Hey SCARY, how tall are you?
So,now I'm seriously thinking 29r.
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Fortunately I have some very good friends at Cane Creek. I am doing some testing for them.
So far I can't tell much difference from my coil CCDB, if any at all.
No. He took the power back.
By the way Larry, JP and I talked yesterday about you and he said you need a hug. I think you need a bitch slap.
I don't if it's a hug I need,but I'm gettin it from his wife.
5'11"
Looks cool, but criminy, a 66.5* HA? And I thought the Yelli Screamy was slack.
Good on'em for making it with a 17" CS so it's wheelbase isn't crazy long.
Good on'em for making it with a 17" CS so it's wheelbase isn't crazy long.
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different size wheels are just silly IMO.
+you can't steal a wheel from one bike to the other if you need a spare in a pinch
+you can't stick a DH tire on the rear of the trail bike if you are looking to pin some pedal access ultra rockiness
+as of this minutes there is a lack of decent tires for both sizes, the best you can get is a 29'er ardent/hans dampf or a 27.5 racing ralph. yuck. at least you could run a happy medium or cross mark 2.25 if you live in the dry on a 29'er.
+other wheel sizes = no DHF, no BBG, no HR2, no MM, no Butcher, etc...
just some food for thought.
+you can't steal a wheel from one bike to the other if you need a spare in a pinch
+you can't stick a DH tire on the rear of the trail bike if you are looking to pin some pedal access ultra rockiness
+as of this minutes there is a lack of decent tires for both sizes, the best you can get is a 29'er ardent/hans dampf or a 27.5 racing ralph. yuck. at least you could run a happy medium or cross mark 2.25 if you live in the dry on a 29'er.
+other wheel sizes = no DHF, no BBG, no HR2, no MM, no Butcher, etc...
just some food for thought.
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not this again....The 29er hate thing is played out. We get it, some people don't like 29ers. I used to think the 29er people were annoying but I think the anti 29er people are even moar annoying. We're all here to ride bikes, have fun and geek out over new bikes and products, whatever size they might be.
no hate. i didn't call 29'er riders all a bunch of leg shaving d-bag road biker pansies.
i just said there are things to consider that plenty of folks don't realize or think about when all they read is fluff about how incredible 29ers are.
i just said there are things to consider that plenty of folks don't realize or think about when all they read is fluff about how incredible 29ers are.
seriously. So many of the arguments in this thread are hashed out and useless. I tried it but decided 29ers aren't for me. I'd love to try that Devinci, but I can't afford it. Even the tire argument is tired- most of the same tires that anybody would actually want to ride on a 26 are available in 29. 650b is still the ugly duckling but the neo motos are really good. If you need double ply super sticky tires, you probably shouldn't be on a 29er anyways. For most people, Schwalbe's nobby nics are good, neverrolls are good, or many others.
I <3 29ers
Funny how the stars align like that eh? I had a lot of fun on that rig.
I just got an aluminum 26'er and you know what? I love it! It happens to be a 2012 5Spot, but that doesn't matter. I think the psychology is the same as it has always been, new $hit is awesome. I could care less about your penny farther w/ flexy wheels and how it rolls over mountains with a single pedal stroke. It's still on two wheels, and requires pedalling, and if you're good, you'll figure out how to turn, jump and pump the thing. It's all good. I'll still talk $hit about your bike. Why? Cuz no matter what brand or type, it's not as good as mine ;-)
I fully expect you to talk $hit back, too. That's what bros are for. It's more fun that way.
As someone more wiser than myself said: Eff em if they can't take a joke...
I fully expect you to talk $hit back, too. That's what bros are for. It's more fun that way.
As someone more wiser than myself said: Eff em if they can't take a joke...
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just how drunk are you right now?
Pretty much every tire except for the Minion is available in 29" sizes. Even the Butcher. Your argument is invalid.
Your bike sucks b/c it doesn't have enough travel. Just 10mm away from being truly bada$$, too...
do people really ride DH casings on their trailbikes? I mean, lots of people are switching to the 1.5ply exo casings to save weight on their downhill bikes(they apparently don't get pinchflats). Would you really want to lug a double ply tire up for a little extra protection down?
I have one do-it-all bike and, when I shuttle, I run DH casing. Where I shuttle, we have rocks that will flat non DH casing tires lick-a-de split.
Oh yeah...for a do-it-all bike, especially one that sees shuttles, I'd have a hard time picking a bigwheel bike. I thought we were talking about a trailbike, like one that you pedal up first.
Some times I pedal, some times I shuttle and I have one bike. Tire choice is a huge plus.
Shiii....its not the amount of travel, it's the quality travel. Mines still better.
[Nelson's voice] HA HA! [/Nelson's voice]
how many dh riders do you think ride exo's front and rear on their downhill bike? 2%? less?
i personally ride EXO style casing on my trail bike full-time for xc riding, and put DH rubber on the rear when the trail so requires (i.e. rocky fast full-DH descent, but pedal access). lots of high-alpine rides out there...
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Butcher 29x2.3 was only just introduced to our dealers at our launch a couple weeks ago (along with our updated Purgatory 29x2.3 and Ground Control 29x2.3). None of that new 2013 product is on our site yet, but should be available for the shops to order very soon.
To clarify, is that in DH, SX, Grid, or what casing?
Butcher 29x2.3 is available only in Control casing for now.
Purg 29x2.3 and GC 29x2.3 will be available in Control and Grid casing.
Purg 29x2.3 and GC 29x2.3 will be available in Control and Grid casing.
I'm still running Michelin Dh tires on my trail bike with XC tubes. Grip and feel of the trail with similar rubber compound is my #1 love of tires.
Awesome...29x2.3 Butcher..gonna raise the bar!
Although I wonder if 26" tire design necessarily carries over to 29". We all know you have to lean a 29er more in the corners, so does that mean a rounder profile will be better? Intermediate blocks more necessary?
I like my Ardent 29x2.4s, but I've never compared them to anything else, so I can't really say what I'm missing...
Although I wonder if 26" tire design necessarily carries over to 29". We all know you have to lean a 29er more in the corners, so does that mean a rounder profile will be better? Intermediate blocks more necessary?
I like my Ardent 29x2.4s, but I've never compared them to anything else, so I can't really say what I'm missing...
We haven't yet found a compelling reason to change the tire designs between 26 and 29er (expect for minor changes in pitch (circumferential spacing). Obviously there's those in this thread that have figured out that you can really lean the bikes over, but more commonly we find that riders tend to stay more upright on their 29ers (especially beginners and xc riders). We used to assume that the latter riders would need more intermediate knobs and less cornering knobs, but testing hasn't always been consistent.
More often than not, we find that the 26" designs translate just fine to 29". If you like the butcher on your 26, you'll like it on your 29. Same goes for Ground Controls, Fast Traks, etc. It's more a matter of how you as an individual ride, not how your bike rides.