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HardtailHack

used an iron once
Jan 20, 2009
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7,464
But if you don't have a limited edition, ceramic bearing, titanium headset for $420USD then your bike is basically unrideable.
No wonder the Yellow people couldn't give a fuck about the White People's BS patents, check this out-
 

canadmos

Cake Tease
May 29, 2011
22,303
21,959
Canaderp
And the shareholders that turn their eyes away from a lot of bullshit behavior as long as the stocks go up.
They don't turn their eyes. They look at it and lock eyes.

Anything goes, as long as it equals profit, profit and PROFIT.
 

mykel

closer to Periwinkle
Apr 19, 2013
5,592
4,298
sw ontario canada
Looks like Rocky is about 68 million in debt.
They killed the entire (save 1 or 2 ) of the BC office, the designers, prototypers, sales and support staff, but the QC based C suite is pretty much untouched at this point.

That makes a lot of sense. Fire the ones actually doing good work and keep the ones who decided to fuck around far outside of core competencies.

Hope they can somehow pull a rabbit out of this mess.
 

daisycutter

Turbo Monkey
Apr 8, 2006
1,700
204
New York City
So, RM developed their own motor for their e-bikes. That must have been so expensive. Reminds me of Cannondale’s motorcycle debacle. Stay in your lane!
Dyname™ 4.0 is incredibly powerful and is truly a leader among e-bike motors. We designed the power curve within the software to deliver the 108Nm smoothly, allowing you as the rider to soft pedal around tight switchbacks or drop the hammer through a chunky, punchy, portion of trail.
 
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mykel

closer to Periwinkle
Apr 19, 2013
5,592
4,298
sw ontario canada
So, RM developed their own motor for their e-bikes. That must have been so expansive. Reminds me of Cannondale’s motorcycle debacle. Stay in your lane!
Dyname™ 4.0 is incredibly powerful and is truly a leader among e-bike motors. We designed the power curve within the software to deliver the 108Nm smoothly, allowing you as the rider to soft pedal around tight switchbacks or drop the hammer through a chunky, punchy, portion of trail.

From what I understand Dyname is its own separate company. (Albiet owned by the same dude as Rocky) Rocky licences the motor and apparently the motor in various guises is (was?) used in bike share platforms.

 

jrewing

Monkey
Aug 22, 2010
446
307
Maydena Oz
36 mil in debt. Fuck!
Weak ass managment. If they spent harder they'd have saved the company…. Haha kidding.
Its seems a culture of lack of responsibility amongst the newer generation of leaders of companies. Who cares if it sinks, we will go elsewhere….not this time ladies and gent bro managers. You be flippin burgers. Economy aint that strong.
Not cool to be conservative…haha.
 

Electric_City

Torture wrench
Apr 14, 2007
2,082
816
I always found it so weird that a drawback of some of the early 29ers was.........you'd clip your toes on the front wheel.

How hard is it to work out that the front end needs to be longer?! Then again I remember reading in a magazine that aero at over 20km/h was more important than bike fit.

I think Felt finally gave up on making MTBs, the little Aussie company Craftworks is gone.

I'm not sure how Rocky Mountain was around the globe but they seemed to be 40-50% off in Oz for at least a year and they still kept their crazy warranty.
I really thought people would start scaling back the five year and lifetime warranties, at least kill off the transferrable warranties.
Felt bikes are now Rossignol
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,508
1,726
Warsaw :/
Holy shit, this should put Rocky’s debt load into perspective.
(but it’s all proportional to sales, of course)



Should I commit Hari-kari now, or do it on Facebook live?
This is why the stock market and pe are dogshit. Everyone is thinking about quarterly growth at all cost and if sales don't go up costs are cut in moronic ways. Sure going public allows you to grow faster but you no longer control the company so not sure that's a benefit. I worked for 2 privately owned companies and 2 publicly traded ones and fuck me the publicly traded ones panicked if even the smallest % of the growth pie didn't grow. Zero long term thinking and ignoring employees with good ideas constantly. Random dumb cuts and huge employee churn.

The private companies had some issues but if things were not going according to the plan the company simply analyzed the problem and proposed systemic solutions. Ironically those companies had a harder time finding talented workers than the publicly traded one (though my current one is dogshit at finding talent despite paying really good money)
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,508
1,726
Warsaw :/
36 mil in debt. Fuck!
Weak ass managment. If they spent harder they'd have saved the company…. Haha kidding.
Its seems a culture of lack of responsibility amongst the newer generation of leaders of companies. Who cares if it sinks, we will go elsewhere….not this time ladies and gent bro managers. You be flippin burgers. Economy aint that strong.
Not cool to be conservative…haha.
It's not a cultural thing. It's incentives. If execs are forced to think in quarters and will get rewarded for growth over profits this is what happens. We need a massive reshaping of how corporations work. Hell I know of one company that trashed their tv channel because the CEO panicked when there was a 2 quarter downturn when it was simply a mixup of 2 large cultural events draining the viewership
 
Feb 21, 2020
977
1,363
SoCo Western Slope
It's not a cultural thing. It's incentives. If execs are forced to think in quarters and will get rewarded for growth over profits this is what happens. We need a massive reshaping of how corporations work. Hell I know of one company that trashed their tv channel because the CEO panicked when there was a 2 quarter downturn when it was simply a mixup of 2 large cultural events draining the viewership
Like how Fox Shocks will cut prices right before the end of the quarter if sales are down so they can "make their numbers", then raise them again a few weeks later.

We learned to wait until such times before placing a bigger order, sometimes it would save $75+ per shock at dealer cost.
 

Carraig042

me 1st
Apr 5, 2011
779
389
East Tennessee
Like how Fox Shocks will cut prices right before the end of the quarter if sales are down so they can "make their numbers", then raise them again a few weeks later.

We learned to wait until such times before placing a bigger order, sometimes it would save $75+ per shock at dealer cost.
I took advantage of the sale, not mad. 36 grip x2 on the way.
 

roflbox

roflborx
Jan 23, 2017
3,173
846
Raleigh, NC
Loan manager got a bro deal on a RM moped.
wells had to have looked at the balance sheet listed in the restructuring filing, and seen that rocky had failed to turn a profit in the last 2 years (not even close either, loses of 18-19 million) and then said "yeah, a line of credit for 30 million seems ok"

though, to be fair, their revenue was 260 million (2023), and 195 million for 2024, but still :confused: