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S-Works Demo 8

Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by max.broman, Sep 20, 2011.

  1. max.broman

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    Don't know who's seen this yet, sure people have, but figured I'd share it.



    Brendan Fairclough on an S-Works Demo 8, there it is.
     

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    + pros get all sorts of cool stuff that never sees production for worlds.
     
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    + repped. :rofl:
     
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    I didn't see a thread on it. I thought I heard they had a carbon frame at Worlds but I'm surprised there's not more hype.
     
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    They also mixed Unicorn piss into the resin so its twice as light and four times as strong.
     
  8. max.broman

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    Ooops, didn't know it. First time I had seen it.
     
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    You didn't watch the world champs?
     
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    Those Demos weren't carbon by the way. The paint looked sick though.
     
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    Did they just use the dremel on the weldings?

    Did they refuse any detail shots of the frame just for the hype?:think:
     
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    Yeah. What the hell? Usually no photos means there is something new to the bike. What's up with that?
     
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    Just looking at the pictures present on the web makes his statement a little difficult to believe as well. Unless they are now hydroforming two sections and grinding off all the welds, then it appears to be a composite. Kind of hard to refute that at this point.
     
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    You can't see anything in those pics. I think they do use smooth welds (double pass to smooth out the beads). I saw the bikes all week long and talked with Troy and Brendan a couple times. I did not directly ask either of them if they were carbon because you could see welds under the paint plain as day. I checked them out and they were just very nicely painted Demos not the carbon one we saw pics of at Whistler. The bikes looked great but were not carbon.

    I could be wrong but I doubt it, Transcend would know for sure.
     
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    Well there you go. Perhaps the 'no photo' crap was to create some hype.
     
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    Well that didn't work very well.

    Maybe instead they should have leaked something about a new suspension design to replace the 8-year old triple-stays rather than an S-works paint job.

    Nothing against the demo or continuous improvement on a design. I guess it's kinda like the Porsche 911, with enough refinement you can make even a fundamentally flawed concept work really well - they both got a lot of junk in the trunk!
     
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    looks like CF ?

     
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    I'm fairly certain they are quite happy racking up world championships on their "8 year old" design. ;)
     
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    That swingarm design has been stiff as fvck™ and really light for years. Coming up with something else for the sake of people who can't tell what they're looking at would be a little silly.
     
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    Transcend My Nuts Are Flat

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    Exactly. It may have 6 stays but somehow they can still build up 35lb DH sleds with it that survive under guys like Brendan.
     
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    I really don't get it. All it is is a split chainstay on a horst link bike. From an engineering standpoint, doing it with two tubes is adding more rigidity with about the same amount of materia as a single piece.....like extra ribs in an I-beam.

    People get so hung up on that for some reason. "huh huh, lots of stuff, me not like, SMASH!! SMASH!!"
     
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    People also get pretty hung up on a couple thousand year old murder mystery....
     
  23. NoUseForAName

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    It allows them to put the shock wherever they feel is optimal. And had the benefit of making shorter chainstays and a stiffer back end.

    What's not to like?
     
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    :rofl::rofl:

    But it's so CONFUSING to look at!! :rolleyes:

    Seriously. That design is awesome.
     
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    the Demo was a breath of fresh air after the Big Hits ;)

    the Big Hit was kinda wobbly in the rear when pushed hard (especially once the bearings were worn in)

    and had physical limitations: longer chainstays, high standover height and high centre of gravity, due to the shock packaging / interupted seat pod

    also, the FSR suspension on the Big Hits hung up the square edge bumps quite noticeably with a near vertical axle path, compared to the later Demos which had a more rearwards path (relatively speaking)

    the Demo allowed them to do everything they wanted with the FSR platform by introducing much more design flexibility into the system, dropping standover / cog and shortening the rear stays :)
     
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    :rofl::rofl::rofl:

    indeed they do..
     
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    The demo deserves a lot of credit, no doubt, but I don't think it's the fundamental design that deserves the credit...it's still the same old FSR linkage with relatively little anti-squat but active braking. It's the refinement that deserves the credit...in geometry, bearing design, FEA, materials, weight reduction, leverage ratio/shock tuning, etc.

    I really don't think the triple stays give any advantages that can't be achieved in other designs given similar levels of refinement, especially given 8 years to do it...
     
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    If those Demos weren't CF they forgot to paint ISCG tabs :D
     
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    It also seems alot smoother around the lower part of the shock tunnel. I compared it to my own and mine is alot more squared off, the same goes for the weld that connects the tunnel to the downtube.

    Considering it was a while before champs they had a proto out in whistler, it seems highly likely they would give their top riders an edge at worlds. But a great marketing scheme none the less, someone has done their homework over at the big S.
     
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    not so similar
     
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    Stop making sense, this is the internet.
     
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    like these?
     
  33. IH8Rice

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    cannondale has been doing it for years.


    though this DT section looks interested if its aluminum
     
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    chainstay is deff metal,can see weld,the top tube is deff carbon
     
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    This thread is definitely awesome!
     
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    best way to know is at the bb erea,if its got a flat piece welded under-neeth it if not plasticzzz
     
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    how meny oakley limited editions are you guys making.

    I've followed all threads and I only see one model,and the tld facebook page FINALLY updated and put that same google.

    Is there seriously only one pair/color of tld oakleys ?????
     
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    LOL, will SOMEONE please answer this guy's question so he can stop asking everyone and their mom about it? :rofl:
     
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    people have answered him but yet he continues to ask. :rofl:
     
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    As mentioned already, there is at least 2 - red and orange. Stop friggin' obsessing already, christ. It's a pair of goggles?