These are the latest incarnation of saints, just came out like 5 minutes ago. Any of you guys having problems with the chain getting in between the ring and the guard? The mounting tabs on these cranks are pretty thick, thicker than the cranks I just took off. There's definitely enough space for the chain to sit in there (and it has). Gamut guard. WTF is up with that? I'm either grinding the guard or getting another guide. Never an issue on older saint cranks or the srammich ones I've run with the same guide.