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Should i warranty my own bike?

Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by zedro, Sep 11, 2005.

  1. zedro

    zedro Turbo Monkey

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    so the mid-brace for the swingarm is finally falling apart, one of the cracked sections has already chipped off, the other section is imminent. The swingarm has really lost alot of torsinal support (moreso then from the crappy design :rolleyes: ) and i'm afraid riding it further can scrap the whole assembly. Now since this piece already needs to be redesigned, i was thinking this might be an oppertunity to redesign the front end of the swingarm which has been a real dissapointment as well. Now the thing is, i'm not getting free cnc milling this time around so the venture might be pretty expensive, and i'm wondering if it's even worth it should more parts start to fail. Anyways, heres some gore, very odd fatigue pattern....guess the FEA wasent wrong this time :(

     

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    vitox Turbo Monkey

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    i think its a warranty case for sure

    look at the bright side of it, after you fix it youll get your mandatory "zedro CS rocks" post.
     
  3. zedro

    zedro Turbo Monkey

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    naw, i hear i'm a real prick...
     
  4. Kntr

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    Ill second that. :thumb:

    Joke :) :)
     
  5. dump

    dump Turbo Monkey

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    I wouldn't repair it @ shop costs...

    I'd learn from the 1st project & apply that knowledge to project #2.
     
  6. buildyourown

    buildyourown Turbo Monkey

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    Considering how expensive it is to have custom parts machined, I would scrap it.
    Sometimes you just have to admit that the project was a learning experience.
    My first bike is $400 worth of Ti wall art.
     
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    what bike is that?? pics please
     
  8. Kntr

    Kntr Turbo Monkey

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    Its his own creation
     
  9. Sir_Crackien

    Sir_Crackien Turbo Monkey

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    then are there any pics. i always love custom creations!! i have a few of my own (r/c cars though)
     
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    how long has it taken to fatigue to this level?
    under what sort of riding aswell?
     
  11. ChrisRobin

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    Hey Matt... the only reason your frame is cracking is because you weren't using an Avalanche shock.

    edit. Makes me wonder...if you were to forget fixing it and buy a DH frame, what would it be??
     
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  13. zedro

    zedro Turbo Monkey

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    yeah, guess i will at least get a quote. A whole new project is out of the question now, and i know what it'll take to get this one running better than before. I'd love to build a whole new one, but that would be another alpha with all the risks again. Funny thing is, this particular stress raiser was detected by the FEA, but i dismissed it as an exageration due to the constraint parameters....guess i was dead wrong. I dont even need to update the other foward swingarm parts really, just beef the current one, but i could make the design that much better i think.
     
  14. kidwoo

    kidwoo Celebrating No-Pants Day

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    Well then there's your answer. I get the feeling you're not the kind who can now just jump on someone else's bike, knowing you could be riding your own creation.

    ......maybe I'm wrong?

    Look at how much money we all spend on bikes. Seems to me it's better to blow it on your own. What are we talking here....like a $600 replacement?
     
  15. zedro

    zedro Turbo Monkey

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    well no more for the minimum fix at least. Guess a cost evaluation is in order, will have to weight it compared to (gasp) a new frame. Problem is i'm not happy with just doing the minimum, it makes me feel all dirty inside.....
     
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    kidwoo Celebrating No-Pants Day

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    That's worse than riding it till it disintegrates during a run and then you feel all dirty on the outside. I understand.

    Based on your pic, you just need a new machined cross brace? More than $600 (US)? Man I have no concept of what custom cnc work costs......what the hell did the entire bike run?

    Just get risse to make you a whole new rear end. :devil:
     
  17. zedro

    zedro Turbo Monkey

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    talkin' canadian loot here bud....

    and funny thing is i just thought of Risse with the thread down there. They did after all have some inspiration with the design concept.
     
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    kidwoo Celebrating No-Pants Day

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    I think I've heard of that. Is this the funny colored paper you have to roll 8-sided dice and move around some little figurines of beavers and chainsaws on a board game to use?
     
  19. zedro

    zedro Turbo Monkey

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    yes, but you can also buy chips and beer at the dep with it too
     
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    kidwoo Celebrating No-Pants Day

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    Oooh what's a dep?

    Do we need one of those down here? Probably. Send me one along with some of that politeness and courtesy I hear so much about.

    Oh.....and some maudite.
     
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    I might be able to help you out with the machining. I need another project to do for school. pm me if your interested.
     
  22. zedro

    zedro Turbo Monkey

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    dep = depanneur

    and yes, you do need one of those down there, well depending on what crazy-ass state you live in i guess....
     
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    Aww man that stinks. If you are happy with how it works and are not going to build an entire new bike, you gotta rebuild that part and keep the zedmobile rocking.

    You can build it better...stronger...faster than before. And probably for something less than Six Million Dollars (Canadian).
     
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    ohio The Fresno Kid

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    If you didn't burn bridges at your uni, I bet you can find someone there that would be willing to help you out, or at least cut you a break on having another part done...
     
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    zedro Turbo Monkey

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    it was on good terms for sure, gave them beer and props too, but things got tight after the project cycle, they couldnt finish it at the time, luckily it was minor fab work i could do myself. I think the dept heads tightened their sphincters after i passed through :D
     
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    zedro Turbo Monkey

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    ooo, and maybe with sound and motion effects who's amplitude and grandeur dont seem to be relative to the significance of the particular stunt.....nannanaananaanaaa
     
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    kidwoo Celebrating No-Pants Day

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    Look.......just cause the "free love 90's" have come to a close and some of your old flames are scared of the emotional commitment doesn't mean you can't still get some parts machined. :rolleyes:
     
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    It would be pretty cool if you could slow time around you while you remain in standard time...think of how fast your DH times could be!!!!

    :thumb:
     
  29. Nately27

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    ive had to warrenty my own frame twice, but it comes back better then it was every time :thumb: ... Id say go for it since you dont have another design in the works...
     
  30. MMike

    MMike A fowl peckerwood.

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    Hmmm.... that's a bummer... and yeah...once you get your degree...the Concordia machine shop cuts you off....

    Jurg Seeger (was he still there when you were there?) lives in Pointe Claire just off St. Louis near John Rennie. He might be able to help you out?
     
  31. jackalope

    jackalope Mental acuity - 1%

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    I dunno...I heard the CS for Zedro File Cabinets, Inc. is suXor...Think I even heard the owner loped off one his fingers in the shop after smoking a spliff... :evil:

    Whatever you do, just make sure your next bike is rootbeer (i.e. harder to see the cracks that way)...
     
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    MMike A fowl peckerwood.

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    There's also a small...and I mean tiny little CNC shop in Dorval off Cote de Liesse. It's a one man how. The guy has a lathe and a machining center. He did some parts for us once for a decent price. Called Euro precision