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Then The Windy City is NOT for you...



Chicago a new Prohibition kind of town
• Targeting behavior: City bans foie gras, public smoking, cell phones while driving
AP FILE
By Don Babwin
The Associated Press


CHICAGO — If you're a cell phone using, goose liver eating, cigarette smoking, fast food loving person, Chicago might not be your kind of town.

In this city that once winked at Prohibition, members of the city council are cracking down on behaviors they deem unhealthy, dangerous or just plain annoying. They've taken aim at everything from noisy street musicians to captive elephants to fatty foods like fried chicken and french fries.

A proposal that would restrict fast-food chains from cooking with artery-clogging trans fat oils got a public airing this week, and in the last year alone aldermen have banned smoking in nearly all public places and the use of cell phones while driving. In April, Chicago became the first U.S. city to outlaw the sale of foie gras, a goose liver delicacy.

Critics, including the mayor, wonder whether the city council suddenly has deemed itself the behavior police.

"We have children getting killed by gang leaders and dope dealers," an angry Mayor Richard M. Daley said when the foie gras ordinance passed. "We have real issues here in this city. And we're dealing with foie gras? Let's get some priorities."

Aldermen say they are addressing real problems and protecting their constituents. And they dispute that the proposals are diverting their attention from major issues like a city budget crunch.

"We vote on literally hundreds if not thousands of ordinances in the city council," said Alderman Joe Moore, who led the effort to ban foie gras after learning about what animal rights activists describe as an inhumane way geese are treated for their livers. "The fact that there may be greater wrongs to address doesn't mean we cannot also address what we might also view as lesser wrongs."

Critics: City ducking issues
But some people think the proposals have allowed aldermen to avoid coming up with solutions to the city's bigger problems.
"How about worrying about the price of gas, taxes, helping homeless people?" asked Wayne Johnson, an insurance analyst, who was eating his own fried chicken lunch at a downtown food court recently.

Alderman Burton Natarus, who has sponsored a host of noise ordinances aimed at turning down the volume on street musicians, construction workers, boom boxes and motorcycles, agrees with some critics who argue the council is sticking its nose where it doesn't belong.

"I think we are trying to control people's behavior too much," said Natarus, who regrets voting for the foie gras ban. "We are trying to itty bitty regulate every facet of somebody's life."

The latest target is trans fat, found in oils used to fry food like chicken. An ordinance discussed this week would limit use of such oils by fast food chains that operate in the city.

Like the foie gras ban, the trans fat proposal has earned Daley's scorn.

"Is the city council going to plan our menus?" he asked.

When the trans fat idea first came up, the Chicago Sun-Times weighed in with an editorial facetiously referring to the council's "special Committee to rid Chicago of Everything That is Bad for Us," and wondering if it was "only a matter of time before they propose ordinances against certain cell phone ring-tones, secondhand barbecue smoke and bug zappers."

Legislation of refinement?
Some observers say aldermen, who for so long have done what Daley wanted them to, are feeling emboldened to act on their own because Daley has been weakened by a city hall scandal that has snared some of his top aides.
Others wonder if the proposals have more to do with a changing city, one that is no longer the home of blue-collar industries like the steel mills and stockyards, but rather of upscale enclaves and trendy businesses.

"This is the legislation of refinement," said Perry Duis, a University of Illinois-Chicago historian who has written extensively on Chicago. "This is a city of Starbucks rather than the steel mill."

Whatever it is, more than a few people around the city want it to stop.

"I'm a big boy," said Kerry Dunaway as he munched on fried chicken downtown recently. "I can take care of myself."
 

Echo

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N8 said:
"I'm a big boy," said Kerry Dunaway as he munched on fried chicken downtown recently.
:rofl: I bet he is.

While I think outlawing foods is a bit ridiculous, the bans on smoking and using cell phones while driving are excellent, and quite common now. Sure there are a few backward places that still haven't woken up yet, but they will join the 21st century at some point.
 

Changleen

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The "don't cook my food in the lowest quality, cheap ass, really bad you oil" ordinace seems like a good idea to me.
 

Tenchiro

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Changleen said:
The "don't cook my food in the lowest quality, cheap ass, really bad you oil" ordinace seems like a good idea to me.
I see this in the same light as the FCC restricting what we can see on TV. I would rather leave it to the consumer to change the channel, or in this case choose another place to eat, if they don't like what is being served, or if people smoke there.

Rather than have 'the man' tell me what I can and can't do. But hey, I am funny like that.
 

binary visions

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Tenchiro said:
I see this in the same light as the FCC restricting what we can see on TV. I would rather leave it to the consumer to change the channel, or in this case choose another place to eat, if they don't like what is being served, or if people smoke there.

Rather than have 'the man' tell me what I can and can't do. But hey, I am funny like that.
I don't think this is really the same thing at all.

The suggested oil ordinance isn't outlawing unhealthy food. It's keeping the fast food places from preparing the unhealthy food in the lowest quality, most unhealthy oil they can use.

It's more like the government saying that certain kinds of unhealthy pesticides shouldn't be used on plants being grown to be eaten. They're not saying you can't grow the vegetables, just mandating that it be done in a healthier fashion.
 

Tenchiro

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binary visions said:
I don't think this is really the same thing at all.

The suggested oil ordinance isn't outlawing unhealthy food. It's keeping the fast food places from preparing the unhealthy food in the lowest quality, most unhealthy oil they can use.
Properly fried food has very little residual oil in it, and if frying is done wrong and there is alot of oil left in the food then it doesn't matter what kind it is. Even olive oil is bad for you after it has been heated to high temps.

At the same time they are ignoring foods like Oreo's that are loaded with the stuff.

They need to focus their resources at educating the public about these things and let people decide on their own.
 

Old Man G Funk

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So for example I can't smoke in a park or on the footpath? Good luck enforcing that.
It probably means banning smoking in indoor areas that are frequented by the public. It would probably also expand to areas around doors of restaurants, etc.
 

BurlyShirley

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valve bouncer said:
So for example I can't smoke in a park or on the footpath? Good luck enforcing that.
No, you are right. I was just being smartass. Chicago is pretty stupid like that sometimes. The democrats have been entrenched in my hometown for quite sometime...it's amazing the laws that get passed. Goose livers....who gives a ****? :D
 

Old Man G Funk

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BurlyShirley said:
No, you are right. I was just being smartass. Chicago is pretty stupid like that sometimes. The democrats have been entrenched in my hometown for quite sometime...it's amazing the laws that get passed. Goose livers....who gives a ****? :D
It goes along with any cruelty to animals law.
 

BurlyShirley

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Old Man G Funk said:
It goes along with any cruelty to animals law.
Yeah but, you know, if Im eating them, I dont care. Im agianst beating dogs and the like, but overfeeding a goose. I dont care. **** the goose. He's going to die anyway.
 

ohio

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Old Man G Funk said:
I wonder, which animals are OK for maltreatment? Do you have some sort of rule about it, or do you just wing it?
Well some animals deserve to be beaten. For example, it's always okay to flog the dolphin.
 

Tenchiro

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I always wondered why people were so concerned about dolphins getting caught in Tuna nets, but were more than happy to chow down on a tuna fish sammich?
 

Old Man G Funk

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Silver said:
An immature person would have mentioned that monkey spanking and chicken choking are also acceptable.
What's the difference between eggs, meat, a wife, and a bj?

A: You can beat your eggs, beat your meat, even beat your wife, but you can't beat a bj.
 

dhbuilder

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BurlyShirley said:
Mostly it means that in public places, you cant smoke, retard.
everyone knows you can't smoke a retard.

ya gotta deepfry em in cheap oil and serve em up with a side of goose liver.
 

Tenchiro

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dhbuilder said:
everyone knows you can't smoke a retard.

ya gotta deepfry em in cheap oil and serve em up with a side of goose liver.
Make sure you get them to an internal temp of at least 165.