scumbag Palestinian terrorists!
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Never.LordOpie said:
It will end when one side completly eliminates the other...
N8 said:
Nah it won't end there.... They will just find new targets.
Everyone concerned is far to stuck in that mindset.
Give it to Saddam. He brought Iraq under control, he could do the same here. :evil: Sometimes it takes a ruthless bloodthirsty dictator to keep the peace. 
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LordOpie said:I think Dave's right
I think these twisted, reject Palestinians and Israeli settlers just like killing
Fixed.
So now the israelies will retaliate with tanks and attack helicopters, and it continues. Someone has to many up and just end the cycle of violence.
No propoganda. You know full well that both sides are just as responsable for the nonsense going on over there.LordOpie said:I see the propoganda machine is on full blast today.
How about Palestine gets there crap together and stops the killing?
Innocent people really need to be left out of the killing.
Really now?Transcend said:
Would you agree that you've bought into the propoganda if you knew that it was a Palestinian pregnant woman and other innocent palestinians that were killed by palestinian terrorists?
The fvcked up Fatah is a terrorist organization and their current target is the Hamas.
difference between Isreal and palistine,.........hmmmm......umm.......
well.....I think indescriminate killing vs semi targeted killing.......... no that 's not it......hmmmmm, I'll have to get back to ya'll on that one.
well.....I think indescriminate killing vs semi targeted killing.......... no that 's not it......hmmmmm, I'll have to get back to ya'll on that one.
I don't care who was killed to be quite honest. If both sides would knock out the childish one upmanship, the problems could begin to be resolved. Until then, palestinians, hamas and the like will suicide bomb and the israelies will retaliate with armor and aircraft. The cycle will continue until one side says enough is enough.LordOpie said:
Opie I think we are all getting a bit confused here..... Transend (and myself) were refering to the overall situation inregard to the region (Israel/Palestine), and your talking about the one incident (gun fire in Gaza) yeah?
Or at least that's how it looks to me at the moment??
Or at least that's how it looks to me at the moment??
that would be the side that loses. Have you ever seen a fight were the person of advantage just stops in the middle of the fight? Have you ever seen a war where the nation on the offense just says " ah screw it, we quit guys, cut it out." Ain't gonna happen. There can be no resolution till one side is defeated, especially when dealing with arabs who see such actions as weakness and consider it urespectable. Personally I just don't see them all singin Cumbaya any time soon.Transcend said:
It's not one incident. Fatah kills ANYone who disagrees with them. That's the point. Fatah has to be neutralized. Not necessarily destroyed.
And y'all obviously didn't read the article
And I'm not the least bit surprised that Transcend didn't acknowledge his prejudice of the situation in Gaza. A civil war is brewing that has nothing to do with Israel and lots of innocent people (palestinians) will be killed. Sad that no one's gonna try to stop it.
And y'all obviously didn't read the article
And I'm not the least bit surprised that Transcend didn't acknowledge his prejudice of the situation in Gaza. A civil war is brewing that has nothing to do with Israel and lots of innocent people (palestinians) will be killed. Sad that no one's gonna try to stop it.
Who got more done: MLK or Malcolm X?
But could either one have got anything done without the other?Silver said:
Right, just like the cuban missile crisis. Oh wait...noname said:
When people pull their heads out of their collective asses, problems can be resolved. Neither side in this debacle is in a position of power, and both see their moves as defensive.
opie: what is funny is i have absolutely zero bias towards the situation. I think both sides are equally retarded. Much of the area they are fighting over is barren desert that anywhere else on the planet, people would be itching to get rid of for a tax credit.
The palestinians want their land back, and preach violence to do it. The Israelies want land, period, and use their close ties to the West to arm themselves to the teeth to do so. Both sides spiraled into a pattern of destruction and mindless violence ages ago. Now they just hate each other for the purpose of hating each other. Half the time they don't even know why, or the children on both sides are fed mindless drivel.
The only ones with a bias are those of you preaching that one side or the other is more to blame. The faster you realize it (and they realize it) the faster the situation can be resolved.
and this bears what level of relevence to people actively killing each other? There's a huge difference between two nations locked in an international power struggle and two populations actively killing each other for whatever reason. To people in the middle east it is a covenant of their faith. There really isn't any cold, rational calculating being done on their behalf. They can't be negotiated with. Western diplomats have tried, Isrealis have tried. Isreal isn't fighting a government, they thought they had peace with the previous government but that didn't matter did it? Now we have differing factions killing each other. You tell me who's worse, people who willingly kill anyone, or people who at least make an effort to try and only kill their assailants? There will always be colateral damage in conflicts, but at least one side tries to limit it. Anyway, before I get off on a rant...............Transcend said:
that doesnt make much sense.Transcend said:
your analogy rests on the assumption people who would want to get rid of barren desert, have something else.
if barren desert (and i wouldnt really call barren specially jerusalem, the biggest deal breaker in camp david 2000) is all you got, is worth everything to you.
hmmm.. did that also happen when the west bank was part of jordan, and gaza part of egypt?? an important % of the palestinian refugees are inmigrants and sons of egyptian, syrian and jordanian inmigrants. and sabras are in the millions now. now you have 2 people under due jus soli. is there a group you can call more "owner" of the land?
i dont think you can legitimately call "i want my land back" after you reject a partition plan, start an all out war and loose.
the 1st camp david seems counter-intituive. if israel priority was to gain land, it wouldnt have returned the sinai in exchange of peace and normal diplomatic relations.
i dont reallly believe there is nationwide instituionalized genuine hate in israel toward palestineans, at least not at the same rate the palestineans hate the israelis. and i also dont believe the hate on both sides is fueled by the same reasons.
Thank the Hamas sanctions for empowering FATAH.LordOpie said:
As good a place as any for this joke I guess....... Wonder how long before a mod deletes it? 
A man goes into an adult entertainment shop and asks the assistant for an inflatable doll.
"Would you like male of female?"
"Female, please."
"Would you like Black, or White?"
"White, Please."
"Would you like Christian or Muslim?"
This question confused the man ... and he replied,
"What has the religion got to do with it? It's an inflatable doll!"
"Well," explained the assistant, "The Muslim one blows itself up. 
A man goes into an adult entertainment shop and asks the assistant for an inflatable doll.
"Would you like male of female?"
"Female, please."
"Would you like Black, or White?"
"White, Please."
"Would you like Christian or Muslim?"
This question confused the man ... and he replied,
"What has the religion got to do with it? It's an inflatable doll!"
"Well," explained the assistant, "The Muslim one blows itself up.
would the area be safer, for both sides, with a wall ot without a wall?Toshi said:the palestinians just need to realize that building a wall highly reminiscent of those in concentration camps is really a gesture of peace from the israelis...
Hahahahaa!!! That's good!DaveW said:As good a place as any for this joke I guess....... Wonder how long before a mod deletes it?
*snip*
I'd have to say that the area would be safer with the wall. Cause then, no matter who you are, you can't run from the people trying to kill you. It would expedite matters the the nth degree. Then we could get on with all our lives.ALEXIS_DH said:
It would be nice if it didn't cut them off from their farmland and water supplys.....ALEXIS_DH said:
that depends on whether the wall breeds more lasting animosity (and in turn, terrorist acts) than it prevents in the short term. my answer would be that it'll do more harm than good and will extend the conflict for many more bloody generations.ALEXIS_DH said:
It seems to me that the Israelis have tried on at least a couple of occasions to honor a truce. It seems that the the hostilities were reinitiated by the Palestinians or some faction claiming to represent Palestinians. It seems that the anti-Israeli terrorists go out of their way to target civilians in non-military sites. What kind of reaction do they hope to provoke by this? I believe that Hamas is on record as having the goal of wiping Israel from the face of the earth. I can't defend some of the Israeli actions in this neverending strife, but it seems to me that for them to unilaterally stop the fight would be a lot like trying to safely let go of a rattlesnake while locked naked in a phone booth.
it seems to me that whenever a truce is struck the Isrealis break it first by conducting raids on gaza or the west bank first, then as the palestinians retaliate after that claim that the palistineians broke the truce....... this occurs all to often.
DaveW said:
also keep in mind that the israeli powers-that-be are well aware of the power of american public opinion (at least in the sense that favorable public opinion is more likely to keep the ridiculous amount of aid at its current level), and use the "but... we're innocent!" card with regularity.
word on the street.....it was.....DaveW said:As good a place as any for this joke I guess....... Wonder how long before a mod deletes it?
A man goes into an adult entertainment shop and asks the assistant for an inflatable doll.
"Would you like male of female?"
"Female, please."
"Would you like Black, or White?"
"White, Please."
"Would you like Christian or Muslim?"
This question confused the man ... and he replied,
"What has the religion got to do with it? It's an inflatable doll!"
"Well," explained the assistant, "The Muslim one blows itself up.
that's why you read reports about the issue from multiple sources, and assume the consensus view is closer to the truth than the outliers:BeerDemon said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5184806.stm
thelink said:
stevew said:word on the street.....it was.....
hehe, you said lezbo...
So let's say for instance that the KKK kidnaps an Isreali and takes him to their camp here in the states. Isreal wants him back and decides to start bombing US cities until he is returned. Is that OK?
the relationship between the kkk and the US and israel, and the relationship between the hezbollah and israel is not the same.peter6061 said: