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valve bouncer

Master Dildoist
Feb 11, 2002
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Japan
Stupid C--t.
Yeah god forbid depressed people actually try and have fun. They should sit in darkened rooms caressing their wrists with razor blades. With depression there are times when you are going to feel relatively normal, but the lows, when they come, are so crushingly low it's all they can do to just get out of bed.
 

RUFUS

e-douche of the year
Dec 1, 2006
3,480
1
Denver, CO
God forbid you'd educate yourself about the true nature of depression rather than just talking out of your arse.
This man speaks the truth. I never believed in true depression until I was diagnosed with it recently and though about nothing but bad thoughts, sat on the couch all day, every day, didn't talk to my friends, family or wife, got a divorce, getting medically discharged from the AF, etc.

It is the real deal and it SUCKS.

Good for her for getting out and making the best out of things. I have been hanging out with friends that I have neglected for over a year, going out on the weekends for a few beers and some fun, hanging out with beautiful women and starting a new relationship, going to the gym religiously to better myself, and a few other things.

Depression in even its mildest form is not something that should be taken lightly, neglected or ashamed of. I didn't tell anyone for the longest time as I was embarrassed but now I pass on the warning signs, info, what has worked for me, etc.

My boss, supervisor, base commander, etc told me that I shouldn't go to any races, rie my bike, hang out with friends, drink because it would look bad with me having depression and all. They literally wanted me to sit at work, go home and sit on the couch all day so that it didn't look like I wanted to better myself and get out of the hole to make my life better.

I am to that point where it is all about me and what is best for me and obviously this girl is to.

Sorry for the rant, a little drunk and this stuff pisses me off.
 

4xBoy

Turbo Monkey
Jun 20, 2006
7,440
3,556
Minneapolis
Yeah god forbid depressed people actually try and have fun.
Since I don't know the woman I can't know the truth, if she does suffer from depression and can not work because of it I feel sorry for her.

Posting a pic. that could be used against you is not all that bright though.

Kind of like complaining of whiplash then being seen changing your car tire in front of the court house.
 

valve bouncer

Master Dildoist
Feb 11, 2002
7,843
114
Japan
Since I don't know the woman I can't know the truth, if she does suffer from depression and can not work because of it I feel sorry for her.

Posting a pic. that could be used against you is not all that bright though.

Kind of like complaining of whiplash then being seen changing your car tire in front of the court house.
If she was, say, a diabetic and she posted a pic of herself eating a chocolate bar no-one would bat an eyelid. It's attitudes like yours that help perpetuate the idea that people can somehow "wish" their depression away if they're mentally strong enough. They can no more wish it away than a diabetic can. They are under no obligation to constantly prove they're sick.
 

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
22,202
1,390
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I should walk away but my attitude is not that people can wish depression away.
So what, exactly, is it that makes you think you shouldn't have a picture of yourself smiling when you're clinically depressed? Or is it that people who are depressed shouldn't have bright spots in the midst of their depression? Or is it that you think someone who is clinically depressed should actually be incapable of overcoming it for brief moments?

Or do you agree that seeing a few smiling pictures is enough for the stupid f**kwits at the insurance company to make the diagnosis that her depression is cured?
 

sanjuro

Tube Smuggler
Sep 13, 2004
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SF
If you suffered from any medical condition which required you to take work disability, then photos surface showing you doing plenty of fun things, the question becomes when are you able to return to work?

I looked around and I did not see any articles describing how long she was on long-term disability. Was it a month, 6 months, two years?

P.S. Her lawyer speculates it was her facebook photos that prevented her benefits from being renewed. Her HC insurer has said nothing.
 

valve bouncer

Master Dildoist
Feb 11, 2002
7,843
114
Japan
I should walk away but my attitude is not that people can wish depression away.
Why should you walk away, seems like an interesting discussion to have? Judging by your first post in this thread you seem to have little empathy for this woman so you must excuse me if I misjudged your attitude. I'm still interested to know exactly what she did wrong. I don't see clinical depression as any different to any other kind of chronic illness. Some days are going to be better than others and hopefully you can reach a point where your illness stabilises and you can resume something of a normal life.
 

4xBoy

Turbo Monkey
Jun 20, 2006
7,440
3,556
Minneapolis
Why should you walk away, seems like an interesting discussion to have? Judging by your first post in this thread you seem to have little empathy for this woman so you must excuse me if I misjudged your attitude. I'm still interested to know exactly what she did wrong. I don't see clinical depression as any different to any other kind of chronic illness. Some days are going to be better than others and hopefully you can reach a point where your illness stabilises and you can resume something of a normal life.
I read the article thinking, she is faking it, then gets caught, then gets media to write a article for everyone to feel bad about her.

I don't feel the article is giving enough information, and the ins. company is not going to tell their side unless they have to go to court. Is she seeing a therapist? taking medication? if she is isn't and the insurance company finds questionable activity, I don't see a reason they should keep paying her.

I had nothing to say about clinical depression, I have a strong history of it in my family, and would not wish it on anyone, and sadly it is more common and untreated then most people will ever realize.
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
22,023
7,928
Colorado
When someone is out on extended leave for non-physical reasons (ie. not a fractured hip, etc), insurance co's will often have someone tracked over a period of time to see if their actual actions are in agreement with the diagnosis. I have seen it multiple times, and even had someone tracking me on a few occasions while I was out on leave for my back injury.
While not illegal, definitely unscrupulous.
 

Serial Midget

Al Bundy
Jun 25, 2002
13,053
1,897
Fort of Rio Grande
God forbid you'd educate yourself about the true nature of depression rather than just talking out of your arse.
My point - not every "medical" condition is a disability and not every disability is license to bilk insurance, employers or society out of resources that can be better spent on those who truly need it. The VAST majority of people who suffer from depression do not become parasites of society, I'm certainly not going applaud those that do.
 

Silver

find me a tampon
Jul 20, 2002
10,840
1
Orange County, CA
My boss, supervisor, base commander, etc told me that I shouldn't go to any races, rie my bike, hang out with friends, drink because it would look bad with me having depression and all. They literally wanted me to sit at work, go home and sit on the couch all day so that it didn't look like I wanted to better myself and get out of the hole to make my life better.
Well, they wanted you to go to work and not do those things. Which in my book is a big ole suck my dick moment. If I'm good enough to go to work, I'm good enough to go for a ride later on that day. That's a different scenario from not going to work, being on disability, and doing normal things...no?
 

Serial Midget

Al Bundy
Jun 25, 2002
13,053
1,897
Fort of Rio Grande
Don't forget about the "me" generation...

Well, they wanted you to go to work and not do those things. Which in my book is a big ole suck my dick moment. If I'm good enough to go to work, I'm good enough to go for a ride later on that day. That's a different scenario from not going to work, being on disability, and doing normal things...no?
 

Serial Midget

Al Bundy
Jun 25, 2002
13,053
1,897
Fort of Rio Grande
So, if you where depressed but not enough to miss out on a morning ride, would you be fine to work later that day?

Well, they wanted you to go to work and not do those things. Which in my book is a big ole suck my dick moment. If I'm good enough to go to work, I'm good enough to go for a ride later on that day. That's a different scenario from not going to work, being on disability, and doing normal things...no?
 
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dante

Unabomber
Feb 13, 2004
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looking for classic NE singletrack
When someone is out on extended leave for non-physical reasons (ie. not a fractured hip, etc), insurance co's will often have someone tracked over a period of time to see if their actual actions are in agreement with the diagnosis. I have seen it multiple times, and even had someone tracking me on a few occasions while I was out on leave for my back injury.
While not illegal, definitely unscrupulous.
Why is it unscrupulous for an insurance company to verify that you're actually as unable to work as you claim to be?
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
22,023
7,928
Colorado
Why is it unscrupulous for an insurance company to verify that you're actually as unable to work as you claim to be?
I don't disagree with it. I had a former colleague who was a systematic 'system worker', in that they had themselves levered 20-1, her husband had a back injury from a construction work incident, and had been off of work for 3 years. Yet somehow he was still able to go hunting in the back country and go atv riding... Complete joke. I was very tempted to call the insurance company as a witness to his ability.

That being said, as an individual who was followed multiple times time out with my back injury (I caught the guy and called him on it), it's a joke. They base their coverage on the times they see you in public which might make up 5% of your time if you are truly injured/unable to work. I had to argue for my disability after I was seen four blocks from my house getting coffee with a friend. We were sitting on a bench because I could not stand, and they tried to argue that I could sit at work too. They missed the whole part where it took me 45min to walk the four blocks both ways to/from my house.
 

MMike

A fowl peckerwood.
Sep 5, 2001
18,207
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just sittin' here drinkin' scotch
This is a very rough analogy....possibly not even accurate but...

Typically, most peoples' mood and behaviour change when they are drunk or high right? And why is that? A self induced alteration in the chemistry in your noggin....right? (Again...very rough here).

So if all of a sudden the noggin chemistry gets out of kilter on its own, it's still going to mess with your mood and behaviour. And you can't sleep it off.

Depression is no less real than someone being high or drunk.....not the same thing, but a similar idea.
 

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
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1,390
NC
That's not rough or inaccurate at all. It's exactly what depression is.

You can't just will away a brain chemistry imbalance.
 

jonKranked

Detective Dookie
Nov 10, 2005
89,399
27,622
media blackout
This is a very rough analogy....possibly not even accurate but...

Typically, most peoples' mood and behaviour change when they are drunk or high right? And why is that? A self induced alteration in the chemistry in your noggin....right? (Again...very rough here).

So if all of a sudden the noggin chemistry gets out of kilter on its own, it's still going to mess with your mood and behaviour. And you can't sleep it off.

Depression is no less real than someone being high or drunk.....not the same thing, but a similar idea.
But its a lot worse. It's like a bad acid trip that won't stop.
 

jonKranked

Detective Dookie
Nov 10, 2005
89,399
27,622
media blackout
State of disability questions aside......

how did the insurance company even get hold of these pictures in the first place? Her account was alleged to be private, so even if she was ratted out by one of her "friends, can these private photos even count as evidence?
 

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
22,202
1,390
NC
Photos on Facebook are only semi-private.

They're actually publicly accessible, Facebook just disables the ability to search for specific people if you're not their friend. If there are other people in the picture, though, or if you can find a link to the album, it's all public.

I think this is customizable but it defaults to allowing public access to specific photos or specific albums if you know the address or get to it through another user being tagged that you're friends with.
 

jonKranked

Detective Dookie
Nov 10, 2005
89,399
27,622
media blackout
Photos on Facebook are only semi-private.

They're actually publicly accessible, Facebook just disables the ability to search for specific people if you're not their friend. If there are other people in the picture, though, or if you can find a link to the album, it's all public.

I think this is customizable but it defaults to allowing public access to specific photos or specific albums if you know the address or get to it through another user being tagged that you're friends with.
This is why I just don't upload pictures to facebook anymore.
 

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
22,202
1,390
NC
I don't put anything on Facebook that I wouldn't be completely okay with my mother, boss, and potential future employers seeing. I'll now add "insurance company" to that list.

I have some vacation photos up there and a smattering of my photography. My profile is pretty vanilla just for that reason.
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
22,023
7,928
Colorado
i don't put anything on facebook that i wouldn't be completely okay with my mother, boss, and potential future employers seeing. I'll now add "insurance company" to that list.

I have some vacation photos up there and a smattering of my photography. My profile is pretty vanilla just for that reason.
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