[slimshady]

So less than two weeks ago we got the notice James Doerfling was bailing out of the Rampage, with Bas Van Steenbergen stepping in.

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/james-doerfling-out-of-red-bull-rampage-bas-van-steenbergen-in.html

Now Aggy drops it too:


https://www.pinkbike.com/news/graham-agassiz-pulls-out-of-red-bull-rampage-2017.html

Guys are arriving to it after a long, hard year. Seems like it's too late in the season to have contenders in optimal shape.

 

[marshalolson]

i heard its too bike-parky now

 

[Electric_City]

So....

They're down 1 rider?

 

[slimshady]

Betteridge's theorem of headlines applies here, I'm not going to deny it. I guess I just felt sad two guys I like to see competing were off this year

 

[Jm_]

Young people are stupid, I'm sure they'll find some more. Sign up for college loans, participate in red bull, etc...

 

[norbar]

So less than two weeks ago we got the notice James Doerfling was bailing out of the Rampage, with Bas Van Steenbergen stepping in.

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/james-doerfling-out-of-red-bull-rampage-bas-van-steenbergen-in.html

Now Aggy drops it too:


https://www.pinkbike.com/news/graham-agassiz-pulls-out-of-red-bull-rampage-2017.html

Guys are arriving to it after a long, hard year. Seems like it's too late in the season to have contenders in optimal shape.

If it was earlier in the year you would have less people competing. The heat would be a problem but most guys on the FMB circuit and DH racers would not risk injury mid season

 

[schwaaa31]

Doh.

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/remy-metailler-denied-us-entry-wont-be-at-rampage.html

 

[canadmos]

Doh.

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/remy-metailler-denied-us-entry-wont-be-at-rampage.html

And check out Yoann's post. It sounds like Remy is going to try to skirt around his denial. Probably not the smartest of things to do....

 

[jstuhlman]

THANKS O'TRUMPA

 

[heavy metal]

Jump the wall!

 

[rideit]

And why, exactly, can't foreign athletes earn money competing in the US? I honestly don't get it.

 

[Westy]

And why, exactly, can't foreign athletes earn money competing in the US? I honestly don't get it.

This is what makes america great

 

[Jm_]

This is what makes america great

again

 

[sethimus]

soon: the isolated states of america

 

[norbar]

soon: the isolated states of america

Are you suggesting someone is learning from history since the years of pre XX century isolationism worked well for the US. Not that it work now so that suggests they are pretty bad at coming to resonable conclusions from the data they know

 

[Sandro]

Sucks, but it's hardly the fault of the current nut job administration that he needs a visa in order to compete. I don't expect his plan of just flying in will work out too well, last time I checked they had computers and the internet at immigration. Plus, US immigration and customs are some of the biggest dickbags on the planet, surprisingly closely followed by Canadians.

 

[schwaaa31]

Sucks, but it's hardly the fault of the current nut job administration that he needs a visa in order to compete. I don't expect his plan of just flying in will work out too well, last time I checked they had computers and the internet at immigration. Plus, US immigration and customs are some of the biggest dickbags on the planet, surprisingly closely followed by Canadians.

It didn’t work according to Barellis comments on Pinkbike. Good chance he’ll never get back in now after being denied twice. And yeah, the few times I’ve crossed into Canada, I was surprised the level of douche bagness from customs.

 

[StiHacka]

And why, exactly, can't foreign athletes earn money competing in the US? I honestly don't get it.

They can, with the correct visa.

 

[sethimus]

Are you suggesting someone is learning from history since the years of pre XX century isolationism worked well for the US. Not that it work now so that suggests they are pretty bad at coming to resonable conclusions from the data they know

data!? who got time to look at boring numbers?

 

[slimshady]

data!? who got time to look at boring numbers?

IBM probably has an IA developed for that matter. And it probably draws wrong conclusions out of that data.

 

[sethimus]

ibm? quite fitting, they surley know how to serve fascist regimes

 

[norbar]

data!? who got time to look at boring numbers?

Unless it's a football fantasy league

 

[sethimus]

Unless it's an american football fantasy league

fyp

 

[jonKranked]

They can, with the correct visa.

and figuring out which kind you need is kind of a game of whack a mole.

 

[StiHacka]

and figuring out which kind you need is kind of a game of whack a mole.

It isn't. What is confusing is that the application and enforcement of laws and regulations is generally creative in the US, depending on what the heads of the agencies feel like doing at the moment. Kinda feels like a lawless system with arbitrary decisions du jour.

 

[jonKranked]

It isn't. What is confusing is that the application and enforcement of laws and regulations is generally creative in the US, depending on what the heads of the agencies feel like doing at the moment. Kinda feels like a lawless system with arbitrary decisions du jour.

so like a game of whack a mole.

 

[Westy]

I have gone and worked for short periods of time in a handful of foreign countries under the idea that I was providing training or troubleshooting services of products purchased. We have hoards of people working here for projects under the same concept. If this isn't a legal practice it is news to me. If this is no longer allowable it will drive up costs for manufacturing infrastructure and drastically favor larger international corporations that have a strong local presence in all international markets.

 

[StiHacka]

I have gone and worked for short periods of time in a handful of foreign countries under the idea that I was providing training or troubleshooting services of products purchased. We have hoards of people working here for projects under the same concept. If this isn't a legal practice it is news to me. If this is no longer allowable it will drive up costs for manufacturing infrastructure and drastically favor larger international corporations that have a strong local presence in all international markets.

It is a bit different for performers and for workers on a business trip.
OTOH, a former colleague of mine got rejected at the US border and escorted back in a plane to EU for mentioning that he is going to participate in an internal training at the US office. That happened deep in Obama's presidency so these issues are nothing new.

 

[Westy]

It is a bit different for performers and for workers on a business trip.
OTOH, a former colleague of mine got rejected at the US border and escorted back in a plane to EU for mentioning that he is going to participate in an internal training at the US office. That happened deep in Obama's presidency so these issues are nothing new.

When I was working in Japan I would just mention "Mitsubishi" and would get grand smiles and welcoming nods from customs.

When I went to England I simply stated that I was an American and got welcomed into the country with no explanation while some darker skinned passengers from the Caribbean got grilled about their business interests within the country.

 

[jonKranked]

i'm surprised RB hasn't stepped in to assist, given how big they are and their deep pockets

 

[Westy]

i'm surprised RB hasn't stepped in to assist, given how big they are and their deep pockets

By stepping in, do you mean making large campaign contributions?

 

[jonKranked]

By stepping in, do you mean making large campaign contributions?

i dont know, make some calls, pull some strings, maybe just freight ship him in a cargo container?

 

[Westy]

i dont know, make some calls, pull some strings, maybe just freight ship him in a cargo container?

A big enough donation and the CEO of redbull could be the head of the FDA, Homeland Security or whatever the hell they wanted.

 

[slimshady]

i dont know, make some calls, pull some strings, maybe just freight ship him in a cargo container?

Drumpf's commuting budget is big enough to aerotaxi him straight to Utah. Or maybe he could slide under that orange toupé.

 

[shirk007]

I have gone and worked for short periods of time in a handful of foreign countries under the idea that I was providing training or troubleshooting services of products purchased. We have hoards of people working here for projects under the same concept. If this isn't a legal practice it is news to me. If this is no longer allowable it will drive up costs for manufacturing infrastructure and drastically favor larger international corporations that have a strong local presence in all international markets.

Sorry but if you're a non american and you roll up to the US border and say you're doing anything work related and you don't have a visa you'll get bounced. You're allowed to attend meetings, but if you phrase anything in the terms of work and you're not getting in. Had many co-workers make that mistake that it was well versed around the plant that when you get asked it's "just meetings".

 

['size]

another one out.
https://m.pinkbike.com/news/graphic-brendan-fairclough-out-of-redbull-rampage-r-dog-in.html

 

[aaronjb]

I understand the visa issues but why'd they have to do that to Brendog? Couldn't they have just put him on a flight back instead of hacking his leg up?

 

[aaronjb]

Also, I work in a field that's saturated with "big data" and "predictive analytics" pitches, so if we could keep that crap off a biking forum that would be great. That stokes an irrational anger in me and I'm not used to having to drink this early in the morning.

 

[slimshady]

Also, I work in a field that's saturated with "big data" and "predictive analytics" pitches, so if we could keep that crap off a biking forum that would be great. That stokes an irrational anger in me and I'm not used to having to drink this early in the morning.

I hear you! I'm in the same boat. Sorry for bringing the crap to one of our few resting places.

 

[slimshady]

A big enough donation and the CEO of redbull could be the head of the FDA, Homeland Security or whatever the hell they wanted.