http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/08/21/drinking.age/index.html
It's 18 here and 19 in most of Canada. 21 seems too high to me.
It's 18 here and 19 in most of Canada. 21 seems too high to me.
Don't blame the beer. DUI's are less of an issue just about anywhere but here because the rules are a joke in the US. Germany has almost no actual drinking age and the novelty of getting sh!tty when you reach some magic age is long lost there.yes, just about the time they're figuring out to drive responsibly, let's get 'em all likkerd up.
Please...I've pressured my fair share of people well over the age of 21 into binge drinking, going shot-for-shot, etc.it just seems foolish to allow people to be under the influence of peer pressure & alcohol simultaneously. i believe there's less of a conflict at 21
"...less of a conflict at 21" means 21>18, not 21=magical-finish-linePlease...I've pressured my fair share of people well over the age of 21 into binge drinking, going shot-for-shot, etc.
And I'm proud of it!!
HA!
I know. I was being droll."...less of a conflict at 21" means 21>18, not 21=magical-finish-line
surely we can agree that if age makes no difference, then the law is arbitrary, and therefore unconstitutional (but not necessarily for this reason alone)
Article said:It's no secret that alcohol permeates college life. Will Porter, a 21-year-old economics major at U-Md., said that one of the favorite games in his fraternity is for 10 guys to pass around a handle of bourbon until it's gone. About a month ago, he said, he drank seven shots of whiskey and six glasses of Jack Daniels and Coca-Cola at a bar near campus. He doesn't remember much else.
Now, he said, he's going through court-ordered alcohol treatment. His second Alcoholics Anonymous meeting is Sunday.
pfffft...please, by lowering the drinking age, the age of consent lowers automatically...Since the age of consent is 3 years less than the legal age for drinking; if they lower the drinking age to 18, should they also lower the age of consent?
The issue isn't with the drinking age in the US; it has to do with the stigma associated with alcohol that is taught to all children (and drugs too, but that's another topic). If we, as parents and Americans, can expose our children to alcohol in moderation, perhaps we can minimize the amount of binge drinking they will engage in once they're on their own. The key is to teach moderation to children while they're still impressionable and under your roof.http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/08/21/drinking.age/index.html
It's 18 here and 19 in most of Canada. 21 seems too high to me.
If we, as parents and Americans, can expose our children to Junk Food in moderation, perhaps we can minimize the amount of fat kids. The key is to teach moderation to children while they're still impressionable and under your roof.
Don't laugh. Age of consent here was just raised very recently from 14 to 16.....Since the age of consent is 3 years less than the legal age for drinking; if they lower the drinking age to 18, should they also lower the age of consent?
That explains a lot of your anger.Don't laugh. Age of consent here was just raised very recently from 14 to 16.....
On the frenchie side?Don't laugh. Age of consent here was just raised very recently from 14 to 16.....
I was wicked skinny until I joined the Navy (I actually had to gain 5 pounds before boot camp because I was under weight).You were a fat kid, weren't you?
let's spill out for my homies fallin' in the middle east, sonIf you can die in a war @ 18 you should be able to drink a beer at 18 too...
Depends on what she ate...let's spill out for my homies fallin' in the middle east, son
there's an age-of-consent angle here too, but that would be in poor taste
Canadian youth are more mature and responsible than American kids..I say leave it at 21....Dhttp://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/08/21/drinking.age/index.html
It's 18 here and 19 in most of Canada. 21 seems too high to me.
This would be the problem NZ has at the moment. 2 years ago they lowered the age from 20 to 18, cue masses of insanely drunk kid's in town causing problems for everyone.Canadian youth are more mature and responsible than American kids..I say leave it at 21....D
I agree.This would be the problem NZ has at the moment. 2 years ago they lowered the age from 20 to 18, cue masses of insanely drunk kid's in town causing problems for everyone.
I feel that before you can lower it in bars and the like you MUST get a social engineering program going to change peoples attitude to drink from what we (and you in the US) have to the mainland European one where alcohol is a part of life around the family home (eg: glass of wine or beer with dinner) from quite an early age like 7 or 8. So that by the time the brain development changes that come with puberty arrive, alcohol is viewed as a normal part of life and not a target that means they are suddenly adults!
The French and Italian attitude as two examples show that binge drinking while not eliminated (that is just never going to happen) it is very minimal in comparison to what we have.
Ding ding ding. We have a winner. This is how it should be. Permit parents to expose their children to alcohol in a responsible manner and they might not go crazy with the likker when they get the opportunity to get it for themselves whenever they want.The issue isn't with the drinking age in the US; it has to do with the stigma associated with alcohol that is taught to all children (and drugs too, but that's another topic). If we, as parents and Americans, can expose our children to alcohol in moderation, perhaps we can minimize the amount of binge drinking they will engage in once they're on their own. The key is to teach moderation to children while they're still impressionable and under your roof.
[ed for clarity] no, as the older you get, the more there is at risk of losing (career, family, etc.)Okay, a valid question based on the topic...
If a younger group of society is allowed to drink, 19 and 20 year olds, do you believe they will drink and drive at the same percentage as those in the 21-2x age group?
Wow. that's an awesome point. i never thought about it like that but isn't it mostly the people that don't have much to lose that end up screwing over the people that do? I.E. when drunk driver hits van full of family...yes, as the older you get, the more there is at risk of losing (career, family, etc.)
I agree 100% in talking with kids here and observing their behaviour...they don't see alcohol as such a big deal....the kids aren't sitting around and praying for the day they turn 19....DThis would be the problem NZ has at the moment. 2 years ago they lowered the age from 20 to 18, cue masses of insanely drunk kid's in town causing problems for everyone.
I feel that before you can lower it in bars and the like you MUST get a social engineering program going to change peoples attitude to drink from what we (and you in the US) have to the mainland European one where alcohol is a part of life around the family home (eg: glass of wine or beer with dinner) from quite an early age like 7 or 8. So that by the time the brain development changes that come with puberty arrive, alcohol is viewed as a normal part of life and not a target that means they are suddenly adults!
The French and Italian attitude as two examples show that binge drinking while not eliminated (that is just never going to happen) it is very minimal in comparison to what we have.
You make that sound like a bad thing...Yup. You get college kids out on their own for the first time and drinking is a novelty....you end up with peopel drinking themselves to death.
i can tell you that a good portion of those who would drink and drive if they could legally drink are already doing so. at the very least, that's my observation of my hometown, where underage drinking is rampant.If a younger group of society is allowed to drink, 19 and 20 year olds, do you believe they will drink and drive at the same percentage as those in the 21-2x age group?
if we're talking how does avg loser affect avg winner in life, well it would be fair to say being hit by a drunk driver might not be in the top 5but isn't it mostly the people that don't have much to lose that end up screwing over the people that do? I.E. when drunk driver hits van full of family...
on bases servicemen who are 18 years old have no problem getting a beer from the watering hole.If you can die in a war @ 18 you should be able to drink a beer at 18 too...