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rideit

Bob the Builder
Aug 24, 2004
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Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
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Airline ‘adjacent’, but DEFINITELY worth reading, and knowing about. (The other links in the article are fascinating, Hertz is a serious bunch of shit-weasels).
Oh yeah, one time I rented from them and they thought the previous person still had it. They couldn't "fix" this in their system, so it ended up being totally free...and I could have sold the car on the black market.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
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so this tells me that there is no fire break between the engine pylon (like expanding fire resistant foam is required for openings in building construction) and the passenger cabin. glad I don't fly anywhere

There absolutely is, but pressurization systems use bleed air from the engines which also runs through the environmental air conditioning packs as well. This can be shut off and one engine is sufficient, but if left on, anything burning in-cowl could theoretically go into this line and into the cabin. This isn't fire, this is smoke and fumes.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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There absolutely is, but pressurization systems use bleed air from the engines which also runs through the environmental air conditioning packs as well. This can be shut off and one engine is sufficient, but if left on, anything burning in-cowl could theoretically go into this line and into the cabin. This isn't fire, this is smoke and fumes.

I love the little whiff of Jet-A you get after engine start and the AC is turned back on.
 

Jm_

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That's pretty normal time to descend that far. At first 35,000 or whatever the initial decent rate is around 4000fpm, it gets less as the wind gets thicker as you get lower.

The old 3:1 rule is to plan out a 280kt descent, which is what most airliners shoot for, for every 1000 feet of difference between cruise and your altitude restriction/approach altitude, you need 3 miles to descend. So 27 thousand feet would mean starting 81 miles back, and at 280kts, it would take about 13 min or so.
 
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Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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Sleazattle
That's pretty normal time to descend that far. At first 35,000 or whatever the initial decent rate is around 4000fpm, it gets less as the wind gets thicker as you get lower.

You want to descend quickly when pressure is lost, because of breathing or some horseshit.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
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You want to descend quickly when pressure is lost, because of breathing or some horseshit.
Actually, no, you don't. Most airlines teach put the autopilot on, wheel down the altitude in the setting-window, set the autopilot and go. Pilots were doing way too many crazy things during emergency descents with poor aircraft control, or even losing control. Much better to let the computer descend it, safely. As I said before, you are descending into thicker air pretty damn fast at first. Admittedly, I did learn this while flying a 737.
 
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Jm_

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If I wanted to take a MTB fork on an airplane, would they allow me to carry a fork box on as a carry-on?
I've taken wheels on as a carry-on, there's nothing specific that would prohibit it. People bring canes, fishing rods, walkers and all sorts of other shit all the time. What you don't know is if you are going to get some TSA agent with a hair up their @ss, but you can request to speak to a supervisor and explain what it is. Each airline has their own policy though and they can still decide at the gate whether or not you can take it on or have to gate-check it. I highly doubt anyone would require that, since it would easily fit in the overhead.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
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And maybe they have a file on me or something, but I don't even get the bag-search anymore for bringing brake rotors in my carry-on.

I've had like half my bike in my backpack before, pedals, chain, etc...
 

boostindoubles

Nacho Libre
Mar 16, 2004
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I was concerned about the size of the box but it sounds like I should be worried the TSA people are going to think I have a weapon of some kind. Hmmm
 

Jm_

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I was concerned about the size of the box but it sounds like I should be worried the TSA people are going to think I have a weapon of some kind. Hmmm
They also usually have a closet/locker up front that they put suits in...well, back when people wore suits on airplanes, so I'm sure it'd fit in there, but you'd have to ask nicely to use it, but you may get some buy-in with "to save overhead space".

I saw a real good doc on the scanners recently on U-toob, they are basically scanning for densities that match bombs and shit and water is real close to the densities of several of the bad things. The new machines that let you leave all your crap in have basically a CT-scanner inside that moves around your stuff in a full 360 degree circle several times, to map out the volume, so because it does that, it can determine density, which makes it a lot easier to pass through "not bombs" and speed up the whole process.
 

rideit

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Aug 24, 2004
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In the cleavage of the Tetons

Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
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Riding the baggage carousel.
Dumb article, but speed tape hits the news!





Whoever laid that speed tape out, I want to buy them a beer.
 

eric strt6

Resident Curmudgeon
Sep 8, 2001
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we got put on alert then stood down for an aircraft fire at SFO. Dumbass brought fireworks on board

Subject: STAND DOWN EVERYONE: RE: ADVISORY FOR NOW: Poll for possibly needed ambulance resources for SFO
Thank you all for monitoring your emails and responding.
We ‘ve been asked to stand down.

Here are the details learned:
An American aircraft caught fire in the aft of the aircraft while on the taxi-way at approximately 1216.
Evacuation started immediately. 3 patients were identified.
Potential source of ignition – fireworks in checked baggage
All passengers/patients accounted for and the medical response is covered w/o need to external resources.