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Re-greasing Hadley hub

Bacardi

Bacardi

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Aug 16, 2002
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I had my hub serviced weeks ago: cleaned and re-greased (I guess regular grease)

It is definitely slower. Do you Hadley fans send it in to hadley for their special lube or is there a lighter grease / lube that will make the hub spin faster again?
 
DHS

DHS

Friendly Neighborhood Pool Boy
Apr 23, 2002
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you MUST run hadley grease. its almost an oil, nothing else can be put in there.
 
kidwoo

kidwoo

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Mine never seems to seal up properly with the lubricating oil. It was always leaking out and I had to re-lube it at an annoying frequency. I finally just started using slick honey and it's been fine for a full season. Quieter too. Just make sure to clean it out every once in a while.

I'm sure it's spawned satan by now and he will soon bring on the rapture leading to a prolonged period of rule by the dark overlord.....all because I didn't follow hadley's specific directions. So if that happens, sorry bout that.
 
profro

profro

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Feb 25, 2002
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DHS said:
you MUST run hadley grease. its almost an oil, nothing else can be put in there.
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:think:

I have been servicing my Hadleys for 3 years with a super light Campy ball bearing grease. I put a very, VERY light coat all over everything, then reassemble. Seems to have been holding up well in the wet east coast. The only Hadley problem I had was a seized needle bearing set at lastyear's Snowshoe and that was on a brand new Hadley hub that was less than two months old.
 
zedro

zedro

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Sep 14, 2001
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DHS said:
you MUST run hadley grease. its almost an oil, nothing else can be put in there.
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lol, your kidding right? its just bearings, pawls and teeth, not black voodoo magic that needs specially formulated magic fairy oil for it to work.

Heavier oils/very light grease work best because they wont accumulate grime like grease but wont breakdown and bleedoff too early like light oils. I use synthetic chain oil.

And any newly lubed hub will feel slower no matter what.
 
DHS

DHS

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Apr 23, 2002
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not kidding. call hadley up. besides their new stuff never leaks out. its much nicer then anythign else that i have tried to use...
 
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shock

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Feb 20, 2002
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Hadley will tell you that you can use just about any light, quality oil. It may not be their "optimum", but it will work fine. If you use grease, it can make the pawls stick and gum up, and the freehub won't work. 30 motor oil will work in a pinch.
 
zedro

zedro

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shock said:
Hadley will tell you that you can use just about any light, quality oil. It may not be their "optimum", but it will work fine. If you use grease, it can make the pawls stick and gum up, and the freehub won't work. 30 motor oil will work in a pinch.
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NOOOOOOOOO!!! YOU MUST ONLY USE SPECIAL HADLEY OIL OR THE UNIVERSE WILL IMPLODE!!!
 
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shock

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Feb 20, 2002
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zedro said:
NOOOOOOOOO!!! YOU MUST ONLY USE SPECIAL HADLEY OIL OR THE UNIVERSE WILL IMPLODE!!!
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Damn it zedro, can't I hatch an evil plot to destroy the universe, or at least ruin everyone's hub so I can sell more, without your constant meddling, you're like batman to my joker, (wait that sounds a little perverse.....)
 
Fury

Fury

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Oct 9, 2002
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Are there special instructions for regreasing a hadley hub? I have all the tools and I'm a bit scared. I took it apart already, cleaned it all up, applied their "anti-universe implosion" grease and put it all back together. I didn't even have any "extra parts" left over after I put it back together. :D

It spins but it's slow (not mounted to rims yet) is that normal or did I put too much grease in it?
 
zedro

zedro

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Sep 14, 2001
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Fury said:
It spins but it's slow (not mounted to rims yet) is that normal or did I put too much grease in it?
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as long as it doesnt wind up your chain you'll be fine. Excess greese will work its way out. It probably only seems slow because it was bone dry before.
 
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shock

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Feb 20, 2002
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zedro said:
gay dog? what the hell does that mean? are you in love with me?
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I think all dogs are gay, at least they act like it when they're sniffin each others butt or lickin each others balls. On the otherhand, I watch Family Guy, and I'm pretty sure Brian (the dog) is not gay....
 
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Feb 20, 2002
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Fury said:
Are there special instructions for regreasing a hadley hub? I have all the tools and I'm a bit scared. I took it apart already, cleaned it all up, applied their "anti-universe implosion" grease and put it all back together. I didn't even have any "extra parts" left over after I put it back together. :D

It spins but it's slow (not mounted to rims yet) is that normal or did I put too much grease in it?
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Here's a special instruction (seriously, really). If your free hub locks up when you tighten the end caps, that means that the loose spacer inside the freehub body is in backwards. It's almost impossible to tell which way is backwards by looking at it, but it will absolutely lock the hub up.

I've seen top team mechanics (sorry, no names) put it in backwards, not know what was happening, and they ran the axle "loose" to keep the free hub from locking up.

Other than that, it's pretty hard to screw up, but if you don't TIGHTEN the end caps, they will unscrew as you're riding....
 
Bacardi

Bacardi

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Aug 16, 2002
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Santa Barbara, CA
thanks for the grease & oil tips. Blame Lil Dave and the shop he was working at for putting standard grease in. I though a High-end roadie shop would have light grease.

Its fun to come here and watch everyone bitch though...thanks, you freaks.

:monkey:
 
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Feb 20, 2002
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Bacardi said:
thanks for the grease & oil tips. Blame Lil Dave and the shop he was working at for putting standard grease in. I though a High-end roadie shop would have light grease.

Its fun to come here and watch everyone bitch though...thanks, you freaks.

:monkey:
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freaks, huh. I resemble that remark.....
 
zane

zane

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Mar 29, 2004
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How often do you all re-lube your hadley hubs? I have a brand spankin new one that has yet to be ridden- is the intial hadley lube fine or should I tear it down before I ride it?
 
kidwoo

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zane said:
How often do you all re-lube your hadley hubs? I have a brand spankin new one that has yet to be ridden- is the intial hadley lube fine or should I tear it down before I ride it?
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You should be fine right out of the box. I just took mine apart pretty frequently at first because it was obvious the oil was seeping. I wanted to see if I could get it to close up properly. After doing it a few times, that's when I went with grease. I've only had it apart and cleaned it once since then though. Satan may be building his army.
 
buildyourown

buildyourown

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Feb 9, 2004
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shock said:
Here's a special instruction (seriously, really). If your free hub locks up when you tighten the end caps, that means that the loose spacer inside the freehub body is in backwards. It's almost impossible to tell which way is backwards by looking at it, but it will absolutely lock the hub up.

I've seen top team mechanics (sorry, no names) put it in backwards, not know what was happening, and they ran the axle "loose" to keep the free hub from locking up.

Other than that, it's pretty hard to screw up, but if you don't TIGHTEN the end caps, they will unscrew as you're riding....
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NO ****!!!
Thanks for that. Really. I had a friends bike over here and we couldn't figure out for our lives why his hub would lock up. I think he ran it loose for 2 seasons. I shall tell him this revelation and all will be right with the world...
 
Fury

Fury

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Oct 9, 2002
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Toronto, Canada
Well, after taking the hub apart for the 4th time I finally figured out what was causing it to spin so slowly. It was binding on the rubber seal that goes around the pawls. 4 Times.. 4 times I didn't notice that.. It spins beautifully now.
 
Fury

Fury

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Oct 9, 2002
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Toronto, Canada
Question: I got the Hadley tools but when I got them they were out of the snap ring plier tools to take the bearing cover thingies off. Do you guys know of a brand (Mastercraft, etc.) that will work for these? Am I best off just getting the Hadley ones as they're probably now in stock?
 
Dartman

Dartman

Old Bastard Mike
Feb 26, 2003
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Dammit Zedro...I hate it when beer shoots out my nose!!!

You can get the tools from Erik Balle at http://www.balleracing.com . They're relatively cheap considering the specialty nature of them.

You can also get by with Park cone wrenches and pin spanners but the Hadleys make the work easy.

Mike
 
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