Shit that happens with Airlines, thread
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Westy,you really come off as someone who has a lot of experience on the matter.
How much do you travel on a Airplane ln a one or two year period?
I hope you are going to say a lot.
Avy
I spent 5 years traveling full time for work, often flying to multiple places in a week and spent another 10 years on the road about 50% of the time. So yes, a lot of experience traveling, enough so I now despise in large part as people's behavior has become more mindless and selfish over time.
Fair enough,but why are you so Hell Bent on Fat people being a problem for you? This is not your first post on the matter. Did you have a terrible experience happen to you from a Fat person?
Or was it the Airline?
Avy
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Pilots: Hey we keep getting a cabin pressurization warning light
Mechanics: it's ok we just reset the system
Alaska AA : just don't fly it to Hawaii
unreal
www.nytimes.com
Mechanics: it's ok we just reset the system
Alaska AA : just don't fly it to Hawaii
unreal
Boeing Max 9 Plane Had Been Barred From Long Flights Over Water
Alaska Airlines restricted the use of the plane, which lost part of its fuselage on Friday, because of a warning light that went off on previous flights, an official said.
iPhone survives 16,000-foot fall after door plug blows off Alaska Air flight 1282
Still-working iPhone is one of two discovered after the airline accident, says NTSB.
arstechnica.com
ETOPS = SRS BIZNSSPilots: Hey we keep getting a cabin pressurization warning light
Mechanics: it's ok we just reset the system
Alaska AA : just don't fly it to Hawaii
unreal
Boeing Max 9 Plane Had Been Barred From Long Flights Over Water
Alaska Airlines restricted the use of the plane, which lost part of its fuselage on Friday, because of a warning light that went off on previous flights, an official said.
I'm mildly skeptical for a couple reasons that a repeat pressurization fault is related to the plug failure. It's probably related, but not necessarily and could very well be coincidental. 1. Brand new airplanes always have bugs and kinks to work out. 2. Crew reported that when switching to manual mode the aircraft remained pressurized and otherwise worked normally in flight. I'm not at all familiar with how this works on the average boeing product, but every commercial aircraft I've ever worked on the differences between automatic pressurization and manual pressurization is usually just a different switch, and a different outflow valve. These are not terribly complex systems generally speaking. 3. It's reported that MX was unable to duplicate the problem on the ground. It's incredibly difficult to fix something that isn't broken. If it were me, 3 writeups in a month certainly suggests an issue, but the fact pressure isn't being lost in manual mode kind of points to a problem with the auto mode, not an issue of losing Delta P. Maybe throw a new outflow valve or controller at it and see if it repeats, not go looking for some kind of extraordinary manufacturing flaw in the airframe. I'd be curious to know how many people in the maintenance dept at any major airline operating a MAX in this particular configuration are even aware that this fakey-plug door was a thing before this incident. I'll bet you it wasn't many.
Suggests merely that no one thought to kill power to the electrical system or pull the CVR until after the two hour window. I'm not sure why this is even news. The only thing we're missing out on is probably a bunch of "WHAT THE SHIT?!?!"s from the flight crew.
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Mainly due to the realization that 2hrs is wholly insufficient, considering the turn-around of aircraft and other associated data (not just voice, but data, etc.). Also repeat issues and causes leading up to an event and then how long an event may be back in history.
Exactly. The system isn't there for when everybody goes home, it's there to be pulled out of a smoking hole.
I'm not arguing that and I agree. It's the suggestion of nefariousness that I push back on. If it's data were worried about that stuff is already recorded for 25 hours.
probably because in civilized first world countries they actually want to know what happened in order to do better next time
vs.
limiting liability to shareholders
It has been suggested that aircraft in question didn't have pressurization issues until after it came out of Wifi Mod, and Wifi Mod requires that the plugs be removed for antenna installation. I know it's fun to shit on Boeing, but if true this might not be Boeings fault.
hmmn the door plug was installed by a sub contractor
F.A.A. Orders Airlines to Ground Some Boeing 737 Max 9 Jets After Midair Emergency
An Alaska Airlines plane made an emergency landing at the Portland, Ore., airport on Friday after losing a chunk of its body, terrifying passengers.
see above article
It has been suggested that aircraft in question didn't have pressurization issues until after it came out of Wifi Mod, and Wifi Mod requires that the plugs be removed for antenna installation. I know it's fun to shit on Boeing, but if true this might not be Boeings fault.
AAR says "get fucked Boeing!"
AAR issues statement on January 5, 2024, Alaska Airlines Boeing 737 MAX 9 incident
/PRNewswire/ -- AAR CORP. (NYSE: AIR), a leading provider of aviation services to commercial and government operators, MROs, and OEMs, learned of the recent...
www.prnewswire.com
apparently during the current grounding inspections United has found bolts on the door plugs that were not tightened to spec
United finds loose bolts on plug doors during 737 Max 9 inspections
United Airlines has found loose bolts and other parts on 737 Max 9 plug doors as it inspects its fleet of Boeing jets following the Friday rapid depressurization aboard an Alaska Airlines jet of the same make, according to three people familiar with the findings.
theaircurrent.com
Someone's violating company policy!
dude what's a torque wrench?
supposedly from said inspectionsUnited finds loose bolts on plug doors during 737 Max 9 inspections
United Airlines has found loose bolts and other parts on 737 Max 9 plug doors as it inspects its fleet of Boeing jets following the Friday rapid depressurization aboard an Alaska Airlines jet of the same make, according to three people familiar with the findings.
Someone's violating company policy!
what, we don't do castle nuts and pins anymore?
edit: oh......that
edit: oh......that
This is not the dress up I was ever expecting to see Westy in, I have to say.
I am both disappointed, and relieved.
I am both disappointed, and relieved.
Actually seems like a Boeing part number for “door inspector” kit, one each
FUCK AIRBUS!!! amirite?
With a few exceptions I think only the Russians use metric fasteners in aerospace. A typical commercial fleet can require over 20,000 fastener types and with pre-metric legacy aircraft still flying no single manufacturer has ever really made the effort convert, and their customers would probably not be happy.
sounds like a job for elon!
Alaska reporting more loose hardware. I mean, Jesus. This is basic stuff. :facepalm:
www.seattletimes.com
Alaska, United find loose hardware during inspection of 737 MAX 9s
Alaska Airlines and United Airlines said Monday they found loose hardware during inspections of their 737 MAX 9 aircraft.
www.seattletimes.com
With puns like that, you can metriculate into my language school.