severly misinformed
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I wrote to Sheldon asking him if it was okay to use a hammer and block of wood to press in a headset. He said it was fine if I hated my bike.
Maybe you should look up the definition of "infer"loco said:
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OK - so maybe I do. However, I never give evidence for my ramblings.binary visions said:Maybe you should look up the definition of "infer"
To conclude from evidence or premises.
Oh, I've read them...loco said:
They read like this
And this :mumble:
And this
I'm trying to figure out where you think I'm pulling apart your psyche. On second thought, nevermind. Trying to understand your postings is generally a waste of time since they rarely make sense.
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BITCH!!!!!! :nuts:riderx said:Oh, I've read them...
They read like this
And this :mumble:
And this
I'm trying to figure out where you think I'm pulling apart your psyche. On second thought, nevermind. Trying to understand your postings is generally a waste of time since they rarely make sense.
Thanks for noting that they 'sometimes' make sense.
Is Sheldon a nickname or does he spell it with a 'c'? Regardless, nice to C. Everett Koop again. He can join the bandwagon of pols who are now into biking.stosh said:Dude, you're messing with this guy
Actually, I'd say loco is more of a month/day & military time combo clock. That is, only right once a year...riderx said:
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I've got to give Sheldon credit - *I* didn't read past the third line in bunny's pitiful attempt at communication....... WTF was that, anyway?
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AHAHAHAHAHAH! That was fackin FUNNY dude!
I think it was really cool of Sheldon to answer the way he did...he was cool about it...he easily coulda been a dick like a lot of people...
AHA! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!riderx said:Oh, I've read them...
They read like this
And this :mumble:
And this
I'm trying to figure out where you think I'm pulling apart your psyche. On second thought, nevermind. Trying to understand your postings is generally a waste of time since they rarely make sense.
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And how exactly is this a sport and XC isn't?
There are TONS of XC races. Also, not all DH'rs race.
That's just rhetoric. He's just a grouch who wants to call any gravity-related/lift-or-shuttle-assisted riding/sport/recreation "lazy." It's just how he is, and nothing's going to change that.-BB- said:And how exactly is this a sport and XC isn't?
There are TONS of XC races. Also, not all DH'rs race.
You mean you don't know people like this? Come on, you know tons of them, and they're not going to change.
He still knows a hell of a lot about bikes, and I frankly was impressed by the take-it-or-leave-it tone of his response. I'd expected something more opinionated and critical (although I'm suprised he responded at all).
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I don't know about vague. I used his site to lace up my first set of wheels. Except for a time when I double flatted when I hit a pothole with a fixed gear I haven't had to put the wheels in a truing stand and I have over 3k miles on them. Pretty good instructions this dude gives out.loco said:Sheldon Brown is still a weird cat. I don't care how well he can build a wheel or a single speed. He is a rambler just like lovebunny was. His instructions are so vague sometimes, it appears he is covering up the lack of knowledge with ramblings.
That being said, lovebunny should find someone else in cycling to pick on, like lance maybe.
Also, to those who are saying he hates DH and favors XC, you missed his point. The guy rides because he enjoys riding, he isn't a racer and he just seems to ride what he likes to ride. I chalk him up as one of the many crazy old dudes I've met in the bike industry(though I haven't met Sheldon, just asked questions through email) who happens to have a deep passion for the idea of riding a bicycle.
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Well, I have been known to be confused.ito said:
I know Sheldon Pesonally. and you have to understand he has been in the Buisness for over 30+ Years . He may see it as lasting 10 -15 years ( if things like Big bear Keep Happening ) but that is how he looks at it.
But you want to Bet if you brought him a DH Bike to work on it would work Better than it ever had.
But here Is a Picture from My newyears Day ride.
there is my son and right behind him ( who he had been talking to, before he turned for the picturte ) in the White Jersey Is Sheldon
But you want to Bet if you brought him a DH Bike to work on it would work Better than it ever had.
But here Is a Picture from My newyears Day ride.
there is my son and right behind him ( who he had been talking to, before he turned for the picturte ) in the White Jersey Is Sheldon
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Sheldon spent 45 minutes trying to understand WTF lovebunny was talking about. Like S.S., I gave up after three sentences....or should I say sentence fragments.
"A dude"lovebunny said:
AhaaahahhahahahaEcho said:Haha lovebunny just got pwn3d by a bicycle legend
NOW who's "severely misinformed"
Oh, there are a few more of us about, he's just more dedicated.MMcG said:
I think Sheldon's being silly making a distinction around downhill. My first ride down Snake Mountain was on a Puegeot UO-8, dropped bars, 27" wheels, skinny tires. Likewise, my first month or so of singletrack riding was on a touring bike, and I throw the Bob on the Joker to pedal into town to buy lawnmower gas.
If it has pedals, it's worth trying in any terrain. Purists of any flavor miss out on a lot.
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ok guys sorry i cant form any complete sentences and that i dont know who sheldon brown is. but it doesnt seem like too much of a legend to me if he is so closed minded to other aspects of biking.
Do your homework, noob.lovebunny said:
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I actually responded to his post in the beginners forum saying basically the same thing as you, but more coherently. My opinion is that if it's got wheels and pedals it's a bike, the terrain you ride over doesn't make a bike any less of a bike, fine tuning a bike for a specific terrain doesn't change the fact that it's still a bike. He respectfully disagreed. From his screen name I'd have never guessed he's Sheldon Brown. I guess I join the ranks of Lovebunny as one who was p0wn3d by A close minded old coot. I've also had disagreements with Chris King so I guess I'm anti-biking or something.lovebunny said:
Im actually with lovebunny and kornphlake on this one. I dont really give a crap who sheldon brown is or how long he's been working on bikes, in this matter he is just blatantly and obviously wrong. Downhill biking is a form of motorcycling?? That crap shouldn't even be dignified with a response, and is something I would expect from a 16 year old XC geek with a head injury. I once had someone who has been riding bikes since before mountain bikes existed tell me that dh racing would be better if they went back to hardtails. One day I may become grouchy and obsolete too (I already hate hardtails with dual crowns ), and I hope someone will have the balls to tell me when I'm wrong regardless of how long I've been around.
), and I hope someone will have the balls to tell me when I'm wrong regardless of how long I've been around.
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you tell em Willam.TheInedibleHulk said:
OK we have determined that lovebunny is not capable of comprehending what Mr. Brown is saying. But I'm surprised that Kornphlake and Hulk missed it so thoroughly. Did you guys even read the email at the beginning of this thread? Did you look at the discussion in the beginner's forum? Here's a hint: Sheldon Brown did not post on Ridemonkey. But if he did, he would be entitled to his opinion.
I respect the guys opinion, and he does have a point.
He's not just saying DH'ing isn't a sport, he's saying "cycling" isn't a sport. That goes for XC and Road as well.
Do you think the people in Asia riding their bikes around everday think what they do is a sport? People race cars, that's a sport, I drive a car too, but I don't consider me driving a car a sport.
It all depends on where you're coming from.
He's not just saying DH'ing isn't a sport, he's saying "cycling" isn't a sport. That goes for XC and Road as well.
Do you think the people in Asia riding their bikes around everday think what they do is a sport? People race cars, that's a sport, I drive a car too, but I don't consider me driving a car a sport.
It all depends on where you're coming from.
I think people are getting too worked up over an insult. Lemme guess, you guys stare people down in bars, too. What he said might be ignorant, but it's also kind of funny that he'd say it that way. Just take it as a humorous jibe, the kind you might share with your brother who's a roadie. Make fun of his spandex or his tape-covered helmet, or just don't spend your lives stewing over what some geezer thinks of you and your sport. Sheldon is a cycling legend, for sure, and I for one respect him for that...but I'm not insulted that he thinks it's a brand of motorcycling. That's just stupid. Again, I say to Sheldon...go tell Hermann Maier that he's snowmobiling. Then I hope I get on with my life, or maybe get to go for a ride with the dude sometime.
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I base my comments on the quote posted in the beginners forum:
Tell me he's not saying that downhilling is a variant of motorcycle racing in his opinion. I find that to be a rediculous and close minded opinion. The email response from Mr. Brown didn't address the reasoning behind calling mountain biking a motorsport, of course neither did Lovebunny's email. I find the above quote from Sheldon's website to be misguided and close minded, and that's my opinion. If I were to say XC riding is more like driving a car than mountain biking, plenty of people here would call me close minded. Why should Sheldon be exempt from having his opinions criticized like the rest of us?
You are right though, I did misread the original post, I had thought that Lovebunny sent the email to UltraViolet and he responded as Sheldon Brown. Add me to the list of people owned by UltraViolet and take me off of Sheldon's list.
I suppose the fact that he stated that it was just his opinion, and everyone is entitled to theirs, just sounds a little more reasonable than "he's a closed minded old coot".Kornphlake said:
I hope that wasn't me. Although I am grouchy because I'm obsolete.TheInedibleHulk said:
It was Jay Murphy, and did you ever buy a tig welder btw?
Hah, Murph. No TIG for me yet. I'm going to wait until I buy a house before I burn my first one down. With any luck, Heather and I will be able to buy when we move to Portland.TheInedibleHulk said: