all i've learned from this thread is that mandown is an extremely cynical asshole who is about 300 years old
Service Dogs, Medical Marijuana, and other overused security blankets
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This is why we can't have nice things.
Parking structure automated pay kiosks. Fuuuu. Every wall of the structure is plastered with signs saying "please pay at this machine before you leave; exit gate is unattended." The idea is that you pay at the kiosk and then slide the paid/validated ticket through at the exit gate. I'm forever stuck in an exit line, waiting for someone to do their payment at the gate. Exceptionally infuriating when I'm in the "monthly" line with my key card, and some tourist ahead of me is calling the front desk for help because his Czechoslovakian Diners Club card isn't working, and they have to send a foot soldier out from HQ to assist with the liberation of their rental car from the wooden arm of doom, and allow the dong shed level pressure build up of daily drivers to burst through, like a spider in a garden, before the fastest light in the west changes colors like a chameleon on crystal and we are all stuck waiting for another cycle on the light.
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I think a dong shed is what my pervy neighbor built.
I have to admit, the last time we were in LA was the first time I'd ever seen those things. A tad counter intuitive, and of course I forgot to pay at the stupid kiosk thing until we got to the car, so I had to walk back, but if I can figure it out, it can't be that hard.
Fucking groups of people who decide to walk 5 wide down sidewalks or crowded places.
Hey, we are all equal, but clearly superior to everyone else because we ain't getting out of anyone's way.
Hey, we are all equal, but clearly superior to everyone else because we ain't getting out of anyone's way.
They are a bit unusual if you aren't used to seeing them. I see them all the time so I expect them everywhere. I heard about a great fiasco my uncle had in Germany with an early version of these. The guy ahead of him took too long to get from the kiosk to the gate, so the gate wouldn't open. By the time a human came to sort it out, a huge line developed. As it turns out, each driver's ticket was expiring as the delay got sorted, and the line got continually longer, so the problem just compounded until everybody lost their minds.
So that's why I see dudes in skinsuits with DH wide bars on 29ers riding the greenway. Kind of like brush guards or cattle pushers for your bike I suppose.
Walk into them or just stop and stand there. I channel my inner NYC asshole (the persona, not the actual bunghole) in such situations.
People in camouflage. No, I don't mean active service members in issued BDU's, I mean you, Mr. 400+lbs obese guy in early 80's pattern. It does not make me think you're a badass. It makes me think I'm about to get squished by West Germany.
I go to WalMart when I need to buy oil and every time I go in there, I feel so overdressed. I sh!t you not, everyone in there has at least one article of Mossy Oak camo on. It might be a shirt, jacket, hat, boots, or it might be head to toe. At least one member of each family, couples in matching camo, it's crazy. It's times like that I hate wear I live.
Lifted trucks. SUV's. Other bro-mobiles.
That lift kit on your chromed out grocery getter has off-road origins, so it helps with the speed bumps in the parking lot. Especially ironic when you park in a handi spot and need a ladder to get in or out. There's nothing sporty nor utilitarian about your truck shaped minivan. Sure, once a month you *could* take the whole rug rat sports ball squad to the basketball field, but you don't. The rest of the time you just cock block the the parallel parking public.
That lift kit on your chromed out grocery getter has off-road origins, so it helps with the speed bumps in the parking lot. Especially ironic when you park in a handi spot and need a ladder to get in or out. There's nothing sporty nor utilitarian about your truck shaped minivan. Sure, once a month you *could* take the whole rug rat sports ball squad to the basketball field, but you don't. The rest of the time you just cock block the the parallel parking public.
Camping trailers.
Ha, I thought of this thread this weekend. We were at the movies and after it was over, I noticed a couple, both belonging to the front butt party, waddling down the aisle with two obese corgis with service dog vests on. They must have been milk dud retrievers.
People who climb with their helmets strapped to their packs because it is hot, but wear their flat brims when pedaling.
Got to maintain that Enduro look.
Got to maintain that Enduro look.
Why do I have a $750 phone with 18 more payments ? It's useful and all, but fuck that's a chunk of change.
I used to work as a Service Animal Access Specialist, helping people with disabilities with access issues. I recall working with one woman who was denied access on the bus because of her service dog. The ADA states that a person with a service dog does not have to state what her or his disability is, or what the dog does to assist. A business owner can only ask if the dog is a service dog, and if so, they cannot discriminate. A service dog is considered an assistive device, similar to a cane or a hearing aid.
As some stated above, many disabilities are not visible, such as hearing impairments, seizure disorders, and mental health disorders. While having a service dog may be 'trendy' in LA, it doesn't discount the fact that they are not helpful to many people. If the dog appears to be treated like a pet, that's great! I don't think a dog should be a slave and used just to help a person with a disability; it's a two-way street of care.
Sounds like the gripe around service dogs is mostly about people taking advantage of systems or benefits...which pisses most people off, especially those who choose to work hard and play by (most of) the rules. Of course, if the US were not afraid of dogs, we would allow them into our shops and restaurants without issue, similar to other developed countries. I like the rule of "only well behaved animals - including human animals - allowed." Aren't there bigger things we can focus on vs. taking a dog into a store? That's why I love VT; I've not yet been denied access into a shop with my dog (I always ask permission if I've not been in the store before). It's pretty cool to come out of a dressing room in a high end clothing shop with my dog---that gets lots of strange looks! I don't present her as a service dog, but she is a certified therapy dog. I find that most people don't know the difference.
As some stated above, many disabilities are not visible, such as hearing impairments, seizure disorders, and mental health disorders. While having a service dog may be 'trendy' in LA, it doesn't discount the fact that they are not helpful to many people. If the dog appears to be treated like a pet, that's great! I don't think a dog should be a slave and used just to help a person with a disability; it's a two-way street of care.
Sounds like the gripe around service dogs is mostly about people taking advantage of systems or benefits...which pisses most people off, especially those who choose to work hard and play by (most of) the rules. Of course, if the US were not afraid of dogs, we would allow them into our shops and restaurants without issue, similar to other developed countries. I like the rule of "only well behaved animals - including human animals - allowed." Aren't there bigger things we can focus on vs. taking a dog into a store? That's why I love VT; I've not yet been denied access into a shop with my dog (I always ask permission if I've not been in the store before). It's pretty cool to come out of a dressing room in a high end clothing shop with my dog---that gets lots of strange looks! I don't present her as a service dog, but she is a certified therapy dog. I find that most people don't know the difference.
Uh yea. I'm sure everyone loves you toting your dog around like a purse. Or in a purse. Or in a dog stroller. Anywho....nail on head...but as an example of what the entire thread is mainly about.
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No. No it is not.
Edit... As someone who has been carted around in a wheelchair, used a walker, needed a cane, and worn adult diapers as a grown man to avoid pissing on the floor, I've never thought it was "cool" that I needed my adaptive devices to do activities of daily life. You don't get to argue that a service dog is the equivalent of those things, and then talk about how cool it is that you have one when you walk out of the dandy shop.
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My first wife had a Rottie as a service dog. Because we had relocated to Portland, they agreed to let me train her as long as she met all the requirements. She was the first Rottie service certified for the disabled and was such an amazing dog. I loved being able to take her anywhere, usually off lead with her saddle bags or her vest on.
My first wife has a very obvious disability and while Tori did help, she wasn't necessary, we totally used it as an excuse to be able to bring our dog. Unfortunately after Tori died, my ex kept the vest and calmed every dog she had after that was certified and none were even trained. I have heard stories about a pit bull she had for a while she claimed to be a service dog.
My first wife has a very obvious disability and while Tori did help, she wasn't necessary, we totally used it as an excuse to be able to bring our dog. Unfortunately after Tori died, my ex kept the vest and calmed every dog she had after that was certified and none were even trained. I have heard stories about a pit bull she had for a while she claimed to be a service dog.
Last week my daughter and I were at moes sitting on the patio eating the family next to us had a dog with them (springer spaniel) it sat with its nose almost touching our table wimpering and watching us eat every bit of our food
My daughter begged me to keep my stupid mouth closed and I did because I respect her
I don't go anywhere and pay to eat, watch a show, a festival or whatever to be annoyed by someone's pet whos master is obviously more rude than their pet because they allowed their dog to sit there begging to a stranger for 20 minutes
My daughter begged me to keep my stupid mouth closed and I did because I respect her
I don't go anywhere and pay to eat, watch a show, a festival or whatever to be annoyed by someone's pet whos master is obviously more rude than their pet because they allowed their dog to sit there begging to a stranger for 20 minutes
FTFY.
What Gout meds are you on ? I take allopurinol not for Gout , but for Kidney stones.
Wife and I were going in to the local grocery to get our ticket of hope (lottery), and noticed a truck parked perpendicular to 2 spots, with the guy waiting. At first thought it was rude to take the spots we could've parked in, then noticed a younger girl/his daughter leaving another car/with mom(?) and running to his. Felt bad at first, thinking we were going to say something to him for his rudeness, then decided his daughter is top priority, so he gets a hall pass.....
i was on that for a few years until I was told it can cause worse damage than it is trying to prevent.
Some clarification, to Kazix and Mandown:
Kazix: I don't "tote" my dog around...she accompanies me. I am very mindful of her behavior and how others react to her. When we shop, I keep her near me and don't allow her near others unless they obviously welcome it. I DO NOT present her as a service dog. Even though she's a certified therapy dog, she is only a therapy dog when she has her bandana on and we are volunteering. The reason I like coming out of a high end clothing shop dressing room with my dog is because I think it's ridiculous that well-behaved dogs can't accompany humans in public places in this country with more ease.
Mandown: I'm not arguing that a service dog is the equivalent as adaptive devices, the federal government is in the Americans with Disabilities Act. I do not have a service dog, I have a pet.
Kazix: I don't "tote" my dog around...she accompanies me. I am very mindful of her behavior and how others react to her. When we shop, I keep her near me and don't allow her near others unless they obviously welcome it. I DO NOT present her as a service dog. Even though she's a certified therapy dog, she is only a therapy dog when she has her bandana on and we are volunteering. The reason I like coming out of a high end clothing shop dressing room with my dog is because I think it's ridiculous that well-behaved dogs can't accompany humans in public places in this country with more ease.
Mandown: I'm not arguing that a service dog is the equivalent as adaptive devices, the federal government is in the Americans with Disabilities Act. I do not have a service dog, I have a pet.
Well it's a good thing I'm not trying to "make a case." Was just trying to explain, originally, the definition of a service dog to give some context to the thread, as it seemed like there was some confusion. That morphed into the fact that I like dogs, have a dog, and don't understand this country's fear of non-human animals. But it doesn't make any sense to try to converse with people who just wanna fight or attack....
It's not a fear, it's being ridiculous that you feel the need to take your dog everywhere. What exactly is the reason(s), you feel you need to take your dog to the mall? or to dinner? or to the movies? or to a basketball game? or whatever it may be that is not for the direct benefit of the dog, ie the dog beach or park.
See also 'certified therapy dog'. Ridiculous that's even a thing.
BTW...I actually love dogs. I think they are awesome. To take camping, or hiking or for a bike ride or walk. But I don't need to take my dog to the mall to pick out Louis Vuitton to laugh at how ridiculous everyone thinks we are 'cause they just don't 'get it'.
See also 'certified therapy dog'. Ridiculous that's even a thing.
BTW...I actually love dogs. I think they are awesome. To take camping, or hiking or for a bike ride or walk. But I don't need to take my dog to the mall to pick out Louis Vuitton to laugh at how ridiculous everyone thinks we are 'cause they just don't 'get it'.
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