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Removing Profiles - HELP!

Cave Dweller

Monkey
May 6, 2003
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Hey guys,

Im trying to get my profiles of my spindle but they are on really tight (they are brand new). I got the bike shop to put them on but i need to take them off to service a pivot on my bike.

I bought a park tool but it won't work as the arms are not threaded for the tool.

And for the life of me i can't figure out how the profile tool is supposed to get the cranks off (i have two peices as per in the pic). I think that is just for getting the arms on

I asked my local shop about it and they use a metal rod and a hammer and smash it out. WTF! That can't be good for the bearings :mumble:

There has to be another way. HELP!
 

Cave Dweller

Monkey
May 6, 2003
993
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Doh!

I just searched the profile site and you use that tool to smash the spindle out. Man, that is so dodgy. Ow well, problem solved i guess. Why couldn't they just thread the ends so you can use a normal crank removal tool :nuts: ?

-Matt
 

zane

Turbo Monkey
Mar 29, 2004
1,036
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Vancouver, WA
OKay, here's how to use the tool to remove the arm:

1)Take the sleeve part off the tool

2)Thread the tool into the crank arm snugly

3)Hit the tool with a hammer until the spindle is pushed out of the back of the arm

This is the way profile says to use their tool, I know it sounds barbaric but the only other way is to thread the bolt out slightly and hit it, or remove the bolt and put a punch into the spindle and beat it out (I've used this method a lot). I don't think a gear puller exists with jaws that would grab onto the arm and push the spindle through, but maybe you could modify one to work. Good luck.
 

zane

Turbo Monkey
Mar 29, 2004
1,036
1
Vancouver, WA
I've had 2 pairs of profiles that were so old the arms would pretty much fall off the spindle with the bolts removed, but on the pair I have now one arm is premanantly stuck on the spindle. Oh well, it still works.
 

Cave Dweller

Monkey
May 6, 2003
993
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Brian HCM#1 said:
After I removed mine a few times I was able to remove them by hand.
Thats how my old ones were. I just had them replaced under warrenty (they were 3 years old, thankyou life time warrenty) but now they are going to be a bitch to get on and off. Should have just kept the old ones.
 

Jimmy_Pop

Turbo Monkey
Mar 1, 2002
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Phoenix, Az USA
Cave Dweller said:
Thats how my old ones were. I just had them replaced under warrenty (they were 3 years old, thankyou life time warrenty) but now they are going to be a bitch to get on and off. Should have just kept the old ones.
Youre not removing/installing the arms dry are you? using WD40?

better yet, put anti-seize on the axle where the arms slide on. steel spindle + steel arm = a rusty mess.

joel
 

greenreese

Monkey
Nov 11, 2003
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I didn't install mine the first time, but I have taken the cranks and bottom bracket out a bunch of times and they come off by hand. No hammer or mallet or tool of any type required. The spindle even goes in and out by hand. I treat them well and they treat me well.

But I installed a pair on my friends ride a little while ago and they were much harder to get on and off. I had to wack them quite a bit to get them into place. I will be interested to see how they are next time I take them apart.

-dAn
 

Weaver

Monkey
Oct 27, 2003
217
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austin, TX
you dont need that tool to get them off.... just loosen up a crank bolt so it sticks out a ways... bang on that like you would the tool.. pow...right off
 

buildyourown

Turbo Monkey
Feb 9, 2004
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South Seattle
Weaver said:
you dont need that tool to get them off.... just loosen up a crank bolt so it sticks out a ways... bang on that like you would the tool.. pow...right off
That will damage your threads and the bolt. The tool is designed to put the force on the spindle end, not the threads.

Once they come on and off a few times they go by hand.

Kinda like zokes fork, you have to break 'em in.
 

DHS

Friendly Neighborhood Pool Boy
Apr 23, 2002
5,094
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Sand, CA
um, Hammer and block o wood. thats what i always used for my profiles.

no i install them with either the I-drive press we made or the headset press.

removal is still block o wood and hammer.

i think i have like 4 of those profile tools.
 

DßR

They saw my bloomers
Feb 17, 2004
980
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the DC
Weaver said:
you dont need that tool to get them off.... just loosen up a crank bolt so it sticks out a ways... bang on that like you would the tool.. pow...right off

That works OK with older cranks that are a bit shanked out. On newer ones, you'll likely end up bending the bolt. I've done it a few times.
 

Weaver

Monkey
Oct 27, 2003
217
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austin, TX
DßR said:
That works OK with older cranks that are a bit shanked out. On newer ones, you'll likely end up bending the bolt. I've done it a few times.

the key is to unthread it slightly an bang till thatis bottomed out... then unthread some more...etc...

man... i can count the number of those tools ive even seen in my life on one hand... every bmx race ive eve been at, there are a couple pros and ams doing this exact method.... it aint gonna hurt ****...