So, I need a new truck
- Thread starter Quo Fan
- Start date
There is no substitute for Tacoma base 4X4 with very few options except for one with more options. Get another one. 
as much as I hate toyotas, and I hate foreign vehicles, the tacoma owns the small truck market, other than another one, your options are a colorado or ranger (IMO) and the toyota is probably a better option....I had one, it blew up, but i was super hard on it, so I can only fault it so much.
Having owned a Canyon, Dakota still do and now a Tacoma double cab 4x4 Dont WASTE your time looking at anything other than the Tacoma believe me it is light yrs ahead of the others.
There is no substitute for Tacoma base 4X4 with very few options except for one with more options. Get another one.
Go American!!
A nice Caterpillar 797 would be perfect for you
A nice Caterpillar 797 would be perfect for you
And neither of them have "plenty of power".
They're both fine if you're not the sort of guy who needs to drive around in a mobile phallus enhancer. Are they fast? No. Will they get you from a to b fine? Yes.
I'll amend my last statement. I've driven an older Frontier, circa 2000, with a manual trans, and it was OK. A newer one, 2007 I think, with an auto sucked balls. I've liked every Taco I've driven, even ones with the 4 pot and an auto.
Check out a 1st-gen access cab Tundra. 6' bed, fairly small by full-size truck standards, but a bit bigger than a Tacoma. Can't get the V6 with the 4x4 option, but the 4.7L V8 compliments the size of that truck nicely.
I have a couple of griped about my newer Taco, but overall, it's a great truck.
It has plenty of power. 260hp is plenty, unless you are towing 10k, in which case, you wouldn't be looking at a midsize.
It has plenty of power. 260hp is plenty, unless you are towing 10k, in which case, you wouldn't be looking at a midsize.
I've got a 2wd 04 frontier. Power is lacking but it does it's job.
it's got about 75K on it now and I have yet to invest any serious money into it. There is a rattling under the hood though
I'm pretty sure it's the evaporation purge valve since it comes and goes and appears to be coming from that valve when I open the hood and rev the engine. that's a 100$ valve.
Huh, unless you are buying used I guess this is a pointless post since they have changed the frontiers around since when I bought one.
it's got about 75K on it now and I have yet to invest any serious money into it. There is a rattling under the hood though
I'm pretty sure it's the evaporation purge valve since it comes and goes and appears to be coming from that valve when I open the hood and rev the engine. that's a 100$ valve.Huh, unless you are buying used I guess this is a pointless post since they have changed the frontiers around since when I bought one.
Taco... Period.
I ended up with a DC LB. But, I have a family of four that it must fit comfortably for vacations, etc.
My only gripe?
It's one LONG mofo...and that it had the turning radius of my 94 4Runner.... I just shed a tear... I miss that thing...
Loaded down and driving over 400 miles one way on the last vacation? Just shy of 22mpg....
If you're leaning Nissan? Check out the new Suzuki.... Same truck...
I ended up with a DC LB. But, I have a family of four that it must fit comfortably for vacations, etc.
My only gripe?
It's one LONG mofo...and that it had the turning radius of my 94 4Runner.... I just shed a tear... I miss that thing...
Loaded down and driving over 400 miles one way on the last vacation? Just shy of 22mpg....
If you're leaning Nissan? Check out the new Suzuki.... Same truck...
I've driven a couple Tacos and both Frontiers as shuttle trucks with 6 people and bikes in them up some steep stuff. They're fine. Admittedly the one I've driven most is the Taco with the 6cyl and a manual, so that helps a lot, but still.
I've got an 05 TRD ex cab standard bed.
LOVE this truck.
Driven the hell out of it. 75k and still running like a champ.
LOVE this truck.
Driven the hell out of it. 75k and still running like a champ.
I've had 2 in the last 10 years, without EVER using the warranty once.
Oh, No Recalls either.
I love mine, & will be getting another in a few years.
BTW How can people say that yoda's are any good at all with all of the problems they have? Seriously?
Oh, No Recalls either.
I love mine, & will be getting another in a few years.
BTW How can people say that yoda's are any good at all with all of the problems they have? Seriously?
Last edited:
Problems? What problems?
So you're the guy with the 1 hassle free Chevy.I've had 2 in the last 10 years, without EVER using the warranty once.
Oh, No Recalls either.
I love mine, & will be getting another in a few years.
BTW How can people say that yoda's are any good at all with all of the problems they have? Seriously?
The american car companies are really at the bottom of the industry right now. The only people that still buy them are dickheads that think they're helping the country. Even though a lot of the jobs they create have been outsourced to mexicoI've had 2 in the last 10 years, without EVER using the warranty once.
Oh, No Recalls either.
I love mine, & will be getting another in a few years.
BTW How can people say that yoda's are any good at all with all of the problems they have? Seriously?
While at the same time, foreign car companies are expanding and actually creating jobs in the us by opening factories here. So there is pretty much no reason to buy a sh!tty domestic car.So go get yourself another tacoma!
Taco options are so f-ed up depending on where you live.
I like the Tundra but don't want the extended cab, but I do want the 5.7 and 4wd.
I like the Tundra but don't want the extended cab, but I do want the 5.7 and 4wd.
Ive been reading this thread trying to figure what the hell a "Taco" is. Is it really that hard to just go ahead and spell the whole word? Is leaving out those last two letters saving you time?
if money was no object, i'd get the ford svt raptor in a heartbeat. 
I think they just like saying "taco".
The shuttle vehicle of choice here in AZ is the Tacoma. No question. A friend of mine has an older quad cab, short bed. We've taken that thing all over, Cali, Utah, shuttling with 8 bikes and people up a nasty 4x4 only road. It has been SOLID.
Mine was crashed a couple of times and had dents on ever body panel, it truly was a taco.
"Tacos" tag added.
No, the tundras suck in every category and every year, they are not good trucks, stick with the tacoma.
Nope, I have had TONS of them.
Being uneducated on the actual subject must hurt.The american car companies are really at the bottom of the industry right now. The only people that still buy them are dickheads that think they're helping the country. Even though a lot of the jobs they create have been outsourced to mexico
So go get yourself another tacoma!
Yes, the Tacoma is the downsized truck market killer for a reason, but american car companies as a whole are NOT at the bottom of the industry.
You also have a very poor understanding of the economy and corporations effects on jobs. But, nice try.
I have a z71 and I am planning on running it to the ground. 400k here I come!I've had 2 in the last 10 years, without EVER using the warranty once.
Oh, No Recalls either.
I love mine, & will be getting another in a few years.
BTW How can people say that yoda's are any good at all with all of the problems they have? Seriously?
Haha, are you kidding? I mean, do you actually believe what you just wrote?
American cars suck in comparison to almost any other car on the market.
Example: The base model difference between a Mazda3 and a Ford Focus is hilarious. Theyre the same car, about the same price and the Mazda is loaded with features. Plus the ford is ugly as hell.
Dodge Avenger Vs. Camery, it's about as one sided as it gets.
American cars are a joke. End of story. Buying one is a poor life decision.
Also, if giving Americans a job is a high priority behind purchasing a car then don't buy from a GM, Ford, Chyrsler, etc. Unemployment is pretty freaking high. GM building in Mexico does not help anyone. Toyota building in the US helps many.
It's my second one & the first was great too.
So have the 8 that my father has had over the last 25 years.
On a Chevy:
The frames don't rot out in 5 years.
The front ends don't blow out in 2.
The exhaust systems don't rattle off in under a year.
& the gas pedals don't stick, causing the death of my family...
I'm very good friends with a toyota mechanic. The first time he opened the hood of my truck, he looked at me & said. "Wow, I wish a Tacoma engine looked like that."
For some reason there is a huge dissconnect with a lot of the young folks between buying American & the cause of 15 MILLION people being unemployed ATM..
You will never convince the cubicle jockeys sadly enough. The only way that people will learn is when they are on the bread line. Right now there are 15 million of them learning the hard way...
Anyone that thinks that it doesn't matter: Good luck feeding your family when you lose your job.
I own an AMERICAN business that Americans support, so I support other American businesses. Simple math.
Red Rabbit is right. Many "domestics" are made in Canada or Mexico, whereas many "imports" are actually made in the continental US of A.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/06/19/automobiles/20090619-auto-plants-4.html
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/06/19/automobiles/20090619-auto-plants-4.html
Try apples to apples next time?
I really hate having this argument with retards.
Compact Car
Ford Focus
Honda Civic
Hyundai Elant
Domestic, 1st place.
Midsize Car
Honda Accord
Ford Fusion
Chevrolet Malibu
2 out of the top 3
Midsize Sporty
Ford Mustang
Dodge Challenger
hmmm
Large Car
Ford Taurus
Buick Lucerne
Nissan Maxima
Top 2 out of 3....
Entry Premium Car
Mercedes-Benz C-Class
Acura TL
Cadillac CTS
Look at that, we are comparing apples to apples and the domestics are holding their own...need I continue?
Compact MPV
Scion xB
Chrysler PT Cruiser Wagon
Nissan Cube
wow even the pt cruiser is making marks.
Midsize Crossover/SUV
Honda Accord Crosstour
Honda Pilot
Ford Edge
Another top 3 finish.
Large Crossover/SUV
Chevrolet Tahoe
Chevrolet Suburban
GMC Yukon
No domestics here....
Large Premium Crossover/SUV
Cadillac Escalade
Mercedes-Benz GL-Class
Infiniti QX56 (tie)
Land Rover Range Rover (tie)
another top finisher.....
Large Pickup
Chevrolet Avalanche (tie)
GMC Sierra LD (tie)
Ford F-150 LD
hmmmmmm
Midsize Pickup
Nissan Frontier
Ford Ranger
Ford Explorer Sport Trac
Damn, where did the toyota go?
2010 initial quality ratings from JD Power.....
Sure there are divisions where the Big Three didn't have a car in the caregory, but in most of those cases they didn't really make a car for that category. See for yourself. http://www.jdpower.com/autos/articles/2010-Initial-Quality-Study-Results/page-27
I'm not saying the domestics are the best in all categories by any means, but for anyone to make a blanket statement that all imports are better clearly shows ignorance. These are initial quality results, but I dont really feel like digging for much more, If you have something to add that is constructive I'd be willing to discuss, but if you don't I won't waste my time.
A few fun facts on the number of employees in the US.
thats still 40,000 MORE people than toyota...add GM's 5800+ dealers, and a conservative 6 employees per dealership and you have another 35,000 people to add to the list.
1500 Toyota dealers, 5800 GM dealers.....
Yup, your right, toyota has a way bigger impact on the number of jobs in the us
let's also keep in mind that toyota does assemble vehicles in the US, but where is the majority of the design, engineering, etc done? Oh yeah, japan. Toyota ships assemblies to the us.
Do you know how many automotive suppliers are building parts right outside my window for GM, Ford, Chrysler and shipping those parts to Canada or Mexico to be assembled? meanwhile all of the designers, mechanical engineers, electrical engineers, quality engineers, program managers, account managers, buyers, testers, validation engineers, etc. are here in the US working on these vehicles?
Last edited:
It's such a simple concept to grasp, yet people seem to have the hardest time figuring it out.
I can see this subject has soared right passed your head too.....instead of listening to some idiot from the ny times talk about something he has no clue about, try searching around for some facts and finding some of the answers yourself.