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rubbing on haynes disc brakes?

Echo

crooked smile
Jul 10, 2002
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Well basically when I get disc rub, I just have someone squeeze the brake lever, then loosen and re-tighten the caliper screws. If that doesn't work, you could try to eyeball it, although that's a little less exact of a method ;)
 

mrbigisbudgood

Strangely intrigued by Echo
Oct 30, 2001
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Sounds like it's time to re-center.

remove wheel

remove pads

push pads back with a 10mm box end wrench

re-install pads

re-install wheel

loosen caliper mouting bolts

put a business card between the rotor and pads on each side

squeeze brakes till they set

tighten bolts

You should be golden.
 

Tenchiro

Attention K Mart Shoppers
Jul 19, 2002
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Do the business cards really do anything? I mean the next time you apply the brakes without the cards in there the pistons will just extend that much further until they clamp down and then be in the same position that they would have been without the cards in there.

or am I missing something?
 

peter6061

Turbo Monkey
Nov 19, 2001
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I thought the business card trick sounded great and went to try it only to find out that it doesn't work on Hayes. Hayes are self adjusting meaning that once the business cards are removed, the pads will go in that much further before retracting the same amount.

It did work on some XTRs I bled though.

I found that the small reach adjustment screws on the Hayes lever offered plenty of adjustment for pad contact feel.

Other than that,... good explaination by mrB above.

Also, is the rubbing continuous or at one spot in the disc?(bent) I've had to straigten a few including my own from time to time.
 

MACKAY

Chimp
Mar 25, 2003
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I had that probeblem when i got my new bike. It would get annoying and i thought something was wrong then after i got out to ride more and more it went away.
 

Gorse

Chimp
Mar 27, 2003
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Originally posted by MtnBikerNJ
new bike.. and the hayes disc brakes rub (well, the front does anyway). any ideas on how to get rid of it?
If the disc is warped and reseating the caliper hasn't cured it, you will probably find a long downhill run will sort it out. The rotors have a neat self-straightening feature when cooked up.
 

Echo

crooked smile
Jul 10, 2002
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Originally posted by Gorse
If the disc is warped and reseating the caliper hasn't cured it, you will probably find a long downhill run will sort it out. The rotors have a neat self-straightening feature when cooked up.
And if it doesn't fix the rotor, well, at least you had a nice long downhill run :D :D :D
 

oldfart

Turbo Monkey
Jul 5, 2001
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North Van
Sometimes Hayes pistons don't retract evenly. A biz card on the rubbing side when you loosen clamp and tighten the mounts will often do the trick.
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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If they're genuine Haynes disk brakes, they should come with an 'Inspected by' number on the waistband. I'd call Haynes customer service and ask to speak with your Haynes inspector.

:p

PS I never understood the bidness card thing, either. Can someone explain to me just what governs the relative motion of the pistons to one another, and how exactly they center themselves...? I use Hope, myself, but just switched to the open systems and can't always get them drag-free.

MD
 

Mecannoman

Chimp
Mar 16, 2003
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Originally posted by MikeD
I never understood the bidness card thing, either. Can someone explain to me just what governs the relative motion of the pistons to one another, and how exactly they center themselves
Pure Magic...

I've been told that the pistons are 'fooled' into thinking that the rotor is thicker than normal, thereby offering more lever travel. In practice, this has worked for me. I don't notice the pistons migrating towards the rotor afterwards.

Maybe it's the aliens...:confused:
 

Gorse

Chimp
Mar 27, 2003
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New Zealand
Originally posted by mrbigisbudgood
Sounds like it's time to re-center.


push pads back with a 10mm box end wrench


The ceramic piston is very brittle and is easily cracked/chipped. Use a plastic tyre lever...(learnt from own experience):(
 

roel_koel

Monkey
Mar 26, 2003
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nah its the industry-known "magic hayes brake rub" like a harpies screeching noise, I never get it when riding, just when pushing my DH bike to the top of the run..