I wonder if Jello Biafra will write another song about brown 
So... predictions for tonight?
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That was hysterical. And sadly true.
In related LULZ, the Alaska senatorial ship is currently being piloted by some one named "total write-in". Huh, never heard of him.
total write in isn't sarah palin so things should be ok
The only sliver of hope out this debacle is that Clinton had to deal with a Republican Congress, and we did pretty well then.
Possibly the idea of true deadlock will scare the crap out of the Republican leadership and they will actually work to solve our problems.
Possibly the idea of true deadlock will scare the crap out of the Republican leadership and they will actually work to solve our problems.
It certainly boosted Clinton's approval ratings in the mid 1990s. What's interesting is that at least for taxes, the GOP **has** to negotiate. If nothing gets done (yay gridlock!!) the tax rates go back up Jan 1. Might be interesting to watch...
Republicans are still not willing to say what programs they'll cut in order to a) balance the budget and b) MORE TAX CUTS!!
And doing the same thing to lockheed and martin would yield what exactly?GO ahead and back govt subsidies out of those profits and come back to me.
I mean hell that's the exact same way those guys got going so what the fvck is your argument again?
"keep your hands off my jew gold" is the answer.
As did Reagan have to work with a Democratic Congress and they did OK in some respects.
This was mentioned on one of the news shows and the point was made that the difference then was that Clinton certainly did not like Newt and the other Republican leaders and Reagan did not like Tip O'Neil but they had a certain amount of respect for each other professionally and had mastered the most crucial of political talents...compromise.
Today it's just hatred, stubborness and ego. Witness the Party of No. No class and no willingness to debate vigorously yet repsect the other point of view, no matter how flawed you think it is.
Maybe Linda McMahon would have been a perfect fit...
^^^ Also keep in mind that much of the "balanced budget" (not really, after accounting for SS IOUs) was due to the fact that Clinton RAISED taxes in 1993 before the GOP swept into power. So we had an influx of revenue, and the GOP fought hard to ensure that spending was kept under control.
Now we're in a similar situation, but without the tax increase. There's no way the budget can be anywhere close to balanced without either a) gutting SS/Medicare (and by that I mean like NOW, as opposed to the gradual reduction like Paul Ryan's roadmap) *and* b) gutting the Dept of Defense.
Yeah, we're pretty much f***ed.
Now we're in a similar situation, but without the tax increase. There's no way the budget can be anywhere close to balanced without either a) gutting SS/Medicare (and by that I mean like NOW, as opposed to the gradual reduction like Paul Ryan's roadmap) *and* b) gutting the Dept of Defense.
Yeah, we're pretty much f***ed.
He was also serendipitously riding one of the most rapid periods of economic growth (bubble) in human history... that was certainly helpful to tax receipts as well.
Seren....serendip.... Why don't you talk american, you elitist!! ??
Uh, except that tax revenues were increasing from 1994 on, when the "internet" was primarily message boards and college students:
I'm not saying that the internet bubble didn't help, but the increase in revenue due to tax increases was definitely a part of it.
Oh yeah, and totally unrelated, but found this while looking for that graph: The Heritage Foundation's estimate of additional tax revenue brought in by the GWB tax cuts, dated 2001.
As a followup to this, Eric Cantor put out a 22-page proposal for Republicans, in which was this gem (used as an example to cut Medicare and Social Security):
Gee, I wonder where Republican voters got that idea....
Whole proposal here. He lists "savings" like preventing the IRS from hiring new agents to enforce Obamacare - $15 billion saved.
Stay classy, GOP.
Sounds like it's going to be an awesome 2 years.