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Remember the "heroic" double amputee that climbed everest?

valve bouncer

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sanjuro said:
I guess so. I think they should have tried to help the other guy. Everyone else doesnt.
I was actually giving you a hard time as I'd posted an article the same as yours just before. I sort of thought that it was sad how that guy had been left to die there (the British guy) but was reluctant to judge those at the top of the world for their actions. The story of the Australian guy was especially poignant given what had gone before.
 

Serial Midget

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Yes but... modern equipment and training techniques have lowered the bar. He was the one who made the possibility reality. In his day Sir Hillary stood taller than any of his peers. :)


Echo said:
He was the first, but it's not like someone else wouldn't have done it if he didn't.

Maybe he's jealous that his main accomplishment in life, his claim to fame, the feat that sets him above 99.9% of humanity in his mind, has been matched by someone with no legs?
 

sanjuro

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Man gives up Everest climb for rescue

By BINAJ GURUBACHARYA, Associated Press Writer1 hour, 19 minutes ago

Just days after a British climber was left to die near Mount Everest's summit, an American guide abandoned his second bid to stand on top of the world so he could rescue a mountaineer mistakenly given up for dead.

Not only did Daniel Mazur not scale the world's highest peak from the northern side, he also failed to get his two paying clients to the top.

"It was very disappointing for me to miss my chance at the summit, but even more that I could not get my job done," Mazur, of Olympia, Wash., told The Associated Press upon returning to Nepal's capital, Katmandu, on Thursday.

Mazur, his two clients and a Sherpa guide were just two hours from the 29,035-foot peak on the morning of May 26 when they came across 50-year-old Lincoln Hall, who was left a day earlier when his own guides believed he was dead.

"I was shocked to see a guy without gloves, hat, oxygen bottles or sleeping bag at sunrise at 28,200 feet height, just sitting up there," said Mazur, who scaled Everest once before, from the southern side, in 1991.

Mazur said Hall's first words to him were: "I imagine you are surprised to see me here."

Mazur said he knew Hall was OK because he was not crying for help and still had a sense of humor.

Mazur's team spent the next four hours pulling Hall away from the slopes, giving him bottled oxygen, food and liquids.

They also radioed the base camp to tell Hall's surprised team he was still alive.

While Mazur's team was busy assisting Hall, two Italian climbers walked past them toward the summit. When asked to help, they claimed they did not understand English. On his return to base camp, Mazur discovered they did.

"I don't know why they didn't want to stop to help," Mazur said. "I hope when I am there, in that state, and someone passes me ... I hope it is someone like me."

Hall's rescue came just days after David Sharp, 34, died May 15, about 1,000 feet into his descent from the summit. Dozens of people walked right past him, unwilling to risk their own ascents.

By the time some Sherpas showed up to help get Hall back to base camp, Mazur, his clients and his own Sherpa were too exhausted to attempt the peak. They had no choice but to return without completing their climb.

"We all looked at the summit and then returned," he said. "We all agreed there was no choice."

But Mazur had no regrets.

"Oh yeah, it was worth it," he said. "You can always go back to the summit but you only have one life to live. If we had left the man to die, that would have always been on my mind ... How could you live with yourself?"
 

dhbuilder

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I read about this today too. The dead guy's wife isn't upset at any of nearly 40 climbers that passed him by. All part of the deal it seems. Cruel sport.
did anyone see a show on awhile back titled "the dark side of everest"
it talked about the heartless people who climb that mt. that turn a blind eye to that very thing.

cruel sport indeed.
 

sanjuro

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dhbuilder said:
did anyone see a show on awhile back titled "the dark side of everest"
it talked about the heartless people who climb that mt. that turn a blind eye to that very thing.

cruel sport indeed.
I don't care if these guys help each other or let them die. But the point of this thread is who is "heroic", and the question should be "what will you do to achieve your goal".
 

DaveW

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sanjuro said:
I don't care if these guys help each other or let them die. But the point of this thread is who is "heroic", and the question should be "what will you do to achieve your goal".

If you would stoop to manslaughter to achive your own goals you need some serrious psych help. :help: