I'm about to buy my friend shiver on the cheap..he said it's not working correctly, what is the average you guys have paid to get the DC shiver rebuilt?
Shiver owners!!
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Umm, that depends on what exactly needs to be done...I have yet re-build mine, but it's practically new and is working like a wet dream...
But, if it's just normal service (i.e. changing oil and cleaning out the internals), I would say $50.00 or less. It really doesn't require much to take it apart, change the oil, and slap it back together...But, if it needs new seals and/or wipers, then that's prolly another $30.00 or so? Guessing here, as I've never bought a Zoch seal kit, only BoXXer kits - but you can probably check on pricepoint or jensonusa for example and figure out how much a kit is...However, if an actual cartridge is damaged and needs to be replaced, then who knows? I couldn't even hazard a guess with that scenario...Safe to say, quite a bit...If that's the case, I hope he's cutting you a deal...
(EDIT - Damn it, the above response wasn't there when I was writing my message...Oh well, now you've two people saying the same thing)
But, if it's just normal service (i.e. changing oil and cleaning out the internals), I would say $50.00 or less. It really doesn't require much to take it apart, change the oil, and slap it back together...But, if it needs new seals and/or wipers, then that's prolly another $30.00 or so? Guessing here, as I've never bought a Zoch seal kit, only BoXXer kits - but you can probably check on pricepoint or jensonusa for example and figure out how much a kit is...However, if an actual cartridge is damaged and needs to be replaced, then who knows? I couldn't even hazard a guess with that scenario...Safe to say, quite a bit...If that's the case, I hope he's cutting you a deal...
(EDIT - Damn it, the above response wasn't there when I was writing my message...Oh well, now you've two people saying the same thing)
Seal kits are about $30 bucks. I charge about $15-20 of labor for an oil change depending on how involved it is and how much effort it requires. I don't charge for the oil, but to install the seals you pretty much have to take it all apart, so it takes a while and you better know what you are doing.jackalope said:
If the fork needs bushings we'll just send it to marzocchi or QBP, pressing in bushings is not super-hard, but to to the varience of different forks it's just easier to do it that way. Bushings are usually another $30 or so, so that brings the total up to about $90-100. New cartridges are about $120 retail, so for 2 carts and a full rebuild you are still way under the cost of a new shiver (about a thousand) and you basically have a new fork if the stanchions are in good condition.
You don't need any special tools to remove/install Shiver bushings, the fork is simple to service.
Yeah, my shiver is from the first year they were produced. Maybe they changed something, but mine has simple split bushings that can be removed by hand.
As for the cart, they have to be really bad to require replacement. Mine are kind of F'ed up, but as long as I keep the oil fresh, they seam to work fine.
Another thing to look for: If the for has high hours, look for a small leak at the top of the leg on the red cap. Dirt gets on this o-ring, and over time, wears the red cap and causes your fork to squirt oil on rider and bike. You should see my white jersey from lasy year. I'm waiting to find out the cost of new red caps.
As for the cart, they have to be really bad to require replacement. Mine are kind of F'ed up, but as long as I keep the oil fresh, they seam to work fine.
Another thing to look for: If the for has high hours, look for a small leak at the top of the leg on the red cap. Dirt gets on this o-ring, and over time, wears the red cap and causes your fork to squirt oil on rider and bike. You should see my white jersey from lasy year. I'm waiting to find out the cost of new red caps.
this is like an 03' or early 04' model....not too many hours and mostly used fro big stair gaps and other city riding, he purchased an 888 thats why he's selling the fork. His exact e-mail "Something's messed up with the shiver but I'm sure it can be easily fixed. If you want it it's yours" then I asked if it needed rebuilt or whatever and he responded "The shiver does have to be rebuild or maybe just wrenched on a little and it should be fine. I mean even if it does need new cartridges and all that jazz im stilling making out with a great deal.
geez, gotta love clueless fork owners 
Ok I have acquired the fork..the only problem is that if you take out the axle one of the legs fall out (out comes the oil) and the knob on the left side is missing (not a big deal to me) but this seems like an easy fix to me...other then that stuff the fork is in AWESOME condition and CAN work as is but I'll probably send it to QBP. Thanks for the help!
Ever think these 2 things may be related?NotQuiteJdm said:
The lower legs are held in by the rod that comes up through the top of the catridge and is used to adjusta damping. (at least it is on 99% of other inverted forks, both moto and bicycle..not 100% sure about marzo stuff)
Yeah thats what we were thinking..I'll have to ask him if its the same leg (im not attempting to take the axel out right now) I'm new at this stuff so does that little hole normally have a pin in it to hold it all together?
Most of the time the dial is held into the rod with a small set screw. The lack of this is why you are loosing the lower leg. Chance are the rebound/compression isnt working either as it will most probably have come apart internally from riding it that way.NotQuiteJdm said:Yeah thats what we were thinking..I'll have to ask him if its the same leg (im not attempting to take the axel out right now) I'm new at this stuff so does that little hole normally have a pin in it to hold it all together?
Well pushing down it actually feels good but I will still have it looked at. How much do you think the knob and screw set will cost?
you need a C-clip (or E-clip?) to hold the cartridge in - when the cart is all the way tight in the top-cap, you'll be able to see a groove where the clip sits. The preload knob doesn't actually hold it on, although it might make it a tad more secure. Lots of guys have lost their preload knobs and it's no big deal.
Back from the grave...Does anyone have a picture of this clip so I can get my hands on one?
its just a standard E-clip, you just need the right size; you can find them at a decent hardware store. Buy a bunch of sizes if your not sure.NotQuiteJdm said:
zedro said:its just a standard E-clip, you just need the right size; you can find them at a decent hardware store. Buy a bunch of sizes if your not sure.
Yeah, that's the best idea. If ya can't find one, try calling Marzocchi, they may help ya out.
Zocchi doesn't charge much for a rebuild. $50-80 maybe with seals and bushing changes. It's pretty reasonable to do every so often. Though they don't require it all the time it sounds like it'd be a good $100 or so to invest in it so you know, peace of mind, that everything is put back together correctly.
Shivers are stupid simple though to work on, probably one of the easier forks out there. But if your skills aren't up to it just send it in.
Shivers are stupid simple though to work on, probably one of the easier forks out there. But if your skills aren't up to it just send it in.
go to marzocchi website and d/l the service manual.