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So, About That New Bike Day...

johnbryanpeters

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mandown said:
The trail split after a fire road break. My buddy took the B line and saw it. He called out a ladder to small drop, so I figured it was easy enough to hit Blind. He knew my skills and gave me the green. I was having a blast and feeling like I had been riding strong all day on much bigger/tougher features.

If I had pumped my fork up, then I’d be rolling a lot less crippled these days.
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Yeah, sometimes I follow in faith, have learned a lot like that. I am willing to die.
 
Jozz

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johnbryanpeters said:
Yeah, sometimes I follow in faith, have learned a lot like that. I am willing to die.
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Reminds me of a teeter totter incident involving Deyv. He was following me in faith, but way to closely... let just say that the teeter did not tott as expected... :dead:
 
Toshi

Toshi

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Note that the C in ACL and PCL is different than the C in MCL (and LCL). Cruciate vs collateral.
 
mandown

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rideit said:
It was a rental, praise jeebus.
But actually, it was fine.
I’m not picking up the new bike until March or so.
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Ugh. My first trip to the Whistler ER was thanks to a rental. I had an early Marz Dirt Jumper bolted on the front of a Brodie (they initially told me I’d be getting a Stinky with a Super T, and my ride at home was a Stinky). On a moderate Schleyer drop the fork snapped both tubes and I face planted hard. Concussion. Might’ve dislocated my shoulder on that one. Just another time I woke up in a hospital.
 
Jm_

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mandown said:
Ugh. My first trip to the Whistler ER was thanks to a rental. I had an early Marz Dirt Jumper bolted on the front of a Brodie (they initially told me I’d be getting a Stinky with a Super T, and my ride at home was a Stinky). On a moderate Schleyer drop the fork snapped both tubes and I face planted hard. Concussion. Might’ve dislocated my shoulder on that one. Just another time I woke up in a hospital.
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I think some of that is flat out negligent and waiting for savvy lawyer to come along (possibly the one that rented) and just rip them a new one. When you go to rent a bike at a park and they don't actually have springs to tune it to your weight, you'll be overpowering the damping if you are heavier and if lighter, it'll be a jackhammer that will bounce all over the place and make you lose control. This is one reason I'm a fan of air-shocks/forks, for setting up for stuff like this. So they basically rented you a fork that hydro-locks on any kind of sudden impact, like any rough terrain which isn't a smooth dirt jump, probably transferring that force to the crown/steerer/stanchion interface, which over time developed a crack and failed.

IMO, if you are renting a park bike you need to put suspension and brakes on it that will work and maintain that shit. No one gives a F about the handlebars, cranks, seatpost, seat, etc., but the goddamn suspension and brakes better work.
 
mandown

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Jm_ said:
I think some of that is flat out negligent and waiting for savvy lawyer to come along (possibly the one that rented) and just rip them a new one. When you go to rent a bike at a park and they don't actually have springs to tune it to your weight, you'll be overpowering the damping if you are heavier and if lighter, it'll be a jackhammer that will bounce all over the place and make you lose control. This is one reason I'm a fan of air-shocks/forks, for setting up for stuff like this. So they basically rented you a fork that hydro-locks on any kind of sudden impact, like any rough terrain which isn't a smooth dirt jump, probably transferring that force to the crown/steerer/stanchion interface, which over time developed a crack and failed.

IMO, if you are renting a park bike you need to put suspension and brakes on it that will work and maintain that shit. No one gives a F about the handlebars, cranks, seatpost, seat, etc., but the goddamn suspension and brakes better work.
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Yeah. That fork famously snapped. It was a bad Marz product and my rental bike wasn’t the only one that cracked like that.
Whatever. I survived and my life wasn’t radically altered. I signed a waiver. I knew what I did was risky. I’m alive. I’m not worried about shaking down Whistler’s bike rental for a few ducats. The value of the story is worth it.
 
Jm_

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mandown said:
I survived and my life wasn’t radically altered. I signed a waiver.
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These days I write on the waiver that they have not set the bike up for my weight and that the springs are wrong. I remember demoing skis and they wouldn't set it higher than 8 or something. Sure enough, ski popped off in chute when I was skiing NORMALLY and I skid head-down like 500 feet on a double black. They gave me skis that wouldn't work on the entire mountain, even though I told them what level I was. No where did it say "don't ski all of the mountain" on the waiver or setup. So these days I write their negligence/inability to make the equipment safe on the "waiver". Drives them nuts. "You can't do that!". "I just did".
 
mandown

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Jm_ said:
These days I write on the waiver that they have not set the bike up for my weight and that the springs are wrong. I remember demoing skis and they wouldn't set it higher than 8 or something. Sure enough, ski popped off in chute when I was skiing NORMALLY and I skid head-down like 500 feet on a double black. They gave me skis that wouldn't work on the entire mountain, even though I told them what level I was. No where did it say "don't ski all of the mountain" on the waiver or setup. So these days I write their negligence/inability to make the equipment safe on the "waiver". Drives them nuts. "You can't do that!". "I just did".
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Legally, I don’t think any waiver can waive negligence regardless of what you write or don’t write on it. I recall something about this in a law class from many years ago.
 
Jm_

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mandown said:
Legally, I don’t think any waiver can waive negligence regardless of what you write or don’t write on it. I recall something about this in a law class from many years ago.
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I'm just adding to the evidence. ;)
 
jonKranked

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the first time i took a rental bike for a run was also the last. i was bottoming it out maybe every 50 feet, and this wasn't on difficult terrain. took one run, gave it back.
 
Toshi

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jonKranked said:
the first time i took a rental bike for a run was also the last. i was bottoming it out maybe every 50 feet, and this wasn't on difficult terrain. took one run, gave it back.
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When I rented a coil sprung bike at Winter Park with the @6thElement s I swear I clipped a pedal while just pedaling along seated on flat ground.
 
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If he's going to be a triathlete all Monkey's should be aware to not follow or let him follow too closely while riding.
 
Nick

Nick

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rideit said:
So it looks like I am getting a Stryker Triathalon model knee replacement.
Titanium.
Let the jokes commence.
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I have a friend at Stryker in another division. Want me to see if we can get you some bonus ti polish or aftermarket pig ass-valves or something?
 
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