Remind me why union workers are not useless
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fck
they make more than I do
I want to go fill potholes
they make more than I do
I want to go fill potholes
I do NOT like unions. These union guys i worked with at the airport fueling planes,etc were lazy.
I did sooo much more work & when i didn't want to join thier stupid union & pay the stupid dues they said "YOUR ON YOUR OWN" & then i did even more work on purpose to show them they were fat sacs of lazyness.One guy was there since 1970 & moved as slow as molasses & couln't fuel the airlines cause he weighed 300# & the weight limit on the ladder was 260#.He pretty much needed to go home.But NO the union protects !
I'm just against unions after that experience. Unions do not reward hard work is the bottom line.
** Does JAPAN have unions in thier car manufacturing facilities ?Just curious if they do or not ?
I did sooo much more work & when i didn't want to join thier stupid union & pay the stupid dues they said "YOUR ON YOUR OWN" & then i did even more work on purpose to show them they were fat sacs of lazyness.One guy was there since 1970 & moved as slow as molasses & couln't fuel the airlines cause he weighed 300# & the weight limit on the ladder was 260#.He pretty much needed to go home.But NO the union protects !
I'm just against unions after that experience. Unions do not reward hard work is the bottom line.
** Does JAPAN have unions in thier car manufacturing facilities ?Just curious if they do or not ?
Surveillance caught 10 Montreal city workers goofing around for 81 of the 90 hours they were supposed to be filling potholes.
Staff instructed by a Montreal city official to observe the group said the union employees managed to fill just 10 potholes in the 90 hours they were watched.
The rest of the time, employees hung around in restaurants, doing their banking and driving around -- all on city time.
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So they get deciplinary action.Come on they need to get real workers in there..Makes we want to keep a SUV though with bigger tires than a car..
How do these Fast n Furious vehicles manage with those ultra-low profile tires anyways ?
Staff instructed by a Montreal city official to observe the group said the union employees managed to fill just 10 potholes in the 90 hours they were watched.
The rest of the time, employees hung around in restaurants, doing their banking and driving around -- all on city time.
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So they get deciplinary action.Come on they need to get real workers in there..Makes we want to keep a SUV though with bigger tires than a car..
How do these Fast n Furious vehicles manage with those ultra-low profile tires anyways ?
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002825298_boeing24.html
AHAHAHAAHA.....in related news, suck on THAT, IAM!!
AHAHAHAAHA.....in related news, suck on THAT, IAM!!
I think that because now we have legislation to protect workers, the unions have pretty much outlived their usefulness. The market dictates the wages (here in the south) just fine.
I recently read that $1500 of the (average) price of a new GM vehicle goes DIRECTLY just to pay for the workers, healthcare! That is crazy, and doesnt even count the rest of the benefits they get. No freaking wonder they cant compete with the foreign auto makers. Unions are killing some industries and hurting the US economy.
I recently read that $1500 of the (average) price of a new GM vehicle goes DIRECTLY just to pay for the workers, healthcare! That is crazy, and doesnt even count the rest of the benefits they get. No freaking wonder they cant compete with the foreign auto makers. Unions are killing some industries and hurting the US economy.
Japan has a history of actually protecting their workers while western companies try to get every penny from them. The Japanese company I work with has never laid person off, ever. When they got fancy machines to wash the factory floors they sent the Janitors to school to become engineers. Not defending the Unions just saying the comparison to a Japanese company doesn't really work.bigdrop05 said:
BurlyShirley said:
For the most part I think all of us can probably have benefitted from the work that Unions have played. But their time has past, at least in their current configuration. If there is any hope for Unions in the future they need to stop just fighting with companies for more money and benefits and start working with companies reduce the cost of labour, providing their members more job security. Doing things like possibly taking on the healthcare costs themselves, working to reduce healthcare costs by contracting with local hospitals and even having their members sign contracts promising not to sue for malpractice.
I think what this clearly illustrates is that the average American blue-collar worker is so dumb that they need union protection in order to stay off welfare.Westy said:
The other side of that is that there's literally tons of dead wood in a lot of Japanese companies. While they may not outright fire your arse they'll do things like give you an office with a table and a chair and nothing else. You have to sit at that desk day after day doing nothing at all. Of course it's all designed to get you to quit. I'm not making this crap up. A lot of Japanese companies do all sorts of evil sh*t to their workers Westy. Not to say though that you're company isn't good mate, just that a lot aren't.Westy said:
You are wrong, they are too drunk. And aren't we talking about Cananadianans here? Canadianan Union members are one step down from US Unions. US Union workers are highly motivated and participate in extra curicular activities such as organized crime while their Cnaadian brethren just chainsmoke and drink Lablatts.fluff said:
By "dumb" do you mean genetically or in a non-educated sense?fluff said:
Not that it matters because in much of the US, there arent any Unions, like in my state, and the blue collar workers arent on welfare. I guess you're just resentful of their pretty teeth.
I know it isn't good, I wouldn't work over there. Workers in the plant over there have to live in company dorms during the week and vacation only comes during Golden Week. A bunch of little commie bastards they are.valve bouncer said:
You know who could use a union tho, or the govt. to step in and shake **** up? Wal Mart. It pisses me off that they're the nations largest employer, yet something like 60% of their workers are on some form of govt. assistance.
Actually you'd probably be all right if you worked in Japan. A lot of Japanese companies don't dare treat their foreign workers* as badly as they treat their Japanese ones because they know that the foreign workers by and large won't put up with too much sh*t. the Japanese workers tend to just grin and bear it. Being stoic for no purpose is a virtue in Japan.Westy said:
*As long as said worker isn't from a 3rd world country- then they get shafted good and proper.
Plus they have much bigger penises.valve bouncer said:
Sorry to hear about that mate. I figured they'd treat you fairly well.valve bouncer said:
Ouch...bastardWesty said:
Both.BurlyShirley said:
Didn't the Billy-Bob teeth originate in the US? Would you rather be pretty than smart?
Id rather my woman be.fluff said:
But anyway, your point still doesnt hold up because, as I said, much of the country is non-unionized. As for Americans being dumb or whatever, its not like it takes smarts to do construction or something. Its a wierd thing tho. My dad didnt graduate high school, but he could build a house completely by himself, build a working vehicle from a pile of parts, weld, do masonry work, electrical work, manages the construction side of a good sized company and at 50, could still knock you out with one punch. Id rather be whatever that is than, "smart"
I interviewed for a management job at GM back in the mid 90's and the entire interview was about how you can motivate employees who have no motivation.
GM suX0Rz
GM suX0Rz
So what is the IQ of the average American then?BurlyShirley said:
I have no idea.fluff said:
I would like to see such a breakdown tho.
In theory it should be 100..BurlyShirley said:
By definition average IQ=100.fluff said:
That's why it was a trick question...Westy said:
\fluff said:
You Brits are just too damn tricky. I'm just glad we nuked you after Pearl Harbor.
Apparently Im a touch below average.fluff said:
It saves on street lighting when everything glows in the dark. Around here every mushroom cloud has a blue lining.Westy said:
I just did this here yahoo image search for "British Teeth"fluff said:
Ick!
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?ei=UTF-8&fr=slv1-&p=british teeth
I was hoping the radiation would give pasty looking brit chicks some kind of skin tone. Doesn't seem to work that way though.fluff said:
Like Kiera Knightly? Or Michael Douglas's bird? Or Gwyneth Paltrow?Westy said:
Even a gravel mine will spit out a few crystals.fluff said:
Dunno Shirley, American teeth often seem un-naturally perfect to me. I find it unnerving, like something out of the Stepford Wives.BurlyShirley said:
Yeah, and fake boobs are "too nice" right? Im not saying perfect naturals arent better, but c'mon, some of those brits could eat an apple through a chain link fence.valve bouncer said:
One of these days I need to go Island hopping to see the family and see if I can check out the brit chicks first hand. So what would work best, turning on a Brit accent, reglar 'mercan accent or maybe a bit of a southern drawl?fluff said:
Actually mate the Poms are better than the Japanese in the dental department. Here is the only country where I've seen choppers growing at 45 degree angles.BurlyShirley said:
Fair enough Shirl, but I feel no responsibility for the dental hygiene of my countrymen. I can even accept some of them being below average smarts too.BurlyShirley said:
Having experienced Jap Breath a few times I can only imagine. A cross between an ashtray and a dead eel.valve bouncer said:
Oh man! You are right about that too. When I was living in Hawaii, lots of Japanese people came there to visit and wow! I thought maybe 'the bomb' had caused it or something. Look like on some of them their tongue was in jail.valve bouncer said:
Also, whats up with Japanese girls and walking all pigeon toed and dying their hair that stupid color of orange?
One good thing about them, they do like to have a good time on vacation.