So now she wants MI and FL to count?


A fowl peckerwood.
Sep 5, 2001
just sittin' here drinkin' scotch
I heard on NPR today that Hill-dog wants those primaries to count....even though she was the only name on the ballot in MI....I guess she's getting nervous.

I won't even pretend to understand how the delegate/primary/caucus thing works....but I don't get how you can change the rules all of a sudden. And how can you even decide that a state won't count to begin with??

America is weird...


unique white person
Sep 21, 2001
The leader of the naacp said awhile back he thought those primaries should count also.


Jul 10, 2006
Salem, MA
Clinton had said before New Hampshire that she didn't think they should count because they knew the rules and they broke them.
After Supa Tues, she changed her tune because her "inevitable" win might need some help.
She's a dirty politician. This is just making more people realize it.


Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
it's far worse:
Harold Ickes, a top adviser to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign who voted for Democratic Party rules that stripped Michigan and Florida of their delegates, now is arguing against the very penalty he helped pass.

In a conference call Saturday, the longtime Democratic Party member contended the DNC should reconsider its tough sanctions on the two states, which held early contests in violation of party rules. He said millions of voters in Michigan and Florida would be otherwise disenfranchised - before acknowledging moments later that he had favored the sanctions.

Ickes explained that his different position essentially is due to the different hats he wears as both a DNC member and a Clinton adviser in charge of delegate counting. Clinton won the primary vote in Michigan and Florida, and now she wants those votes to count.

"There's been no change," Ickes said. "I was not acting as an agent of Mrs. Clinton. We had promulgated rules and those rules said the timing provision ... provides for certain sanctions, automatic sanctions as a matter of fact, if a state such as Michigan or Florida violates those timing provisions."

"With respect to the stripping, I voted as a member of the Democratic National Committee. Those were our rules and I felt I had an obligation to enforce them," he said.

Ickes' dual positions on the issue illustrate some of the internal division within the party as Clinton and Obama run neck-in-neck in the Democratic presidential race.
i think this alone should disqualify her as a viable candidate ready to lead the country.


The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
Portland, OR
They should have a recount. Florida is good at those, right?

I think if they did a "do over" like Washington last night, she would lose her ass.