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Big Creek Trail Development Meeting NOTES
- Tues, Aug 31st

Open House for Big Creek Park Wetlands Enhancement was held as scheduled and MTBr's showed up in force. A slide show presented by GeoSyntec project leader Ganesh Gopalakrishnan was followed by an intense Q&A. Questions about MTB trails were deferred to Roswell P&R, who, in turn, deferred them to our man Bob Grieco. It became clear that the City's development of the wetlands will replace much of the existing beginning and intermediate trail system with its concrete and boardwalk trails. This part of the park plan appears to be 'cast in concrete'. Fate of MTB trails will be considered only AFTER the wetlands project completion next Spring. Answers to questions about park access when heavy-duty earthmoving work starts this October were non-committal. It appears that while Roswell P&R and RAMBO have been commiserating, the wetlands project has been moving forward - oblivious to MTB usage. Look for more answers at our next meeting 8 September

 

[Swine]

Damn!

been riding there 5+ years. man, that place is the way and the reason i got into dh. :mumble: :mumble:

 

[BillT]

That would really suck if they develop that area! I was up there once staying with some friends of my wife's family in Cummings and I spent a fun-filled day riding that place and hitting some of the smaller jumps in the freeride area.

 

[DVNT]

That would really suck if they develop that area! I was up there once staying with some friends of my wife's family in Cummings and I spent a fun-filled day riding that place and hitting some of the smaller jumps in the freeride area.

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It's a done deal.
As we (sorba / rambo) were discussing options with the Parks and Rec, the City went ahead and approved the concrete walkways and boardwalk. I'll be a waste just like the Mosquito filled useless sh!t trails at Sope Creek / Columns Drive. They are going to drain the swamp and make three small lakes.

We'll have to re-route all the XC trails as they decided to design the walking trails to cross them no less than 6 times. It's just a stooopit idea on behalf of the City. They could of taken the dry, flat part of the park for the walkers and let us keep the DH area with the steep terrain and all the drop offs.

Anyway, we got a meeting on Sept. 8 to see if any of this can be salvaged but we need Freeride support with Sorba.

 

[eio]

Fluuuuuuuuuuuuushhhhhhhhhhh!
Right down the pooper.

I got to ride Ag once, and I think I've ridden Mansell 6x since I moved here.

What a shame.

 

[DVNT]

Fluuuuuuuuuuuuushhhhhhhhhhh!
Right down the pooper.

I got to ride Ag once, and I think I've ridden Mansell 6x since I moved here.

What a shame.

Well, there is something else in the works further north of mansell on 400. And this spot will be ALL OURS! Are you in the Ros/Alpha area?

 

[eio]

Well, there is something else in the works further north of mansell on 400. And this spot will be ALL OURS! Are you in the Ros/Alpha area?

Sort of. I'm in Kennesaw. Close enough.

If you've got a secret, let me in on it. :evil:

 

[DVNT]

Sort of. I'm in Kennesaw. Close enough.

If you've got a secret, let me in on it. :evil:

Not yet, but it's in the works

 

[bizutch]

and to think asheville/Buncombe Co. has PAID to develop to semi-urban mtb trail systems here.

 

[DVNT]

bizutch - Do you think that the Urban Assault Comp. helps? I know people in asheville are more bike friendly. But do you think the comp. brings more awareness to the community - therefore the local gov't is more willing to dish out cash?

Just wondering if that would help our situation as well, but their are a lot of thick rednecks down here. Atlanta is like an island in a sea of stupidity, go to far out and you'll drown in it.

 

[eio]

......but their are a lot of thick rednecks down here. Atlanta is like an island in a sea of stupidity, go to far out and you'll drown in it.

Wats yoo meen boy?? You gots a perty mouth......

Good analogy. Sad but true though.

 

[bizutch]

Best example is the new landfill area. The WNCBDA and BRBC (Western North Carolina Bicycle Dealers Association & Blue Ridge Bike Club) qualified for some sort of grant and did a fundraiser to get a ARSE load of equipment, including a DR Brush MOWER. They used the Eco-Buffer surrounding the landfill to develop the mountain bike park. THe county funded alot of it as part of a "best use" scenario, but the bike club funded some too. If you want details on how they accomplised it, I would email fred@pro-bikes.com or mike@libertybikes.com, the shop owners of those 2 shops. They were both MAJOR players in it's birth.

Granted local rednecks the county stole the land from had issues with it so they rode their 4 wheelers in there and stupid stuff....but it was mainly b/c one of the sherriff's deputies was a local yocal not enforcing anything. They've since addressed it are moving forward with more trail development there.

 

[biggins]

Best example is the new landfill area. The WNCBDA and BRBC (Western North Carolina Bicycle Dealers Association & Blue Ridge Bike Club) qualified for some sort of grant and did a fundraiser to get a ARSE load of equipment, including a DR Brush MOWER. They used the Eco-Buffer surrounding the landfill to develop the mountain bike park. THe county funded alot of it as part of a "best use" scenario, but the bike club funded some too. If you want details on how they accomplised it, I would email fred@pro-bikes.com or mike@libertybikes.com, the shop owners of those 2 shops. They were both MAJOR players in it's birth.

Granted local rednecks the county stole the land from had issues with it so they rode their 4 wheelers in there and stupid stuff....but it was mainly b/c one of the sherriff's deputies was a local yocal not enforcing anything. They've since addressed it are moving forward with more trail development there.

and hopefully some ill ass flowy trails with doubles and huge berms and maybe a stunt every once and again.

 

[cali4niabiker]

Have y'all thought about developing MTB park at a local park (i.e., Chattahoochee recreactional park off of I-285)? That way, ORV (ATV's, dirtbikes, and other motorized vehicles) entry will be enforced as opposed to buying/leasing a strip of land out in the countryside where enforcement will be a challenge. It is bound to be overrun by ATV's and dirtbikes once someone discovers it, thus spreading the word... and they will come in bunches.

A good model example of a trail that I went to a few years ago is in Concord, NC. I suggest looking into how the trail was maintained and run...

Here are some cues as to where the trail is. Nearby that mtb trial was some dirtbike/ATV trails and it was well enforced by posting the following: NO motorized vehicles allowed. You will be prosecuted with to the fullest extent of law. It has been a long time so I can't remember the name of the trail... it was an awesome trail that was uber well maintained and organized. Also, they required a small fee to park and ride the trail (it was around $2 to park & ride, if I can remember correctly). If any fellas know what I am talking about, its about a 15 min drive north of Davidson, NC on Main Street, then the road forks and you head towards Concord. It is literally about 1 to 2 miles off of I-85 and it is real close to a small airport (Concord airport, perhaps? ).

-Eric (CAbiker)

 

[DVNT]

Yeah, Soap Creek (i.e., Chattahoochee recreactional park off of I-285) is beat. I've seen a park ranger with a radar gun busting bikers for going over their speed limit. LAME!
That's what I'm afraid they'll do to Big Creek / Mansell.

There's stuff in the works though. Mansell isn't a total loss, we may just need to relocate everything and there are other places in the works. I'll find out more next wed. at our chapter meeting.

 

[krazydher1]

hey dude thats crazy that there gonna tear down the trails..this is jason, i ride a bb7 with monsters...maybe u know me..anyways where r the trail that r in the works? i live off exit 11. is the new trail gonna be near exit 13 or somethin..what ever u do make sure its not a no tresspassing zone. the forsyth cops are crazy...

 

[DVNT]

hey dude thats crazy that there gonna tear down the trails..this is jason, i ride a bb7 with monsters...maybe u know me..anyways where r the trail that r in the works? i live off exit 11. is the new trail gonna be near exit 13 or somethin..what ever u do make sure its not a no tresspassing zone. the forsyth cops are crazy...

I can't believe I'm still working this late....how sad.

anyway, it may not be as bad as i'm expecting, i just have a hard time believing that all the bulldozers and cement trucks are going to not wreck the whole place. I'll post again after next wednesdays meeting.

 

[cali4niabiker]

Yeah, Soap Creek (i.e., Chattahoochee recreactional park off of I-285) is beat. I've seen a park ranger with a radar gun busting bikers for going over their speed limit. LAME!
That's what I'm afraid they'll do to Big Creek / Mansell.

There's stuff in the works though. Mansell isn't a total loss, we may just need to relocate everything and there are other places in the works. I'll find out more next wed. at our chapter meeting.

radar guns!?!?!?! NO way!

I'd fly through CRP without any problems, but that was a good 5 - 6 years ago.

 

[DVNT]

ok, here is what the city wants to do with mansell. I got this from the cities website and add some mods.

Like I said before the trails will be CONCRETE! Imagine what the bulldozers and cement trucks will do.

 

[DVNT]

radar guns!?!?!?! NO way!

I'd fly through CRP without any problems, but that was a good 5 - 6 years ago.

Yeah, I talked to the ranger, he said that if they catch you riding on a restricted trail it's an instant 50 dollar ticket. If you can't pay on the spot they take your bike until you do. Then he said, "And I know how you guys like your bikes." and laughed! ink: ink: ink: