That goes without saying....all the normal people are.......whip me beat me make me look cheapOriginally posted by Serial Midget
OK - but I am more into whips and chains aspects myself.
Same-Sex Marriages...Is it Still Taboo?
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so if the issue is about equality and freedom, then why can gay/lesbians fly the gay pride flag but if i wear a straight pride shirt or put a straight pride sticker on my truck i'm liable for a lawsuit because it might "offend" someone. but if i try to sue because the gay pride flag might offend me i'll be thrown out of court? doesn't sound very fair to me.
and i'm not even going be begin disproving the poll choice of "genetic predisposition" towards homosexuality...i'll save that for another thread.
WHAH!!! You're full of crap - wear straight pride t-shirts (Big Johnsons are cool) and plaster your truck with straight pride bumper stickers... no one will even notice let alone sue. 
You're gonna have to try a little harder at the oppressed white guy thing...
You're gonna have to try a little harder at the oppressed white guy thing...
don't be so sure of yourself. SEVERAL lawsuits have been over the use of this slogan. i just get pissed that it's not politically "ok" to be proud of being straight.Originally posted by Serial Midget
WHAH!!! You're full of crap - wear straight pride t-shirts (Big Johnsons are cool) and plaster your truck with straight pride bumper stickers... no one will even notice let alone sue.
You're gonna have to try a little harder at the oppressed white guy thing...
here's an example of one person's "deal" with the use of the slogan, search around the site for more. here
misguided pride or rascism are pretty close. that is a serious issue...
traditionalists that want marriage to remain between a man and a woman can only use spokes-people of their religion or authority figures of the church to speak out and defend their concept of marriage.
Basically in Canada they are getting around it because they are making a bill that preserves the religious freedoms of every church...your church does not have to allow gay marriage within its doors. Or even accept it as a valid form of marriage.
The government does recognize gay marriage for practical purposes and a justice of the peace can be used at city hall...
I admit to being a traditionalist but I reason that it is because of my heterosexuality. On the other hand I could care less whether or not gay people chose to join together in matrimony.
As much as I would prefer to consider the church that I marry at to be hetero, it isn't my place if the queen of england decides to endorse gay marriage in her church. Besides, I don't care about what happens in the wedding before or after mine. I just want my turn and nobody elses marriage is going to matter to me. Except my wife's marriage to me. I could just go to another church you know. I have a feeling that the wifey will have a more important say in the matter. (if i ain't going solo)
Furthermore i don't see people's obligation to support religion really. Marriage Death and Christening...now that affects everyone. No matter what your sexuality is.
Moral Values are something that society is left with to develop on its own. One does not have the right to impose their moral values on another culture or people...that is just oppression.
This is why I am beggin the question as to whether or not Same-Sex marriages should be banned or not in the great old USofA.
No. You're pissed because you hate moving... 
Originally posted by Serial Midget
No. You're pissed because you hate moving...
NO!! I'M PISSED BECAUSE......WELL, ok, you're right
manimal <-------militant "straight pride" propoganda pusher
OK - I read up on what you posted and have determined that we are only being presented with part of the story. It's not the bumber sticker or the slogan - it's both in conjunction with the actions of the person who displays such a slogan.
I seriously doubt that the message itself caused harm or intimidation - the actions of the individual in conjuction with the message could easily have been threatening. I know you are smart enough to come up a few scenerios on your own. As a future cop you are going to have to deal with these situations on a daily basis - hopefully your personal views will not impede your ability to serve and protect all citizens equally.
being able to keep my personal convictions aside from business is one of the traits that will allow me to be a cop. the point i was making is that it's a double standard. i'm proud to be hetero, is there anything wrong with that? but if i display my pride the reaction is "he must be a biggot/homophobe" but the pc reaction to a gay pride flag is "wow, they sure are brave, better support them". i call bullsh1t on that one! it just seems that being proud of your sexuality is only ok if you gay. celebrate diversity.....yup, i sure am. i'm straight, i'm proud and i'm different than you...there's your diversity.
Maybe you could just buy a Hummer? Sure, more expensive than a sticker but also a more subtle way to get your message down. You don't want tinted windows - we'll need to see the baby seat in back...
or i could just do a nude mini-marathonOriginally posted by Serial Midget
Maybe you could just buy a Hummer? Sure, more expensive than a sticker but also a more subtle way to get your message down. You don't want tinted windows - we'll need to see the baby seat in back...
I'd stick to a 5K - your willy can only take so much flopping around.Originally posted by manimal
or i could just do a nude mini-marathon
two words. DUCT TAPEOriginally posted by Serial Midget
I'd stick to a 5K - your willy can only take so much flopping around.
.....but could it still be considered a nude run?
I would credit it a little more if it cited names, places, dates, you know, Officer manimal, verifiable facts...
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got to google, type in "straight pride" and see what it comes up with. verifiable lawsuits with names and places.
OK, sounds like you did your research. I stand corrected.
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No worries, having an ex-gay dad kinda forces me to know as much as i can about the gay "agenda". this is probably the ONLY subject i've ever done my homework on
i spent most of my life around homosexuals, learning, listening and trying to understand why they are the way they are. my parents were both involved in a, dare i say, "ministry" to help homosexuals that wanted to change.....so i'ave had a lot of info on the subject available to me first hand and i know the ferocity of the militant gay pride movement from former insiders. just like the media rarely reports the truth on the horrors of war, not many people are aware of the horrors of the politics surrounding these issues. i am in no way a homophobe/biggot, i'm just tired of being forced to "tolerate" ideals that go against my convictions while being told that my principles no longer matter.
exactly.
What's funny about ridemonkey, is that its such an odd slice of the population. Here, there are both rich and poor people, black and white people, and i would assume some gay and straight people. Yet, as we all notice in these threads, the types of people who visit here arent the normal football on sunday, two kids in the back yard, mother in the nursing home, SUV driving, bassboat owning Americans...or canadians. Of course, this can be attributed to the fact that our sport, for the most part, is not so mainstream to attract those kinds of people.
However, it is exactly those people who are the lifeblood of the country. If anyone's principle's matter it is theirs' and they're not here to speak up for themselves. In fact, they probably dont even care. They know what they want. Stability, safety, jobs and money.
This is why when polls like the one atop this thread look so one sided, no one gets too happy or sad either way. My ideals on this site often look ultra conservative, as do manimals, but really, we're somewhere in the middle. Maybe to some of you guys, its as simple as you've tried to make it sound (gay marriages) but i personally dont believe it to be that way. I think more change than is necessary would result ....in the lives of everyone.
Dude - that is what America is all about. Straight white men have already had their day, sorry you missed it - now step aside and, for God's sake, remove that bumper sticker before you enter the Police Academy!
Some is rich, some is poor - that's the way the world is.
I personally am not comfortable with anyone suggesting how I should live my life - therefore it behooves me to extend this courtesy to others. Live, let live and keep track of your own house.
you mean theirs principles should matter more then yours because they fit a certain criteria?dont you pay as much taxes as those people?yes you do!
dont you wake up every morning to go work like the rest of those people?yes you do!
Stability,safety,jobs and money are common goals sought after by alot of people including i am sure alot of the members on this forum.
No kidding!
My whole point was that this part of the population is almost completely unrepresented in how we talk here. Their principles are very valuable and should not be ignored, although many here tend not to give them much consideration, even though when combined, they are what makes the country go. Yes, you and i both pay taxes and we have our say here. We defend what we write and try to hash things out. But we, no matter how vocal or self righteous we become, arent that significant in the overall scheme of things.
I agree with your point.
This does not mean you will escape my ridicule in regards to the "switchback" issue.
News Update
I don't think that canada is going to reinforce this law anymore. If anything the lawsuits won by Ontario and British Columbia could still be overturned.
It looks like the Jean Chretien Government is getting torn to pieces by Canadians and the Legacy is crumbling to bits and pieces.
All of that controvercy matched by the external political pressure may cause Canada to join the moral majority yet.
I never thought I'd see the day when this happened.
I don't think that canada is going to reinforce this law anymore. If anything the lawsuits won by Ontario and British Columbia could still be overturned.
It looks like the Jean Chretien Government is getting torn to pieces by Canadians and the Legacy is crumbling to bits and pieces.
All of that controvercy matched by the external political pressure may cause Canada to join the moral majority yet.
I never thought I'd see the day when this happened.
CANADA may become the 51st state afterall!Originally posted by Drunken_Ninja
News Update
All of that controvercy matched by the external political pressure may cause Canada to join the moral majority yet.
I never thought I'd see the day when this happened.
Please, I feel we all need to be a little more P.C. around here.Originally posted by manimal
CANADA may become the 51st state afterall!
The proper term is not Canada, its America Jr.
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Here it goes again.
It looks like the real question is not whether or not gay people should be allowed to marry. Or even wed. The term marriage is simply something traditional and sacred.
The redefinition of marriage is what most people in Canada are mad about.
It looks like, rather than legalizing gay marriage, Canada is going too...
I guess that means that only one person who voted may have predicted that this would happen. The person who voted: that gays and lesbians are simply misguided.
It looks like the real question is not whether or not gay people should be allowed to marry. Or even wed. The term marriage is simply something traditional and sacred.
The redefinition of marriage is what most people in Canada are mad about.
It looks like, rather than legalizing gay marriage, Canada is going too...
I guess that means that only one person who voted may have predicted that this would happen. The person who voted: that gays and lesbians are simply misguided.
i say screw the catholic church and all their dirty dealings. screw those people that are worried about society collapsing because a definition is changed. its just WURDS, man, like, really, who SHOULD give a ****?
homosexual relationships have been going on for ages. its just now that a critical mass has been reached and this marginalised community has representation and a voice.
a lot of people - i'd say all of them heterosexuals - are afraid that something deviant will happen to them because billy and bobby or pat and chris tied the knot.... and now the rest of society has its tits in a knot because they are confused, alone, misunderstood, and are having their periods three weeks late.
love has no bounds.... and the state and church should not do anything to stop it otherwise (unless it includes animals and children)
homosexual relationships have been going on for ages. its just now that a critical mass has been reached and this marginalised community has representation and a voice.
a lot of people - i'd say all of them heterosexuals - are afraid that something deviant will happen to them because billy and bobby or pat and chris tied the knot.... and now the rest of society has its tits in a knot because they are confused, alone, misunderstood, and are having their periods three weeks late.
love has no bounds.... and the state and church should not do anything to stop it otherwise (unless it includes animals and children)
true, love has no bounds but the hetero/homo issue is not based on love. the ONLY difference between hetero/homo is sexual relations. for instance, i LOVE my wife and i have sex with her (not as often as i'd like
) therefore i am a hetero. However, i had some male friends in the corps that i LOVED; i would take a bullet for them as they would for me, i could trust them with my money and family if something ever happened to me but our relationship was not sexual, we were like brothers. Therefore, the dividing line between hetero/homo is the act of sex not love. So if adam and steve want to have sex then fine...but like the supreme court ruling states (paraphrased) "we dont' care who you do...just keep it PRIVATE."
unfortunately, this concept doesn't help to clear up the murky waters surrounding the marriage issue, it only clarifies the difference between homo/hetero.
ummmm.... the difference between hetero and homo is the partner. the act of sexual relations (i luv that term) in the bedroom or otherwise is always possible of happening - cuz a phallic member can fit in many holes.
why should who you get it on with make a diff? just because you love yo friends and you love yo wife/husband doesn't make you a sexual maniac, deviant person nor a psychopath. normality is hetero so homo must be abnormal? gimme a break.
not legalising same-sex marriages is foolish and childish.
why should who you get it on with make a diff? just because you love yo friends and you love yo wife/husband doesn't make you a sexual maniac, deviant person nor a psychopath. normality is hetero so homo must be abnormal? gimme a break.
not legalising same-sex marriages is foolish and childish.
when did i say that anything was abnormal? i was simply questioning the validity of using "love knows no bounds" as a basis for legalizing gay marriages when the only difference between a hetero/homo is the gender of the SEXUAL partner, whether it's "normal" or not is a totally different issue.
LOL...everytime i hear the phrase: "sexual relations" i think of "coming to america" when the preacher introduces the R&B group "sexual chocolate". i don't know why i think of that but it cracks me up
Question: why is it when conversation turns to homo vs. hetero relations, everyone focuses on male relationships but rarely on female ones?
Just a curious thought...is society more comfortable with two women loving each other more than with two men? Why, do you think?
I mean - even in porn two women together is constantly portrayed...(and yes, I'm well aware that men love to watch two women enjoying each other)....but rarely are two men ever portrayed...
Do you think perhaps, that overall, women are simply more comfortable with each other and society accepts female relationships as more "normal" than male ones?
Just a curious thought...is society more comfortable with two women loving each other more than with two men? Why, do you think?
I mean - even in porn two women together is constantly portrayed...(and yes, I'm well aware that men love to watch two women enjoying each other)....but rarely are two men ever portrayed...
Do you think perhaps, that overall, women are simply more comfortable with each other and society accepts female relationships as more "normal" than male ones?
guessing:
since we live in a patriarchal society, men will love seeing two women together. it probably may have something to do with nurture as well, cuz gurlz may be taught to be more loving (hah!).
i may be wrong, yet when i say homersexual, i'm saying two members of identical gender together doin their thang.
since we live in a patriarchal society, men will love seeing two women together. it probably may have something to do with nurture as well, cuz gurlz may be taught to be more loving (hah!).
i may be wrong, yet when i say homersexual, i'm saying two members of identical gender together doin their thang.
thank you.
I knew I liked you for a reason.
HAHAHA! What have I done?
Oh yeah... the good old days, when homosexuals had more political impact than the price of gas.