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So what PAWN hay shall we make of this tragedy?

Where should we go with this?

  • See? Knives and cars kill people too! Should we ban them? Huh? Should we?

    Votes: 2 12.5%
  • See? Japanese police don’t have to shoot knife-wielding maniacs! American cops are thugs!

    Votes: 4 25.0%
  • A civilian with a gun could have ended this tragedy for sure.

    Votes: 3 18.8%
  • Make some weak connection to a taser.

    Votes: 2 12.5%
  • We are all horrendous people using tragedy for entertainment

    Votes: 5 31.3%

  • Total voters
    16

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
11,737
1,820
chez moi
There are so many angles.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-stab9-2008jun09,0,5331631.story

I am tired of the world,' suspect Tomohiro Kato, 25, tells police after the rampage in Tokyo's popular Akihabara electronics district.
By Bruce Wallace, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
June 9, 2008
TOKYO -- A lone attacker rammed a truck into pedestrians, then slashed his way with a survival knife through Sunday shopping crowds in one of Tokyo's most popular neighborhoods, killing seven people and wounding 10.

Police quoted Tomohiro Kato, 25, as saying he came to the Akihabara district, a canyon of computer and electronics stores, vowing to "kill people."


Video: Man goes on Tokyo stabbing spree
"I am tired of the world," the part-time worker in an auto parts plant reportedly told police after his arrest. "Anyone was OK."

Kato reportedly drove a rented 2-ton truck from his hometown of Susono, about 60 miles southwest of Tokyo, arriving in Akihabara around noon. The area, renowned as the center of Japan's anime and manga culture, is particularly clogged with shoppers on Sundays when its streets are closed to vehicles for "Pedestrian Paradise Day."

The assailant plowed the truck through a major intersection, knocking down at least three people before striking a taxi and stopping. Witnesses said the attacker then fled the damaged vehicle, furiously stabbing one of the injured pedestrians and a policeman who came to the aid of the victims.

He then bolted down a side street, stabbing others as he went and triggering confusion as thousands of shoppers surged to either escape the rampage or to get a closer look. Television footage showed the intersection littered with sneakers and bloody clothing.

The dead were six men ages 19 to 74 and a 21-year-old woman. A policeman ended the frenzy by knocking the knife from the attacker's hands with a nightstick. But the assailant did not surrender until the officer drew his gun. Video posted on Japanese websites showed a man identified as Kato, wearing a black T-shirt under a white suit and bleeding slightly from a head wound, with his hands raised. It then showed the policeman pushing him into a fetal position against a wall and sitting on his legs while using his radio to call for help.

Japan's recorded murder rate remains extremely low, but the country has been unsettled by other recent knife attacks. A 16-year-old boy attacked shoppers with knives in Tokyo in January, injuring two. In March, a man already wanted on murder charges stabbed eight people, killing one, outside a mall in Ibaraki prefecture north of the capital. Both are in custody.

Akihabara is one of the most popular tourist destinations in Japan, attracting those who are obsessed with video games, animated characters and cafes where young women dressed in maid uniforms serve coffee and conversation to young men.

The nature of the neighborhood ensured the killings received blanket media attention, spawning almost instant video images and blog reports.

Japanese media also reported they had discovered anonymous postings on a cellphone network bulletin board from someone vowing to "kill people in Akihabara." The person reportedly posted a series of messages leading up to the attack. The last entry was posted just after noon.

"It's time," it read.
 

DirtMcGirk

<b>WAY</b> Dumber than N8 (to the power of ten alm
Feb 21, 2008
6,379
1
Oz
How could you tell who had the knife? Japanese people all look the same...
I just pee'ed a little.

This is why when around large groups of Asians I either pack my gun or an atom bomb, either seem to work well on large knife wielding Japanese folk.
 

valve bouncer

Master Dildoist
Feb 11, 2002
7,843
114
Japan
Why were there no ninjas on the scene?
This was in Akihabara, the epi-centre of geekdom in the known world. When the guy attacked most people probably reached for their joysticks.
Anyway I doubt a gun would have stopped this as one of the people attacked was a traffic policeman, who I believe are armed. It was all over literally in seconds. Some of the footage I've seen was pretty raw.
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
11,737
1,820
chez moi
This is the first poll I've ever posted, I think. I didn't know people actually responded to these things.
 

SPINTECK

Turbo Monkey
Oct 16, 2005
1,370
0
abc
This was in Akihabara, the epi-centre of geekdom in the known world. When the guy attacked most people probably reached for their joysticks.
Anyway I doubt a gun would have stopped this as one of the people attacked was a traffic policeman, who I believe are armed. It was all over literally in seconds. Some of the footage I've seen was pretty raw.
I know you're anti gun, but to say a man who had time to stab 7-10 people would not have been stopped if citizens had guns is rediculous. IF that guy went on a similar rampage in texas or some other gun friendly state, he'd be shot. YOu could almost argue more people would be killed in the crossfire of gun yeilding citizens trying to shoot the pyscho first! But to say a gun would not have stopped this sooner is knuckin' futz!
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
14,591
6
I know you're anti gun, but to say a man who had time to stab 7-10 people would not have been stopped if citizens had guns is rediculous. IF that guy went on a similar rampage in texas or some other gun friendly state, he'd be shot. YOu could almost argue more people would be killed in the crossfire of gun yeilding citizens trying to shoot the pyscho first! But to say a gun would not have stopped this sooner is knuckin' futz!
only a van damme idiot would bring a gun to a kumite
 

sanjuro

Tube Smuggler
Sep 13, 2004
17,373
0
SF
I know you're anti gun, but to say a man who had time to stab 7-10 people would not have been stopped if citizens had guns is rediculous. IF that guy went on a similar rampage in texas or some other gun friendly state, he'd be shot. YOu could almost argue more people would be killed in the crossfire of gun yeilding citizens trying to shoot the pyscho first! But to say a gun would not have stopped this sooner is knuckin' futz!
I don't think it has anything to do with gun-wielding citizens, because if he gone a similar rampage in the US, he would have used a gun.
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
11,737
1,820
chez moi
"the assailant did not surrender until the police officer drew his gun"
 

valve bouncer

Master Dildoist
Feb 11, 2002
7,843
114
Japan
I know you're anti gun, but to say a man who had time to stab 7-10 people would not have been stopped if citizens had guns is rediculous. IF that guy went on a similar rampage in texas or some other gun friendly state, he'd be shot. YOu could almost argue more people would be killed in the crossfire of gun yeilding citizens trying to shoot the pyscho first! But to say a gun would not have stopped this sooner is knuckin' futz!
Did you not read the part where he stabbed a policeman? A policeman with a gun. It's reckoned that his truck plowing into the pedestrians killed 4 and he killed the other 3 with his knife. The area was so crowded that any shooting would have resulted in bystanders being hit.
 

SPINTECK

Turbo Monkey
Oct 16, 2005
1,370
0
abc
Did you not read the part where he stabbed a policeman? A policeman with a gun. It's reckoned that his truck plowing into the pedestrians killed 4 and he killed the other 3 with his knife. The area was so crowded that any shooting would have resulted in bystanders being hit.
like all those people hit in the church when the chick shot the assailant a few months ago??? (sarcasm- no one was hit but the shooter and people he shot)

as mmike pointed out, a gun stopped the guy.
 

valve bouncer

Master Dildoist
Feb 11, 2002
7,843
114
Japan
like all those people hit in the church when the chick shot the assailant a few months ago??? (sarcasm- no one was hit but the shooter and people he shot)

as mmike pointed out, a gun stopped the guy.
You seem to like to conveniently ignore the cop that was stabbed. The cop with a gun. That shoots bullets. A gun with bullets. Real ones.
Comparing a church, even a big one with one of the main shopping areas of one of the world's biggest cities is laughable. Obviously you've never been to Japan or you'd actually have some idea how crowded it would have been there. Suffice to say, a little busier than that church.
Suffice is also to say that the general response to this in Japan hasn't been "you know, if we had more guns maybe this wouldn't have been so bad".:disgust1:
 

sanjuro

Tube Smuggler
Sep 13, 2004
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You seem to like to conveniently ignore the cop that was stabbed. The cop with a gun. That shoots bullets. A gun with bullets. Real ones.
Comparing a church, even a big one with one of the main shopping areas of one of the world's biggest cities is laughable. Obviously you've never been to Japan or you'd actually have some idea how crowded it would have been there. Suffice to say, a little busier than that church.
Suffice is also to say that the general response to this in Japan hasn't been "you know, if we had more guns maybe this wouldn't have been so bad".:disgust1:
Seriously, the police are products of their environment anywhere. Do you think patrolmen in Watts or Detroit would let someone stab them? Or would cops in Boulder or Taos be prepared for a mass murderer?

Thankfully, this psycho only had knives, because imagine the body count if he had semi-automatic pistols.

Yes, if armed citizens were on the spot, this could have ended quickly. But if anyone could have gotten a gun, so could have this guy.
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
11,737
1,820
chez moi
The guy ran people with his car first, anyhow. The policeman was probably stabbed because he was ostensibly responding to help the victims of a car/pedestrian accident, not to stop a psycho killer. (Qu'est-ce que c'est?)

I'm sticking with the popular option in the poll.