Either that or W will give 'em a pardon.valve bouncer said:Wonder how much time they'll actually do? I'm guessing less than 3 years each, max. The appeals process will drag on for years while they're out on bail. By the time comes to put in both in the slammer properly they'll probably have their sentences reduced because they'll be too old.
How expensive do you think their lawyers were? For the money they spent, you better believe those lawyers had every single possible trick in play: focus groups, motions for this that and the other thing, etc. Maybe the jurors had prejudices coming in, but a really good law team can go a long way in overcoming that sort of problem.DRB said:I'm just going to throw this out there for sh!ts and giggles.
Do you think that they got a "fair" trial? Or did the jury just already have it in their mind that they were going to jail?
I often wonder about these high profile cases that get so much media attention (ala the Duke Lacrosse case, OJ) and exactly how fair these trials are ever going to be.
Judge Lake will have broad discretion in determining their sentences. Federal judges have imposed harsher sentences on white-collar executives in recent years. Mr. Ebbers was sentenced to 25 years, and John J. Rigas of the cable operator Adelphia Communications was sentenced to 15 years.valve bouncer said:Wonder how much time they'll actually do? I'm guessing less than 3 years each, max. The appeals process will drag on for years while they're out on bail. By the time comes to put in both in the slammer properly they'll probably have their sentences reduced because they'll be too old.
LOL, yeah the ultra-rich never get a fair trial!DRB said:I'm just going to throw this out there for sh!ts and giggles.
Do you think that they got a "fair" trial? Or did the jury just already have it in their mind that they were going to jail?
I often wonder about these high profile cases that get so much media attention (ala the Duke Lacrosse case, OJ) and exactly how fair these trials are ever going to be.
Don't post here much do you? You just got reeled in my son.Chunky Munkey said:Which hunt? You gotta be kidding me!!? No offence but are you a REAL Muppet!? There were people counting on retiring and lost all their retirement based on what that man and Skilling said and did! Good riddance! Where's Sammy Gravano when you need him...
Yo!
Not sure what you mean, if I broke some rule or something but I changed my post just to keep the peace. But let's face it, there are old people that put their fortune into that company, and the CEO told the stock holders everything was fine and to buy the stock up to the last minute so he could get as much out of his as he could.valve bouncer said:Don't post here much do you? You just got reeled in my son.
Nice catch there MMike.
MMike was being sarcastic in his original post mate. He is usually pretty liberal in his views. Sheesh, noobs.Chunky Munkey said:Not sure what you mean, if I broke some rule or something but I changed my post just to keep the peace. But let's face it, there are old people that put their fortune into that company, and the CEO told the stock holders everything was fine and to buy the stock up to the last minute so he could get as much out of his as he could.
Meanwhile he unloaded his. He wouldn't have been found guilty if he did nothing wrong. My opinion.
Just remember that there are gangs of ravenous fact checkers in the Politics forum. They'll tear you to shreds if anything is posted that isn't 100% accurate.Chunky Munkey said:Oh, I thought you were bustin on me for making a website error. Sorry. Just voicing my freedom of speech. It's all about greed in this country. Guys like Lay. Guys like the Exxon CEO making 600MILLION a year salary... We are headed for a depression cuz the rich get richer and the poor can't get ahead.
Yeh I am a noob. What ya gonna do... I mean look at my picture, can't you see the blank stair?
That should be "is a gang". Please take time to reflect on your sloppy grammar. See you in a month.H8R said:Just remember that there are a gang of ravenous fact checkers in the Politics forum. They'll tear you to shreds if anything is posted that isn't 100% accurate.
Oh, AND you'll be banned.
No, it's "are gangs".valve bouncer said:That should be "is a gang". Please take time to reflect on your sloppy grammar. See you in a month.
He's skating on liberal good will for now.Changleen said:Wow, a 35 post pillar, Impressive!
People pay me 5000 yen an hour for what you just got for free mate. Don't be so bloody ungrateful.:mumble: :mumble:H8R said:No, it's "are gangs".
It's fixed.
Thank you Mr. Graham Grammarson.
You get 5000 yen an hour to stir sh1t?valve bouncer said:People pay me 5000 yen an hour for what you just got for free mate. Don't be so bloody ungrateful.:mumble: :mumble:
Gay protitutes mainly...H8R said:You get 5000 yen an hour to stir sh1t?
Ya gotta go with what you're good at. I see you as a "soup man".H8R said:You get 5000 yen an hour to stir sh1t?
Eh...it's a living I guess.
.valve bouncer said:Ya gotta go with what you're good at. I see you as a "soup man".