[manimal]

Got this in an email from the command staff today:

A group called "The October 22 Coalition National Day of Protest to Stop Police Brutality, Repression, and the Criminalization of a Generation" is planning a protest on the sidewalk outside the Police Department on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 from 1645 - 1800 hrs.

The group has been advised to not obstruct the entrances to the PD, or traffic on the streets. 30-40 protesters are expected to carry signs, pictures, banners and drums. Protesters have been asked by the organization to wear black for the event.

We rarely get any kind of activism around here, I'm curious to see how much attention the protesters get. could be an interesting day, me thinks.

sorry, not much for a topic of debate but i'm sure it'll turn into a cop bashing thread so i went ahead and put it in here.

 

[jimmydean]

Nothing better than a day of irony when you have to beat down protesters on a day like that.

I sense a series of youtube videos.

 

[X3pilot]

By the time that group finishes painting the name of their cause on their banners, it'll be Oct 23.

 

[Westy]

and the Criminalization of a Generation

Let me guess, a bunch of kids who think they've gotten treated differently than everyone else at that age?

 

[Spero]

Around here, the 'Oct.22 CNDPSPBRCG' is a pretty quiet group of folk. They tend to spend all of their energy on explaining who they are.

 

[BadDNA]

Sounds like a fun time to pull out the tazers.

 

[manimal]

with a name like that, at least they can't do a sneak protest.

i don't know why they're coming to my PD...we only repress and brutalize the people that REALLY need it.

 

[Westy]

You should put some cones around an out of the way area and put up a sign next to it "Taser Free Zone"

 

[IH8Rice]

the 'Oct.22 CNDPSPBRCG'

lol damn...beat me to it

 

[kidwoo]

By the time that group finishes painting the name of their cause on their banners, it'll be Oct 23.

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

If I can make them leave without incident will you let me have the keys to the evidence room ?

 

[IH8Rice]

here they are:

 

[reflux]

Are they referring to:
1) police brutality, 2) repression, and 3) criminalization of a generation?
OR
1) police brutality, 2) police repression, and 3) police criminalization of a generation?

A long and winded name such as theirs should have prevented any such misinterpretations of their mission.

 

[N8 v2.0]

they should be beat-down just for having such a name.

 

[manimal]

By the time that group finishes painting the name of their cause on their banners, it'll be Oct 23.

actually, they solved that problem by creating the
October 21 Coalition to Make Signs for The October 22 Coalition National Day of Protest to Stop Police Brutality, Repression, and the Criminalization of a Generation. -or as they're more commonly known-

October 21 CMSTOCNDPSPB

 

[JohnE]

Just hang a "Gone Fishin" sign on the door and watch in plain clothes from down the street...will be a fun protest with no-one around for them to protest.

 

[manimal]

i just read the flyer they dropped off and it has all of the recent shooting victims in the region. the dude i posted a thread about is on it with his picture that says, "killed while fleeing from the police." that makes me so friggin mad 'cause the SBI already concluded their investigation and the main news outlets finally came out and said that he was shot once in the head while pointing a gun at police; not 5 times in the back as reported by "an eyewitness" that turned out to be as credible as hannity. i wonder if we could charge slander/libel for such blatantly false statements?

 

[Plummit]

They've only committed to their demonstration for 1 hour and 15 minutes?!? Just long enough to make the local news?

 

[BadDNA]

So how many little punks on skateboards did you get to taze? Pics?

 

[manimal]

hasn't happened yet, is later this afternoon

 

[manimal]

lol...their website content must have been written by blue's less-than-elite undergrads based on the grammar and poor analogies. For instance:

There has been over 3000 citizens killed by law officers in this country since 1990. If there had been the same amount to die from some illness in that same time frame, there would be all sorts of investigations, researches and hearings to find a cure for the deaths.

http://ncoct22.org/Stolen_Lives_Roster.html

wow, cops are killing people right and left...we're dropping them like flies...and they're all innocent. I guess the author of this page neglected to check ANY mortality stats.

cops worse than the flu?

Deaths from Flu: 63,730 annual deaths for influenza and pneumonia (NVSR Sep 2001); estimated 20,000 deaths from flu (NIAID)

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/f/flu/stats.htm#death_and_mortality_stats

we must be more deadly than aids right because there are all kinds of "hearings and research" for aids.

Death rate extrapolations for USA for HIV/AIDS: 15,244 per year, 1,270 per month, 293 per week, 41 per day, 1 per hour, 0 per minute, 0 per second.

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/h/hiv_aids/deaths.htm

they are worse than fox news with the spin they put on the "stolen lives roster".

Quentin Reed died in a car wreck after a brief chase by aTroutman police officer.

http://ncoct22.org/Victims.html
i guess they just neglected to mention the FACT that the car was stolen and Mr. Reed passed a stationary officer at over 100mph in said stolen car which initiated the chase. yup, he's "victim" alright...a victim of his own actions.

 

[N8 v2.0]

What happened yesterday during "International Day of the Nacho"..??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nachos

 

[sanjuro]

It is clearly shown that the emergency dispatcher had informed this deputy several times that this man was naked and yelling at 4:40AM in the middle of the street. Any officer with a reasonable amount of common sense or experienced officer would have or should have known that this person has some sort of mental distress. He should have realized this, before it was known there were an auto accident, and that the injuries, and strange actions had to come from some cause. It was foolish to approach any person with indifference after he saw the physical condition of this man, and then try to pepper spray and arrest him.

I like this story about Gil Barber.

A man is running down the street naked. Apparently all his clothing came off because of a car accident. Riiiiight.

What is sad is that I do think there is police brutality, but to lump every perp who was killed by the police, smears the good cops and skips over the cases which should be examined closer.

 

[manimal]

i'm friends with the deputy who shot gil barber and he counter-sued the family for 2 years worth of defamation leading up to the civil case. if you were an officer and a bleeding, naked, and crazed man, who had just crawled through a barbed wire fence, tackled you and started to gain control of your gun...would you consider that a lethal force situation? oh yeah, the ashtray that had his teeth in them...i've seen the picture of it and his teeth are IN the tray; as in still vertical, stuck into the tray from where he bit it. by the way, gil barber's family has a criminal history that would make lil wayne jealous.

 

[sanjuro]

Perfect timing:

October 24, 2008
N.Y. Police Investigate Allegation of Brutality
By AL BAKER

Brooklyn prosecutors and police internal affairs officers are investigating allegations that uniformed New York City police officers beat and sodomized a man in a Brooklyn subway station, officials and lawyers for the man said on Thursday.

The lawyers identified the man as Michael Mineo, 24, of Brooklyn, an employee at a Brooklyn tattoo parlor. He was issued a summons for disorderly conduct on Oct. 15, they said, after three officers pinned him to the ground and another repeatedly shoved an object — possibly a police radio or a baton — into his rectum.

On Thursday evening, Paul J. Browne, the Police Department’s chief spokesman, acknowledged that the department’s Internal Affairs Bureau was investigating the claims but said that the facts did not support the accusation.

“Police officers grappled with an individual, who they observed smoking marijuana, after he had fled and resisted being handcuffed,” Mr. Browne said in an e-mail message. “His assertion that he was sodomized is not supported by independent civilian witnesses on the scene. The complaint is being investigated by I.A.B. and the district attorney’s office.”

Jerry Schmetterer, a spokesman for the district attorney’s office, said, “We don’t comment on investigations.”

Mr. Browne said that there were five officers in all at the location with Mr. Mineo, four of them assigned to the 71st Precinct and one a Transit Bureau officer. None have had their duty status changed.

The allegations recalled the case of Abner Louima, a Haitian immigrant who was tortured with a broken broomstick in 1997. One police officer was sentenced to 30 years in prison in that attack, and a second served five years for perjury.

The lawyers for Mr. Mineo, Stephen C. Jackson and Kevin L. Mosley, contended that unlike the Louima case, in which Mr. Louima was taken to a room in a police station house, their client was assaulted about 12:30 p.m. in a place busy with travelers and with a clerk in a nearby subway booth.

Mr. Jackson said his client is white and the officers were white, black and Hispanic.

“He sustained serious injuries to the rectal area and internally,” said Mr. Jackson, who said he planned to hold a news conference on Monday to make Mr. Mineo’s medical records public. “The wounds are very serious and very nasty and are going to require extensive rehab and treatment, as well as psychological treatment.”

Mr. Jackson said that the attack occurred at the Prospect Park station of the B and Q lines and that afterward Mr. Mineo used his cellphone to call his boss, who drove to the station and then drove Mr. Mineo to Brookdale University Hospital and Medical Center. He said a hospital administrator notified the Brooklyn district attorney’s office.

Andrew Rubin, a hospital spokesman, said Mr. Mineo arrived there as a patient on Oct. 15. He declined to say when he was discharged. Mr. Mosley said that Mr. Mineo spent five days in the hospital.

Mr. Rubin said, “The only thing we can say is that the patient was physically in the hospital, yes. We can’t tell you why, we can’t tell you how he was treated.”

Asked if the hospital notified prosecutors about the case, Mr. Rubin said he had no knowledge of that, adding, “That is not the administrator of the hospital’s position to do that.”

Mr. Browne, when asked about injuries to Mr. Mineo, said, “We have no record of his injuries.” He said police officials were “waiting for the hospital to release them to us.”

A woman at Jiggaman Tattoos in Downtown Brooklyn, where Mr. Mineo works, and who identified herself as Mr. Mineo’s sister said “he’s not actually doing O.K.” when asked about him on Thursday night. The woman, who did not give her name, said a lawyer had told her and Mr. Mineo’s friends not to talk about what had happened.

In interviews on Thursday, Mr. Jackson gave an account he said his client provided. He said Mr. Mineo, who had left his house to go to work, was “accosted” by officers as he approached the subway station. The officers pursued him, and Mr. Mineo “hurriedly walked down the stairs” of the station, Mr. Jackson said. The clerk’s booth is at the foot of the stairs at one of the station’s two entrances.

He said that the officers pushed Mr. Mineo to the ground before he reached the turnstiles, and that one officer placed his knee on Mr. Mineo’s neck as others punched and kicked him.

“At least three held him down,” Mr. Jackson said. At one point, an officer pulled his client’s baggy pants down and Mr. Mineo screamed. Mr. Mineo saw that officer reach for his radio on his gun belt, Mr. Jackson said. He said one officers yelled, “Don’t do it! Don’t do it! No, no, no, no.” But his client was being assaulted. He said the entire episode lasted about two minutes.

Afterward, Mr. Mosley said, the officers took Mr. Mineo to a police car, gave him a summons for disorderly conduct and let him go.

Mr. Jackson promised to make a copy of that summons public on Monday. He said that it indicated the name of one of the officers, but that he did not know the names of the others. He said there were several witnesses, but he did not provide their names. He added that he was seeking videotape evidence.

Jason Amolsch, the owner of Jiggaman Tattoos, said on Thursday that he lives with Mr. Mineo and that both of them were headed to the shop on Oct. 15. He said Mr. Mineo left home a few minutes earlier.

By the time Mr. Amolsch reached the station, he found Mr. Mineo outside, bloodied and screaming that the officers had “shoved their walkie-talkie” into his rectum. Mr. Mineo then told him, “I’ve got to go to the hospital.” A few days later, after he was released from the hospital, Mr. Mineo came to the shop. “He tried to work, but he couldn’t,” Mr. Amolsch said. “He kept crying.”

Mr. Browne said that officers interviewed two civilian witnesses, whom he declined to identify, who gave accounts that contradicted the allegation.

Mr. Browne said one of the witnesses told of hearing Mr. Mineo yelling, “Stop Tasering me!”

But Mr. Browne said that the same witness said the officers did not have Tasers. None of the officers present were equipped with them, Mr. Browne said.

“Witnesses said they heard him say two things, that he was being sodomized and Tasered, and they saw neither,” Mr. Browne said.

A senior police official, speaking on background because the case is under investigation, said that two witnesses, one an adult and the other a 12-year-old, both saw the arrest.

The official said that the police were continuing to investigate to ensure that the officers had not done anything wrong, but were satisfied at this point that there had not been any sodomy.

A person briefed on the inquiry said investigators had determined that Mr. Mineo had suffered some kind of rectal injury and had blood in his underwear, but have not found any evidence that the injury had been sustained in an altercation with the police.

As part of the inquiry, however, one investigator said police officials had removed an item, which he would not identify, from one of the officer’s lockers and sent it for testing.

The testing has not been completed.

Deirdre Parker, a spokeswoman for New York City Transit, said she could not say who was working in the booth on the afternoon of Oct. 15 or if that person saw anything.

“We have no comment except to say that we are cooperating with the N.Y.P.D.,” said Ms. Parker.

Mr. Mineo was arrested on April 18 at the tattoo parlor on charges that he and four others kicked and punched a man, gashing his head and knocking out a tooth, according to a criminal complaint. Another victim in the confrontation said Mr. Mineo struck him with a wooden stool, the complaint said. A child was in the store at the time, an official said, and Mr. Mineo was charged with gang assault and endangering the welfare of a child, among other charges. The case is still open.

Mr. Mosley said “there was no gang assault,” but he said he was not representing Mr. Mineo in that case.

Two decades ago, Mr. Jackson was the lawyer for C. Vernon Mason, one of three principal advisers to Tawana Brawley, a 15-year-old black girl from Wappingers Falls, N.Y., whose claims of being abducted and raped by a group of white men were found to be a hoax. Mr. Mason, along with the Rev. Al Sharpton and Alton H. Maddox Jr., was sued for defamation by a prosecutor, Steven A. Pagones, whom they had accused of being one of the rapists.

At one point during court proceedings, Mr. Jackson was briefly jailed for contempt of court. A jury awarded Mr. Pagones $345,000 from the three men.