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Rapid Rise?

Feb 20, 2004
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Oklahoma
Who here uses rapid rise for there rear derailleur? and why is it called a rear mech?

It is about time for a replacement on the DH bike and I was wondering about the benefits?
 

Kornphlake

Turbo Monkey
Oct 8, 2002
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Portland, OR
Booo, hisss I don't use rapid rise because everybody here told me it was going to suck, that and I haven't had the money to make the switch. When I do have money I'll have to get a sram drivetrain because everybody here says it's better.

A derailleur is called a mech because it's easier to spell and it sounds a little english.
 
Feb 20, 2004
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Oklahoma
please tell me you are being sarcastic? I am merely seeking the opinions of those with experience with RR. I may still NOT get it if everyone says its the shizzle. :D

I have thought about sram twist shifters and Rapid Rise As I came into a corner riddled with braking bumps and was trying to shift to a lower gear to power out of the corner. moving the thumb to the shifter reduced my grip etc...


Does anyone run that setup?
 

dump

Turbo Monkey
Oct 12, 2001
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i always liked rapid rise... at least the old(er) school xtr + trigger shifter versions... I just preferred the "easier to downshift" functionality...

but dont' listen to me, I don't even have a bike anymore.
 

Matt D

Monkey
Mar 19, 2002
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charlottesville, va
mech is short for mechanism, the way they say it on the other side of the pond.

I had a RR der. on my xc bike. It worked okay until it got the slighest little bend in it and I could never get the shifting to work proper again. I've used much more badly bent Shim. der.s w/o RR that worked fine.

I've been riding SRAM triggers XC & DH this season and love it!
 
Feb 14, 2004
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SoCal
I have rr since the bike shop messed up thier order... It takes some getting used to. Just stick to normal der. there really isn't too much advantage to rr.
 

Dartman

Old Bastard Mike
Feb 26, 2003
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Richmond, VA
Frankenschwinn said:
Who here uses rapid rise for there rear derailleur? and why is it called a rear mech?

It is about time for a replacement on the DH bike and I was wondering about the benefits?
I use RR on all my bikes. (too damn confusing if you don't) For DH it makes for quick shifting into high gear out of the start gate. The downside is it makes it hard to dump a bunch of gears quickly if you get bogged down on-course and have to pedal.

It's called 'rear mech' (short for 'mechanism') because 'derailleur' is too hard to spell and 'mech' is less French sounding.

Mike
 
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JRB

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I like XTR RR way better on my XC bikes than the X9 X0 on my Dean. Nice shifts.
 

scofflaw23

Monkey
Mar 13, 2002
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Raleigh
I have nothing personal against RR, just that I can't reverse the 10+ years of high normal shifting in my mind. I've got it on my current bike (Rocky Switch Pro w/Saint) and I just can get it through my head. Next year I'll be back to regular for sure. Anyone else notice that for 2005 Specialized, they're not only using primarily not RR rear mechs., but they also are spec'ing some new Rapid Fire shifters (new model #'s and everything). Rapid Fire lives! Don't fix what isn't broken!
 

Cave Dweller

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May 6, 2003
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Frankenschwinn said:
I have thought about sram twist shifters and Rapid Rise As I came into a corner riddled with braking bumps and was trying to shift to a lower gear to power out of the corner. moving the thumb to the shifter reduced my grip etc...


Does anyone run that setup?
Use the sram attack trigger shifters and shift up and down with your thumb.

Rapid rise sucks. Death to rapid rise!!
 

Kornphlake

Turbo Monkey
Oct 8, 2002
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Portland, OR
Frankenschwinn said:
please tell me you are being sarcastic? I am merely seeking the opinions of those with experience with RR. I may still NOT get it if everyone says its the shizzle. :D

I have thought about sram twist shifters and Rapid Rise As I came into a corner riddled with braking bumps and was trying to shift to a lower gear to power out of the corner. moving the thumb to the shifter reduced my grip etc...


Does anyone run that setup?
There was a hint of sarcasm in that post, seriously though I am cheezed off about shimano's price gouging on low normal XT derailurs just because they think everybody should upgrade the most expensive parts of their drivetrain just to use the newest product that had no demand and has no functional advantage. I'd seriously go full sram but I can't afford a complete sram kit anymore than I can afford an XT derailur. For now I'm using a cheap deore rear mech and LX shifters.

As far as being able to grip because my thumb is reaching for a shifter is something I've never experienced. If I need to be holding on that tight, it's pretty sure I'm not pedalling. I've been known to reach my thumb around to the front of the shifter to down shift when my index finger is on the brake though.
 

RaID

Turbo Monkey
i dont see the point of it

youre more likely to need to change 3 gears at once up
then 3 gears at once up

definately not a fan of it, i tried it, works fine just i think original shifting direction makes more sense
 

DH Dad

Monkey
Jun 12, 2002
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MA
I use RR on all my bikes but understand the preference thing since I have to run the old standard on my wife's bikes but they're getting harder to get.

I've got an XTR from 2001 in my RFX that's withstood 4 seasons of hard riding and DH. Been through 5 hangers and still shifts perfectly. Just changed the cables the other night and added a Rollamajig and works like new again. I also have the new XT, Low-Normal, on my DHR and it too works well although it's dented easily and both times have required some pliers to bend material out of the way of the shifting path. Never had that problem with the old XTR ones though.

BTW, I'm still running XTR 8 spd cassettes an XT shifters on all my bikes too. Just works well and as long as I keep changing my chains my XTR cassettes may last forever.
 
Feb 20, 2004
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Oklahoma
It is all as I suspected. I was having a moment of weakness and needed validation :D

Kornphlake, I did catch the sarcasm. :)

Thanks for all of the info
 
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JRB

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xc skier said:
If you use rapid fire shifter and want to shift up and down with your thumb, it's possible...

Yes it is. I like that too.