[Damn True]

This thing could be the cause of some really interesting events.

If he is convicted it sets a really wierd double standard. If a man can be convicted of murder for the death of an unborn child then it won't be long before a woman who gets an abortion is looked at in the same light.

That said, I don't think that he will be convicted. I think the prosecution will tank the case to ensure that the above mentioned dosen't happen.

 

[Silver]

I can't wait to hear God indicted on murder charges then, seeing as how up to half of pregnancies end in spontaneous abortion...

 

[Skookum]

interesting point nontheless. After a woman is beyond the decision of abortion, and there is obviously intent to have the baby i could see the logic in wanting to seek a second murder conviction...
But Silver's point is a sharp point as well. If anything i would assume that it's within the law and definately within a judges discretion to use it as a mitigating factor in increasing the severity of judgement in sentencing. Makes all parties happy then....
In other words kill a pregnant woman your doin the max or dyin.....

 

[BurlyShirley]

I dont think the Peterson case will set a new standard on that DT. I recall a dude here in TN getting a double vehicular homicide for killing a woman who was 9 months pregnant a few years ago. It wasnt a big deal on a national lever or anything either.
But, it doesnt matter. I dont think Scott Peterson did it anyway. No motive.

 

[Skookum]

But, it doesnt matter. I dont think Scott Peterson did it anyway. No motive.

They need to put you on t.v.

 

[BurlyShirley]

They need to put you on t.v.

I've been sayin' it. I've been sayin' it for ten damn years. Hadnt I been sayin' it Miguel?

 

[valve bouncer]

By that logic DT executioners or soldiers should be charged with murder every time they kill.

 

[BurlyShirley]

Do you guys even know about the Scott Peterson case over there?

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

By that logic DT executioners or soldiers should be charged with murder every time they kill.

yeah they should. but the world is full of contradictions.

so, the question here is in the logic of those who argue "unborn" (am amazed that word exists actually) killing is OK.

how "unborn" you gotta be so its not killing a "human being". like what if you are halfway out????? what if you just barely poked a finger out? are you unborn with no rights yet??

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

Do you guys even know about the Scott Peterson case over there?

hahaha, Scott Peterson´s case get more coverage on CNN-US and cnn-world than most countries in the world.

 

[valve bouncer]

Do you guys even know about the Scott Peterson case over there?

I try and avoid it. I get BBC and CNN. BBC headlines- 36 killed in Baghdad bombing, Sudan genocide worsens, Turkey to join EU. CNN headlines- Petersen having affair, Kobe gets off, Kerry has a bottle tan. Guess which channel I prefer to watch.

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

I try and avoid it. I get BBC and CNN. BBC headlines- 36 killed in Baghdad bombing, Sudan genocide worsens, Turkey to join EU. CNN headlines- Petersen having affair, Kobe gets off, Kerry has a bottle tan. Guess which channel I prefer to watch.

lol!!!! so true, though bbc is too insipid at times.
cnn finantial is OK for me. but i watch more the local cable news chanel.

 

[Changleen]

I try and avoid it. I get BBC and CNN. BBC headlines- 36 killed in Baghdad bombing, Sudan genocide worsens, Turkey to join EU. CNN headlines- Petersen having affair, Kobe gets off, Kerry has a bottle tan. Guess which channel I prefer to watch.

Word.

 

[Skookum]

i just thought about the benefits for counting a pregnant woman as two seperate people. They could vote twice, have to recieve two paychecks while working, get to ride in the carpool lane, i just don't know that sounds like it's making life way to easy for women.

 

[Hawkeye]

I think the logic is that the baby could live on it's own without any help from medicine after 8 months or something. Afterall her due date was like a week away when she was killed.

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

the date on which a baby can live without help is fuzzy, plus the definition of what means to live "without any help of medicine" is even fuzzier.

what when for example mankind could synthetically develop an embryo into a fetus, in vitroÇ

 

[ohio]

the date on which a baby can live without help is fuzzy,

So is the date at which a human becomes an adult (18 here in the US), but for certain laws it becomes necessary to define it. It's easiest to define a baby's life beginning at birth. But I think it's more correct to say 8 months, and the most accurate is going to differ for every mother and baby.

 

[genpowell71]

According to state guidelines, Laci's unborn child was a child. She was close to giving birth anyway. Are they prosecuting him for the child's murder? I gave up following the case when the prosecution started having issues with the Police witnesses again (I smell OJ)

I do agree that there needs to be federal guidelines for this. I cant actually believe that the state of California as liberal as they are wouldnt see Scott's unborn child as a victim here.

 

[Damn True]

According to state guidelines, Laci's unborn child was a child. She was close to giving birth anyway. Are they prosecuting him for the child's murder? I gave up following the case when the prosecution started having issues with the Police witnesses again (I smell OJ)

I do agree that there needs to be federal guidelines for this. I cant actually believe that the state of California as liberal as they are wouldnt see Scott's unborn child as a victim here.

I'm just sayin, I think the state may be intentionally tanking the prosecution because of the can-o-worms that will be opened in regard to abortion.

 

[valve bouncer]

I'm just sayin, I think the state may be intentionally tanking the prosecution because of the can-o-worms that will be opened in regard to abortion.

Are you back to the PD DT? God knows the frothers can do with some help.

 

[Damn True]

Not as a matter of policy.
I'm just fleshing out my conspiracy theroy on the Peterson thing, then I will get back to tin-foil hat making in private.

 

[valve bouncer]

Not as a matter of policy.
I'm just fleshing out my conspiracy theroy on the Peterson thing, then I will get back to tin-foil hat making in private.

Come on mate, admit it, you missed this place....you're among friends now.

 

[genpowell71]

Didnt you get the word about Roe v. Wade? Its going back to the supreme court soon

 

[valve bouncer]

So is the date at which a human becomes an adult (18 here in the US), but for certain laws it becomes necessary to define it. It's easiest to define a baby's life beginning at birth. But I think it's more correct to say 8 months, and the most accurate is going to differ for every mother and baby.

In most first world countries now survivablity if born after 26 weeks is 98%. I will stand corrected on that.

 

[genpowell71]

But thats the point about this. Some states are using 6 months, others 8, and still some 9. What would be so hard about making one FEDERAL guideline for the court systems to use.