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Ron Paul: Traitor to his country

kidwoo

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Uh......nowhere did I post a news story about anything mentioning this particular instance bud. What I did post was an article from 2005 talking about JT mcwhiteypants.

When I went to the link that I looked at a few days ago where distinguished dr Paul found his inspiration, the issue was taken down. Sorry about that. Why do you think that is by the way?

So what was the 'fleet footed' referencing?


Here's a little help.

(and this was just SOOOOO hard to find)

http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/ron-paul-newsletter


Here's a fun little one I found in about 8 seconds.

 
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kidwoo said:
Uh......nowhere did I post a news story about anything mentioning this particular instance bud. What I did post was an article from 2005 talking about JT mcwhiteypants.

When I went to the link that I looked at a few days ago where distinguished dr Paul found his inspiration, the issue was taken down. Sorry about that. Why do you think that is by the way?

So what was the 'fleet footed' referencing?


Here's a little help.

(and this was just SOOOOO hard to find)

http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/ron-paul-newsletter


Here's a fun little one I found in about 8 seconds.

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Yes, I get that the link you posted wasn't his newsletter.

I have no idea. Conspiracy theory?

The fleet footed comment is again from one of his newsletters in reference to theft. You didn't enlighten me to this fact, but I've used the internet enough to know that it makes no sense to try to prove that I already knew something.
 
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I suppose the biggest reason why I am apathetic towards this issue, is because the newsletters are so old and the writings don't resonate with the person that he is today.
 
stevew

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I'm glad you found a black that you could catch and had sound political opinions. They are so fleet of foot, you know, especially if they happen to have your purse.
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or if they run into the white folks that still insist on carrying around their freshly laundered white linens in public
 
kidwoo

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also false, but carry-on
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Well you're ahead of me then because I hadn't and LITERALLY just started clicking on links to individual issues.

I went through three, only one didn't didn't sound like some white supremacist shlt.

So you mentioned that YOU are apathetic but then also say that these claims are absurd. You can see why people are bringing this up now. Don't lie for the sake of an argument, you can understand where this is coming from.

I'm out for some bourbon and rum ballz for a few hours. We'll catch up later mmmkay
 
Silver

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So, remember the 95% of black males are criminals? Apologists for Dr. Racist keep telling me that was part of a nuanced argument against the nation's drug laws, which have a disproportionate effect on black males.

So, here's the actual page:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tZd2k3NFxAc/TtqLdM0-ocI/AAAAAAAAFTM/IM8h6qQr0t0/s1600/The+Ron+Paul+Political+Report+Special+Issue+on+Race+Terrorism+8.jpg

Other pages here:

http://www.mrdestructo.com/2011/12/ron-paul-political-report-special-issue.html

Unless the page directly before the first one referenced contains the following sentence: "If I meant anything on the next page, I'd clearly be a caricature of an ignorant racist and white supremacist" then I'm afraid that argument won't suffice for anyone who has an IQ above room temperature.
 
Toshi

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Silver said:
So, remember the 95% of black males are criminals? Apologists for Dr. Racist keep telling me that was part of a nuanced argument against the nation's drug laws, which have a disproportionate effect on black males.

So, here's the actual page:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tZd2k3NFxAc/TtqLdM0-ocI/AAAAAAAAFTM/IM8h6qQr0t0/s1600/The+Ron+Paul+Political+Report+Special+Issue+on+Race+Terrorism+8.jpg

Other pages here:

http://www.mrdestructo.com/2011/12/ron-paul-political-report-special-issue.html

Unless the page directly before the first one referenced contains the following sentence: "If I meant anything on the next page, I'd clearly be a caricature of an ignorant racist and white supremacist" then I'm afraid that argument won't suffice for anyone who has an IQ above room temperature.
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Well, is it true or is it not true that "black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings, and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers"? (I'd venture, without knowing the stats, that it's true, but that a large portion of the effect can be explained by SES. This in turn begs the question of why do we have persistent low SES in the black community. Is it because our welfare state isn't strong enough? Riots in Britain would seem to indicate otherwise. Is it because affirmative action isn't affirmative enough? You all know my opinion on that already…)

Also note that the LA riots were predominantly black(-on-Korean). They were a race riot. Was the beating of Rodney King reprehensible? Sure. Burning down Korean storefronts isn't the proper response in any universe I know of, though.
 
dante

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I suppose the biggest reason why I am apathetic towards this issue, is because the newsletters are so old and the writings don't resonate with the person that he is today.
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You sound like a criminal's mother when she's interviewed by the police:

"Oh, that doesn't sound like MY sonny boy!"

He's an old white politician from the South. I'd honestly be more surprised if he *didn't* have some racism in his background somewhere...
 
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Chuckle. The attack ads pretty much write themselves...

-- No air conditioning for troops (as a way to bring them home): "We're spending -- believe it or not, this blew my mind when I read this -- $20 billion a year for air conditioning in Afghanistan and Iraq in the tents over there and all the air conditioning. Cut that $20 billion out, bring in -- take $10 billion off the debt, and put $10 billion into FEMA or whoever else needs it, child health care or whatever," he said at the NBC News-POLITICO debate. "But I'll tell you what, if we did that and took the air conditioning out of the Green Zone, our troops would come home, and that would make me happy."
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Wow, the righties are *petrified* of this guy. Read this WSJ article this morning and was appalled, and apparently it's spread throughout the interwebs at blistering speed. 1300+ comments on the article...



I have to say, I relish the idea of a Ron Paul nomination on the Republican side. One, I'm fairly certain that he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the presidency, but if he's running to the *left* of Obama on foreign policy and military issues, it allows Obama to walk back and stake a far more moderate/liberal stance on those. Obama had to tack right to go up against John "Bomb bomb bomb Iran" McCain, but if he's running against a guy who's advocating cutting our military in half, Obama looks like the sane rational person by only cutting it by 1/4. Same with civil liberties, the Afghanistan war, etc.

All that being said, calling Ron Paul a traitor because he thinks that American foreign and military policy in the Middle East might have contributed to 9/11 is appalling.
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Obama is not going to become more liberal. He's had plenty of opportunities to show his true colors since being elected, and he is a neocon.

Anyone that opposes the drug war is less racist than someone who is for it. The drug war is the biggest source of institutional racism left in America today. Obama doesn't give a ****, Ron Paul condemns it and it's effects on the black community.
 
Silver

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limitedslip said:
Anyone that opposes the drug war is less racist than someone who is for it. The drug war is the biggest source of institutional racism left in America today. Obama doesn't give a ****, Ron Paul condemns it and it's effects on the black community.
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Bull****.

Just because the opposition of the drug war happens to help black males, it's merely a side-effect. Like Viagra happening to help erections as well as reducing heart attack fatalities.

That's a happy accident, not a driving feature of policy. Know how I this? I read the actual words written in the RON PAUL WHATEVER THE FVCK NEWSLETTER SELLS TO IDIOT WHITE RACISTS MONTHLY and paid attention to the white supremacist crap written inside.
 
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Silver said:
That's a happy accident, not a driving feature of policy. Know how I this? I read the actual words written in the RON PAUL WHATEVER THE FVCK NEWSLETTER SELLS TO IDIOT WHITE RACISTS MONTHLY and paid attention to the white supremacist crap written inside.
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Just the power elite trying to silence the voice of truth. Those words aren't actually there.
 
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Bull****.

Just because the opposition of the drug war happens to help black males, it's merely a side-effect. Like Viagra happening to help erections as well as reducing heart attack fatalities.

That's a happy accident, not a driving feature of policy. Know how I this? I read the actual words written in the RON PAUL WHATEVER THE FVCK NEWSLETTER SELLS TO IDIOT WHITE RACISTS MONTHLY and paid attention to the white supremacist crap written inside.
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You might be right, or at least I have no way to prove you wrong. I don't see how it matters though, the bottom line is if you want to stop decades of racially destructive policy (and perpetual war, and a police state), there's only one guy to vote for*.

*this is assuming that RP actually follows through. I was burned by Obama like everyone else
 
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Santorum... the bible-thumping homophobe that paid his gay college roommate a 7-figure sum to keep hush hush on any personal college stories.

Why pay someone a million plus dollars when you have nothing to hide?
 
Silver

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Santorum... the bible-thumping homophobe that paid his gay college roommate a 7-figure sum to keep hush hush on any personal college stories.

Why pay someone a million plus dollars when you have nothing to hide?
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It wasn't Santorum, it was his ghostwriter.
 
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David Cross summed it up best when he said "I'm not saying all republicans are racist, bigoted homophones, just the ones they choose to represent them."

RP's hands-off approach to social civil liberties are just a cowards way of not standing for anything, masked behind a I believe it to be about absolute personal freedom. I for one am glad the fed stepped in and said that women and other races should have the same rights as whites. I don't particularly like the idea of the fed not declaring the LGBT community as equals. Leaving basic freedoms up to states rights is simply a way to allow stupid, (old) whites and tribal superstitious idiot voters a means to deny rights to fellow americans.

Just look at how, americans not serving in the military said that the gay/lesbian community should hide itself (and to some extent not even serve) in the military. These are people who are denied some of the most basic rights of straight people and are still willing to put their lives on the line to defend the republic which turns its back partially on them. We live in a country where everyone knows someone that's said "I don't have any problems with gays, but if they hit on me..."
 
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