"we'll be loading the rear of the aircraft first. Please proceed to the right once you enter the fuselage and pack tight!"
Shit that happens with Airlines, thread
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Wish I could manual that well. 
TL;DR:
People will die before anything is addressed in a meaningful way.
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People will die before anything is addressed in a meaningful way.
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OK tubby.
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Plus-size airline passenger demanding extra free seat divides internet
The travel influencer started a petition to get the airline regulator to institute better policies for plus-size people.
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There is an argument to be made about airlines and seat sizes, seat pitch, comfort, etc, and then there is this. I know I've said this before, but if your ass is so fat you need two seat, you're too fucking fat to be on the aircraft, full stop. I know I sound like a dick, but you are probably physically incapable of fitting through/out an overwing exit. When you're heart gives out in the smoke filled aisle, no one can get over you. Emergency personnel will not be able to heave your carcass out of the burning fucking aircraft. You are literally a safety hazard to everyone else on the aircraft, in an emergency.OK tubby.
Plus-size airline passenger demanding extra free seat divides internet
The travel influencer started a petition to get the airline regulator to institute better policies for plus-size people.
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we deal with this to a certain degree in my line of work - in that we have to have some extremely large sizes of implants and instruments for bariatric patients. i know Eric deals with this in his job too.
someone should tell her about cargo aircraft.
this.
and....
3 free checked bags....no carry ons....no overhead bins.....boarding and deplaning would be so much easier...
I've removed three overhead bin doors this week because some dumb dick tried to cram in a way over stuffed bag that totally "fit the last time".
it is always fun to tell someone they are doing it wrong and watch them get pissy....I've removed three overhead bin doors this week because some dumb dick tried to cram in a way over stuffed bag that totally "fit the last time".
I'd settle for launching from a cannon the people who board earlier and put their case and backpack in the overhead. Instead of keeping the backpack by their feet
I think I have only used the overhead bins when I have had a first row seat for the extra legroom. My carry-on is a tiny duffel that easily slides under the seat between my feet. Possibly a light sweatshirt / hoody, headphones, medz, bottle of water and maybe a samich.
I really don't understand what people could possibly need with them that requires the equivalent of an expedition back-pack for carry-on.
I really don't understand what people could possibly need with them that requires the equivalent of an expedition back-pack for carry-on.
I'd wager it's because they don't want their luggage getting lost and not showing up at their final destination. And not having to wait forever at the luggage carrousel.
Just about all of my flying is a vacation charter, so direct to a single destination airport. It I had connections all over the place, maybe I would feel a bit different. Anyway, I can't get my snorkelling gear and enough clothes for a week to fit in carry-on no matter how I pack the backpack.
Guess I'm waiting at the no-fun carousel.
So are you saying I should stop being considerate in my carry-on and try to douche it out with all the bin stuffers?
Yeah, I guess it kind of is, if you want to be as sure as possible that your stuff makes it to the same place you do. Just know that the mechanic who has to come on board and wave his crotch in your face to remove the door is definitly questioning the width of your family tree when you break the hinges with your overstuffed shit.
Ya, I get that. If I end up with a connection, then ya, my carry-on gets a bit fuller. Basically a survival kit if the checked stuff ends up in Albuquerque.
That is bad,real bad. Perhaps you should stick to the argument of seat size,pitch,etc. What the Fuck makes you think that if there was a Fire,that same person would Pull your little Pesgeek ass to saftey? Shallow.
I saw a Man,Huge Man,Sumo size,lift a Helicopter off of his buddie in fucking water and mud. The copter crashed in a big creak,the Man was trapped and had minutes to live. He was able to lift and hold till his buddie got out. I assure you,this Man would need the other seat.
I’m not perfect,and I do get a bad attitude,and say things I regret. I do my best to listen and think before I speak. For me,if I put myself in the other’s shoes,It helps to break the chains of being a downright negative Cunt.
Avy
I hate agreeing with the typing head injury that is avy. But he's right.
If you run a business to accomodate the public, who you wish to sell a service to, you need to do that. Be it seat layout of some form, or whatever else. This isn't an apollo mission. And services for the most capable only, is a big part of why this country and the culture that formed is so fucked up.
I don't fly anymore but I've personally never had an issue with any of the above. But that's the same argument used to build up a murder case for trans, brown (fill in the blank) people. Maybe someone lost their spouse/dog/child and doesn't take care of themself because of depression. Doesn't mean they can't go see family.
People as a unit of payment sits at the root of how airlines divy seats. Also kinda fucked up.
Really the only solution is to end commercial airline travel for everyone. It's kind of poison all around. Spiritually, and literally.
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There's a hell of a lot more that has to change if they go down that road. Currently, the airlines use averages for passenger weight, to keep the airplane in weight and balance limitations. If you have one person that weighs as much as 5, now you can't just assume everyone weighs an average weight that...well, averages. So now you probably gotta weigh every person that gets on and track their locations to keep the plane within CG limits. You can't put them in exit rows either. There's no way this plays out well in an aircraft that relies on an even spread of passengers to stay in CG limits. The regulation that covers seat forces for structural integrity during an emergency landing also only assumes 170lbs sitting in the seat.
Gravy Trains?
I understand all that.
But 5x is a little questionable and a bit hyperbole cuz that person ain't even getting around anywhere.
You're explaining current limitations of the existing system and I'm saying the current system is flawed. Even the very first consumer airliners had more space than they do now. Justifying the current state of passenger aircraft is just accepting the massive commercialization and profit maximizing that defines these current companies. I'm 5'8" 165lbs and that shit is still uncomfortable. Because every decade they realized they could cram another row and 5-12 tickets in.
Other than providing valuable (and delicious) chemtrails, all that shit really could be better replaced with some comfy trains.
I fly for business way too much for me. Outbound Monday home on Friday every other week.
I check my suitcase and my equipment, bc:
1. I can’t be bothered dragging that shit around
2. Waiting 10 minutes at the carousel after 8-10 hrs of travel is no big deal
3. I use my alloted space in the overhead for my laptop bag. I put my feet under the seat in front of me.
4.If it gets lost or damaged, gear belongs to my corporate employer who is insured and I am really not that attached to my work clothes…
As for Xxl people, tough call. As much as I dread having to have a seat next to a Xxl person, have the same right as me to be on the plane…
I fucking hate travel, but I make sure not to take that out on those around me…especially those working.
I check my suitcase and my equipment, bc:
1. I can’t be bothered dragging that shit around
2. Waiting 10 minutes at the carousel after 8-10 hrs of travel is no big deal
3. I use my alloted space in the overhead for my laptop bag. I put my feet under the seat in front of me.
4.If it gets lost or damaged, gear belongs to my corporate employer who is insured and I am really not that attached to my work clothes…
As for Xxl people, tough call. As much as I dread having to have a seat next to a Xxl person, have the same right as me to be on the plane…
I fucking hate travel, but I make sure not to take that out on those around me…especially those working.
I'm not defending the airline industry. I get to watch the myriad of ways it's broken and terrible from the front seats, 40+ hours a week. The current system is absolutely deeply flawed. Name me an industry that's not. The Race to the Bottom for the appeasement of shareholders has been happening at least, since deregulation. I don't need to tell you that this is hardly the only societal construct where this happens. I'm also not attempting to make the claim that an obese person is somehow less of a person that "deserves" less.
What I am saying, is currently, the way things have shaped up and are structured, is that if you're incapable of fitting down the aisle, or even walking the length of the jet bridge, you are a fucking safety issue and that in an emergency you will be responsible for people dying. I had better be closer to the nearest emergency exit that may be behind me, than you.
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For the record, unlike a West Virginian coal miner, please kill this industry for the betterment of all society and provide me government assistance and opportunity to reeducate and change jobs.
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To @Jm_ s point about weight and balance, I've witnessed "powered mobility scooters" weighing more than 600lbs loaded into cargo pits. Add a 400, 500, or 600 lb passenger, and youre possibly 800 lbs or more over a "standardized" weight with baggage. This happens regularly. One presumes this information has been passed on to the crew and/or load planning for safety purposes, but all it takes is one "I forgot" from the ramp or one baby captain who forgets to carry the 1 and the only place the airplane goes is to the scene of the accident.
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It will be 21 years in July. Which is long enough for me to know better than to ever say who I work for on the internet. Well, that and the fact that it's literally against company policy. Especially in light of this conversation.
Plus, believe it or not, I actually kind of enjoy what I do.
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A skinny can definitely fuck it all up.
If you let me have a shot at it, damn right I will!
Someone needs to put 'squeeb out of his missery and set him back on the path to his true calling in life.... Being a alcholic hobo down by the river yelling incoherently at people.
i am shocked at the level of non security at train stations....
at the charlotte amtrak you check a 55 gallon drum of diesel/fertilizer/timer and they would not notice....