[Da Peach]

My hydro bill was $267 this month

For one month?

 

[Reactor]

For one month?

I think those are french canadian dollars. They kick you in the nuts until you spend them, and then taunt you as the cashier takes them away.

 

[Da Peach]

I think those are french canadian dollars. They kick you in the nuts until you spend them, and then taunt you as the cashier takes them away.

What is the french canadian exchange rate at these days?

I want to change some of my Quebecoins to some greenbacks today...

 

[Reactor]

What is the french canadian exchange rate at these days?

I want to change some of my Quebecoins to some greenbacks today...

Looks like they suck (if you're an American). about 1.13 cannuck dollars per greenback.

 

[Lex]

Looks like they suck (if you're an American). about 1.13 cannuck dollars per greenback.

Oh how I miss the days when I used to go to Montreal and feel rich with my American dollars. It's hard to believe that in October 2002 it was 1:1.58.

 

[Transcend]

For one month?

Gotta be for 2...or else mike has a hydroponic setup in his basement.

Also, interesting about HQ. Last I saw they were no longer operating as a crown corp (ie hemorrhaging dollars). Maybe it's a semantic thing. Either way, they still suck.

 

[Reactor]

Oh how I miss the days when I used to go to Montreal and feel rich with my American dollars. It's hard to believe that in October 2002 it was 1:1.58.

I remember the good old days when it was almost 2 to 1. I think it was something like 58 cents american for a buck canadian. I lived in seattle at the time (20 years ago). We use to go to vancouver and party like rockstars.

 

[Transcend]

Yup, 1.6 was amazing as I get paid in American dollars. Nowadays...not so much.

 

[MMike]

Gotta be for 2...or else mike has a hydroponic setup in his basement.

Also, interesting about HQ. Last I saw they were no longer operating as a crown corp (ie hemorrhaging dollars). Maybe it's a semantic thing. Either way, they still suck.

No sir.....that be for 1 month... I have electric baseboard heaters...

 

[Reactor]

No sir.....that be for 1 month... I have electric baseboard heaters...

Dang, that's more than my worst month of air conditioning even in Phoenix.

 

[Da Peach]

No sir.....that be for 1 month... I have electric baseboard heaters...

You should close the door and stop heating the great outdoors.

 

[Changleen]

Yeah, what's the extinction of a few species of plants and animals when we can "save the earth", the irony is just flowing off there.

As for the "Well, NZ does it so why doesn't everyone else", not everyone has the geography that NZ does. Often in places "renewable" (that's kind of a stupid term imho, coal and oil are renewable just on a longer time scale)energy sources are actually worse than the current "bad for the environment" sources. This is because the energy to make said collection devices for them is greater than their return. It simply does not make economic nor environmental sense at this point in time, as by the time they actually do pay off their environmental impact from creation, better technologies and techniques have been invented and reinvented that reduce the energy for creation.

In other words, depending on the location, some of these sources are like celery, sure they make look like good souces of food, but they actually take more energy to digest than they give.

Now, that being said, I'm all for using energy saving and alternative sources when they make sense, for the house I am looking at I am already looking at ways to reduce my energy consumption and dependency on the grid(Tankless water heaters, solar panels for heating water to heat the house, high density walls for a large heat mass, etc.)

You're right, some place lend themselves to the technology more than others. The other side of that coin is investment in the tech though. Solar panels have slowly become considerably more efficient over the last 20 years, but still could stand to go a lot further. IMO this is where the government should be getting involved more, pouring money not research and development for these technologies.

I read some stat about how much energy the sun actually drops on the planet's surface, and we'd only need to capture some tiny-ass percentage to power everything we ever do.

Whilst I agree that right now, it's not always practical, the more people that make the move to it, the more the tech will progress, the cheaper it will become. We should look to the effects it will be having in 20 yrs rather than just right now.