Really? I haven't had any luck getting a reply out of Obtanium springs. Pretty keen to try out one of their springs on my 9.5 x 3.0 Vivid.Have something coming in soon from ti-bender for my Vivid. It will make my Vivid not only feel and look good, but will also make it feel like it ws on a Diet!!!! Pictures and ride report coming soon to a Ridemonkey web site near you.
Cecil
Use their online ordering to get one. They have stock. You will need to get the Rock Shox Space Adapter for the 3" stroke shock. Their springs were designed around the Vivid but can work with most shocks out there.Really? I haven't had any luck getting a reply out of Obtanium springs. Pretty keen to try out one of their springs on my 9.5 x 3.0 Vivid.
Yeah but I want to know what they weigh first, plus the online ordering system won't let me add the necessary spacer for the 3" Vivid shock.Use their online ordering to get one. They have stock. You will need to get the Rock Shox Space Adapter for the 3" stroke shock. Their springs were designed around the Vivid but can work with most shocks out there.
http://www.obtainiumperformanceproducts.com/products.htm
At the premium price Ti springs go for these days, I would expect it to fit my shock without the need of a spacer. I can understand the desire to save weight (especially on a 3" stroke spring where the weight-saving is considerable over steel) but in this case you'll probably also see a slight decrease in performance by using a spring that is too short.We designed our titanium spring around the Vivid. Of course with that in mind our springs are adaptable to most high end shocks using our Performance Adapters. Also keep in mind that if you are using a 3.00 stroke Vivid a spacer is needed due to the titanium spring being shorter than a steel spring but the same spring can be used a 2.75 inch stroke Vivid without the spacer.
I went 50lbs down from my DHX spring. Feels good, and I'm not bottoming with the Vivid where I should have with the DHX running it slightly under sprung.Can anyone else correlate the supposed 50lb spring differences between a dhx? I'm ordering mine tomorrow and wondering If I should go down 50 lbs as others have suggested. I don't see how the valving could be effecting static sag considering they are similar shocks, unless there was a platform, which neither the DHX or vivid have. Or is there another explanation?
The only way you would see a decrease in performance is if the spring did not have enough travel.Ignore the free length,if the springs stroke allows for proper preload and still has enough travel for your shock where do you get a decrease in performance?What is your opion of the benefit of Ti for springs?Or anybody out there,list your pros and cons of Ti for springs.At the premium price Ti springs go for these days, I would expect it to fit my shock without the need of a spacer. I can understand the desire to save weight (especially on a 3" stroke spring where the weight-saving is considerable over steel) but in this case you'll probably also see a slight decrease in performance by using a spring that is too short.
I don't know who told you this but its not ture. Both Steel and Ti feel very close to the same. If anything I have always felt Ti felt a little better. Guess its just the weight difference really. I would say the guys that told you this may not have their shocks setup right for their weight (Just a thought).but what I hear from some people is that the ride feals dead.
One of the guys works at a dutch motorcycle susp comany. He and some other testriders expierenced that the Ti springs felt harder. And his opinion also was that a Ti spring should be replaced after 1 year use because it can suddenly break. Could be that that is based on his experiences from 10 years ago.I don't know who told you this but its not ture. Both Steel and Ti feel very close to the same. If anything I have always felt Ti felt a little better. Guess its just the weight difference really. I would say the guys that told you this may not have their shocks setup right for their weight (Just a thought).
Cool I can respect that, but from my 12+ years of racing experience I have never have those problems with MT Ti Springs. Most all of my Race bikes have always had Ti springs and I normally keep the same Ti spring year over year unless I need to change spring rates due to new bikes. I know guys that have had the same Ti spring for almost 6+ years. Never a problem and it still feels like it did new.One of the guys works at a dutch motorcycle susp comany. He and some other testriders expierenced that the Ti springs felt harder. And his opinion also was that a Ti spring should be replaced after 1 year use because it can suddenly break. Could be that that is based on his experiences from 10 years ago.
could be that his experiences where based on older Ti springs from other combinations of metals or something. But like I said before I never tried it myself so... I find it a lot of money just to save 200grams or something like that. But maybe I should just try it at least once.Cool I can respect that, but from my 12+ years of racing experience I have never have those problems with MT Ti Springs. Most all of my Race bikes have always had Ti springs and I normally keep the same Ti spring year over year unless I need to change spring rates due to new bikes. I know guys that have had the same Ti spring for almost 6+ years. Never a problem and it still feels like it did new.
My 2 cents, as I don't work for a Suspension Company or never had..
Congrats!!! You will like it a lot and how easy it is to setup!!!!And to be in topic regarding the vivid. I just ordered one, should be here in about 2 weeks. Hope it fits on the bike, its a socom, somebody?
Did you get a RS spring? Funny as mine went streight on with no problems. I just got my Obtainium Performance Ti spring in yesterday. It went on great!!!!!just got the shock today and I had some trouble installing the spring.
I have the 300lbs spring and with the preload ring all the way to the top I had some difficultys squizing in the collar, with some force it got in. But now I am wondering how I can ever get it of. Because I could use the collar as a lever.
But besides that it felt good in a parking lot test but I will try it out on the trail tomorrow. I also thought it would be heavier then the dhx but it is a difference of max 50gram.
How much clicks should the HSR have? because I can barely feel 4 clicks.
Mine was the same - just required a bit more muscling that's all.just got the shock today and I had some trouble installing the spring.
I have the 300lbs spring and with the preload ring all the way to the top I had some difficultys squizing in the collar, with some force it got in. But now I am wondering how I can ever get it of. Because I could use the collar as a lever.
finely etched - you need to look closelywhere on the shock is it printed what tune it is because I cant find it. edit: just read that it should be on the shaft eyelet. Is that the eye where the mounting hardware goes in on the side of the shaft?
the bike shop in my area are selling these for $550 cdn...but that could vary depending on your location.thanks acadian, I was looking for a sticker or something.
Anybody know the price of a A tune assembly for the 3" shock.
I can't speak for the roco as I have never been on one. But as Small Bump sensitivity goes, the Vivid is much better than the DHX without as much pedal bob as the DHX has with the Pro pedal all the way on.so i have a 06 shova lt /w roco wc. should i give it to push/motopitkan or take a vivid? i do mostly bikepark runs and ride the high alpine stuff with lots of steps in steep, rough terrain. i want more small bump sensitiveness but also a little less to no pedal bob.
... so that's straight from the source.Somebody asked about shock tunes for a VIVID and there was some debate as to the Rock Shox tune for the Sunday. Because of the dw-link's position sensitive anti-squat curve, and the bike's leverage rate curve, Rock Shox developed the "A Level" tune for the bike.
Keep in mind that the Sunday was designed to use a damper with some end travel ramp, so set your shock up accordingly.
Dave