Spend $795 on bartending school or not? Looking to earn some extra cash and get out of an office chair and away from a computer.
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Well I didn't get to respond...
If it is something you want to do, do it. I would ask around and speak with bartenders. I have no idea if the $800 is a fair charge. I guess it depends on the instruction.....what does the class offer? How long? any details?
If it is something you want to do, do it. I would ask around and speak with bartenders. I have no idea if the $800 is a fair charge. I guess it depends on the instruction.....what does the class offer? How long? any details?
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Most every bartender I know is self taught and it certainly is not a requisite at most bars.
If you want to be a bartender go to a place and ask, seriously! Why pay $800 to make money now!
Do you have a bartender guide? They are cheap and handy!
If you want to be a bartender go to a place and ask, seriously! Why pay $800 to make money now!
Do you have a bartender guide? They are cheap and handy!
RhinofromWA said:Well I didn't get to respond...
If it is something you want to do, do it. I would ask around and speak with bartenders. I have no idea if the $800 is a fair charge. I guess it depends on the instruction.....what does the class offer? How long? any details?
The class is actually 20% off till Sept. It's American/Professional Bartenders Schools established in Chicago in 1951.
Here is their website: http://www.773bartend.com/
The 60 hours can be taken in 1, 2,3 or 6 weeks. They allow you to stay as long as you like, until YOU are comfortable.
Investment includes:
Reg Fee
Tuition
Prof. Bartenders Manual
Secrets of Finding a Job Manual
Handouts
Supplies
Alcohol Awareness Certification
Professional Bartenders Certification
Unlimited Personalized Placement Assistance
Guaranteed Learning
Additional Practice Time at NO extra cost if needed
Subjects Taught:
Mixology
Bar Set-up
Liquor, wines, beers their history and uses
Personal Presentation and etiquette
Interview Techniques
Customer service
Industry laws
Health and Safety procedures
Checks, cash and credit card handling on touch key computerized registers
Dealing with real-life situations
B.A.S.S.E.T. alcohol awareness certification
Techniques on turning quarters into dollars
Secrets of finding a job
Real ingredients used in some lessons
Real draft beer dispensing
Flair bartending
Its a great way to meet chicks
I have Charles Schumann's American Bar ...book. I just don't know what a lot of the requirements would be to work in a bar downtown where I want to work...and I don't want to lie...because I have no professional bartending or even serving experience. Aparently the alcohol awarenet certification is to become a requirement in the next 4 months also.Zark said:
I tried to get a bartending job last Summer, with no luck. Almost none of the bartenders I talked to went to a school, and told me it was a waste of $$$. They all started by waiting tables, and eventually you get your chance to bartend. That's what I was told by managers as well in the few interviews I had. Have to start as a waiter.
The few bartending schools I looked at say they assist you in finding a job, and have ties to however many restaurants, etc. I wonder how successful that is.
The few bartending schools I looked at say they assist you in finding a job, and have ties to however many restaurants, etc. I wonder how successful that is.
Hmm...I did some bartending in college and didn't have to take the class, but that was a college town. I think you should just go to a local bar and ask what the requirements are before shelling out all that $$$.
That's the thing. I'm not looking to get a bartending job at a place where they serve food. Want to get a job either at a night club, or a regular old bar. I have a local watering hole just about a block and 1/2 from my house (total hole in the wall), but according to the lady I spoke to today at the school. Des Plaines (where I live) requires the Alcohol Awareness Certification. Chicago still doesn't, but most of the surrounding towns/citys do. Chicago is supposed to start enforcing it within 4 months though. I don't have the time to be a waiter, as I already have a job. I'm just looking to do this part-time and figure out the best way to become a bartender ASAP.fonseca said:
Personally, i would go for it, bartending is just a good skill to know, even if you arent going to be a bartender for long...you can make a decent amount of flow as well, just dont make a career out of it, a chick I dated for a bit is a bartender and she gets frustrated as hell, tells me she is quiting everyday but the cash is to good to do so.
I thought you were going to spend $795 on a bartending STOOL.....!!!
Said to myself, "Dmn, this guy really wants this stool, what a nut job. Wonder where he is ordering it from?"
Said to myself, "Dmn, this guy really wants this stool, what a nut job. Wonder where he is ordering it from?"
This manual is probably one page. At least it should be. The page should read:Bonk said:
"If you have a uterus, they should be accompanied by C cups or larger and your @ss should fit in here ||"
"If you don't have a uterus, you should know the manager of the establishment"
...it isn't easy getting a job. In a city anyway. Which is the only place you'll make money.
I took a class a while back, am a decent looking guy
ink: (which is important), And couldn't find a job anywhere. Until I happened across a VFW type gig. I barely made a dime and got so depressed just watching old men slowly dieing on those barstools.
MudGrrl said:
i thought it said bartending tool for second. im thinking what in the hell you could need for a home bar that would cost 800 bucks.
Word! Hot waitress chicks mainly.Brian HCM#1 said:Its a great way to meet chicks
Do it dude. Gotta go for your dreams, and computers is not my dream. I'm seriously thinking of getting into the concrete repair business and getting out of computers. It's a risk for me, but I gotta do it. Office work is killing me. My brain and my back. I'M OUT. Seriously.
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Bwaaaaahahahahaha. You're a DBA. That money is like crack cocaine........Knuckleslammer said:
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SkaredShtles said:Bwaaaaahahahahaha. You're a DBA. That money is like crack cocaine........
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Ain't about the money man when you think about killing yourself on a daily basis.
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Suuuuuuuuuure......... I think death is underrated, myself.Knuckleslammer said:
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........aaaaannnnd my thread has derailed...........by someone who didn't even bother to vote.
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Wooohooo!Bonk said:
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SkaredShtles said:Wooohooo!
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Oh sheit, I was supposed to vote?
so now even bartenders are like MCSE's ha?
JHFC
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First thing you need to do is make me a Manhattan.
So you're saying go learn how to?Yossarian said:
I think a school might be a waste of time. just buy the same Mr. Boston's book that is behind every bar in the country. Just make my manhattan first.
I think you will find that most drinks served in a bar are pretty self exlpanatory, Gin & tonic, jack & coke, blah blah blah, especially if you want to work in a bar bar, not a club.
I think you will find that most drinks served in a bar are pretty self exlpanatory, Gin & tonic, jack & coke, blah blah blah, especially if you want to work in a bar bar, not a club.
Ooo, Ooo, Ooo....me too! I should have one right now...Yossarian said:
TreeSaw said:Ooo, Ooo, Ooo....me too! I should have one right now...
We shall drink together then. I'll buy the first round.
Barkeep, my friend wants one too. and put an extra cherry in there.
Bartending school is a waste of money. I don't know any bar manager who will hire a new "bartending school grad" right off the bat as a bartender. As a barback, you'll learn a lot more than in any class. Besides, it's more than just pouring drinks, it's learning how to communicate while you do it, how to manage your space in a busy crowd scene, how to select who gets the next drink when there is a stack up 4 people deep, how to handle an irate drunk, etc...
Bartending is great fun, and can be pretty lucrative. I have my day job and it pays all the big bills, but I bartend one night a week and it makes me enough cash to have all the toys I want (see new V10 thread ). So don't abandon the idea of being a bartender, just save that $800 and go get a job as a bar back, server, or bouncer/doorman.
Bartending is great fun, and can be pretty lucrative. I have my day job and it pays all the big bills, but I bartend one night a week and it makes me enough cash to have all the toys I want (see new V10 thread
). So don't abandon the idea of being a bartender, just save that $800 and go get a job as a bar back, server, or bouncer/doorman.
Just went to The Beakon Bar & Grill by my house and asked the bartender what the requirements were for a bartending job there. Looked at me funny and said, "Requirements? We don't have any requirements. We like to train them ourselves. Do you want an application?". So I filled one out. Sure it's a suburban bar full of what appeared ro be older contract workers...but while I sa there and filled out the app., I'd say he pulled in probably 15-20 in tips. Guess you've gotta start somewhere.El Jefe said:Bartending school is a waste of money. I don't know any bar manager who will hire a new "bartending school grad" right off the bat as a bartender. As a barback, you'll learn a lot more than in any class. Besides, it's more than just pouring drinks, it's learning how to communicate while you do it, how to manage your space in a busy crowd scene, how to select who gets the next drink when there is a stack up 4 people deep, how to handle an irate drunk, etc...
Bartending is great fun, and can be pretty lucrative. I have my day job and it pays all the big bills, but I bartend one night a week and it makes me enough cash to have all the toys I want (see new V10 thread
So what exactly is a barback? Same thing as a bartending intern?
Agreed! Barbacking is how I got into bartending. You learn a bunch and when you aren't running your arse off getting dishes, beer, more alcohol, etc. you are helping the bartenders make drinks and such. The money isn't as good 'backing but it's still decent. Screw that bartending school stuff. They are just making their money from people that don't know any better and think you have to have some kind of certification to pour alcohol.El Jefe said:
It's like being a support type dude. The bartender doesn't have time to do dishes, stock coolers w/ beer, get new bottles of alcohol, etc. Well, at least they don't have time to do that if they are mega-busy. That's what the barback does. barback=gopherBonk said:
Yup. you start out as a gopher, but then as the bartender feels more comfortable with you pouring, you may get to pop open some beers, pour a couple on tap, and then start pouring the easy mixers (rum and coke, vodka tonic, etc...) After a very short while, and with some studying (replace the word study with drink) you get the hang of recipes, knowing by feel of how much of what ingredient to pour, how most drink names are clues as to what's in them, and eventually getting some style of your own.Morryjg said:
I just trained one of our waitresses, and while she is still working on a perfect 4 count and some recipes, she holds her own and can handle herself behind the bar alone without too many problems after just a couple sessions.