store with eat-in café who has an E license...It is illegal to be intoxicated in public...It is illegal to have a previously opened container of any alcoholic beverage in your car...Parents or guardians cannot furnish an alcoholic beverage to their child under any circumstance, including within their private residence.

Rhode Island
Ban on off-premises sales of Alcohol on Sundays.

South Carolina
Private Club Rule - It is illegal to sell alcoholic beverages on a Sunday unless you are a Private Club.

South Dakota
Underage possession of alcohol is allowed for one or more specified religious, educational, or medical purposes.

Tennessee
Ban on off-premises sales of Alcohol on Sundays.

Texas
The Encyclopedia Brittanica is banned in Texas because it contains a recipe for making homebrew...In Lefors, TX, it is illegal to take more than three sips of beer while standing...In Houston, TX, it is illegal to purchase beer after midnight on Sunday, but it is legal to purchase beer anytime on Monday, including just after midnight on Sunday...It is illegal to sell less than 100 ml of alcohol in Texas, making it illegal to sell less than 2 mini-bottles (airplane-size) in one purchase...In McKinney, TX, you can be arrested for "intent to distribute in a dry city" if you are caught with anything over a case (24 pack)...Texas also has a "Private Club Rule" allowing members to legally drink alcoholic beverages in dry counties.

Utah
3.2% ABW (4% ABV) limit on draft beer, preventing craft brewers in the state from creating a full range of beer styles...To get an alcoholic beverage at a restaurant, you must either bring your own, or you must buy a "set-up" and have them pour it...However, you can buy beer at a gas station or convenience store...Ban on off-premises sales of Alcohol on Sundays.

Vermont
It is illegal to destroy the label on a keg, punishable by a maximum fine of $1000 or a prison sentence of 2 years.

Virginia
If an intoxicated driver is stopped in Virginia Beach, VA, for Driving Under the Influence (DUI), and you are a drunk passenger, you can also be charged with a DUI.

Washington
A grocery store licensee may sell malt liquor in containers no larger than five and one-half gallons.

West Virginia
It is illegal to furnish alcohol to minors except by relatives by blood or marriage.

Wisconsin
An underage person is prohibited from knowingly possessing an alcoholic beverage unless accompanied by his or her parent, guardian or spouse who has attained the legal drinking age.

Wyoming
Underage consumption of alcohol is not explicitly prohibited…Underage purchase of alcohol is illegal except for law enforcement purposes.
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syadasti

syadasti

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dante said:
This isn't "silly", it's completely sane and rational.
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"merely a broad illustration of the range of regulations covered, from the ridiculous to the mundane."

Why haven't we heard the outrage over FL's portion laws for the last 50 years?

1965 Law requires containers to be one of four sizes: 8, 12, 24 or 32 ounces only, prohibiting craft brewers from packaging in 22 ounce "bombers", 750ml bottles, or any number of European style bottles.
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blackohio

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Hellafornia. Formerly stumptown.
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dante

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syadasti said:
Holy sh*t, in related news $1200 per capita - 3 billion dollars!

Wisconsin binge drinking exacts $6.8 billion toll

I bet that even beats soda's public healthcare costs.
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I haz a sad. :(

Delving into the numbers just a bit, it's clear that it's nowhere near as bad as our obesity epidemic.

The group, formerly Smoke-Free Wisconsin, says that problem drinking costs the state $749 million in health care costs, $649 million in criminal justice costs and a whopping $4.9 billion in lost productivity. Of the lost productivity costs, $1.2 billion results from 1,500 premature deaths a year.
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1) It's from a former anti-smoking group which has now morphed into an anti-anything-fun group.
2) Specifically for health care costs, it's only $149 per person. Obesity-related health care costs per American are ~$500 per person ($160,000,000,000 divided by 300m Americans), and doesn't include lost productivity, early deaths (from diabetes, heart disease, and so on). All told obesity costs Americans $450,000,000,000 per year, or $1,500 per person (ie, more than binge drinking).
3) Even if you include the criminal justice costs (I don't think that there are any criminal costs associated with obesity, although maybe there should be?), it's still below the health care costs that obesity imposes on us....

So... Drink beer, not soda! :cheers:

 
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dan-o

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Too bad WI is full of obese, binge drinkers so its not an either/or situation.

 
dante

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dan-o

dan-o

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dante said:
Depends on where in the state you are. Here in Dane County we're below the national average in adult obesity, adult inactivity and yet are still at 4x the rate of binge drinking.
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Madison is certainly better than most of the state but I think the college demographic skews those figures a bit. A visit to the Brat Stop is a true slice of WI.
 
dante

dante

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All of Dane Co is ~500,000, and the university only accounts for ~40k of that. Madison itself is crazy active, though, our running series usually draws thousands of people, and the most popular ones draw 10-12k+. We're usually in the top 10 in the country for bike commuting, with 6% of people commuting by bike (so like ~7,500 commuting by bike each day).

And while brats are good, our beer is far better. New taproom/building for Ale Asylum, which had been in a warehouse park previously (and is 6 miles from my house, all of it on bike paths or bike lanes).

 
Beef Supreme

Beef Supreme

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dante said:
All of Dane Co is ~500,000, and the university only accounts for ~40k of that. Madison itself is crazy active, though, our running series usually draws thousands of people, and the most popular ones draw 10-12k+. We're usually in the top 10 in the country for bike commuting, with 6% of people commuting by bike (so like ~7,500 commuting by bike each day).

And while brats are good, our beer is far better. New taproom/building for Ale Asylum, which had been in a warehouse park previously (and is 6 miles from my house, all of it on bike paths or bike lanes).

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It's still kind of a self selecting population. Go to an event in SE Portland and maybe 25% of the people are overweight. Go to a Costco in the burbs and that is reversed.
 
syadasti

syadasti

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America, land of the free unless moneyed private foreign interests want your land in which case they can steal your land like just any other corrupt third world nation regardless the of lack of valid eminent domain public use.

Texas, Cameroon, its not your land. This vet fought for rights he and his neighbors don't have...

Mike Bishop explains why he is flying his American Flag upside down. One should fly the American flag upside down when in distress of extreme danger to life or property. Mike's stance is his property is in distress. A foreign corporation has invaded it - TransCanada. Mike Bishop is one of the landowners battling TransCanada and the Keystone XL pipeline. His fight is far from over. Here is the offical code US Code:T36 Ch10.176 (a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.
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