[ChrisRobin]

I'm thinking along the lines of something that will leave pretty much exactly 8" of space between the tire and lower crown without having 2 or 3" of tube sticking out above the upper crown. Inverted and non-inverted. I remember reading in a thread a little while ago someone saying that White Bros 2.0 was short. Any info? Thanks!

 

[Transcend]

dude you worry too much. Just ride your damn bike!

 

[ChrisRobin]

Oh mon dieu!!

It's freezing out and I'm bored so let the next season window shopping begin!!!

 

[dropmachine]

Why shop for forks based on measurements? Try other ones, see what feels right regardless of what anyone says.

Run what feels right, not what looks good on paper.

 

[Mustang85]

I'm thinking along the lines of something that will leave pretty much exactly 8" of space between the tire and lower crown without having 2 or 3" of tube sticking out above the upper crown. Inverted and non-inverted. I remember reading in a thread a little while ago someone saying that White Bros 2.0 was short. Any info? Thanks!

The WB can be as close as your tire will let it...you basicly set the axel to crown hight with that fork...so yes its short

 

[Jm_]

My shiver has 190mm of travel.

There's about 193mm of clearence between the tires and crown. Very short for the travel, it's due to my head tube length (huge 1.5 headset) that makes me run it with the minimum amount of clearance possible.

That's 7.5" of travel, but its way shorter than an 888 or Stratos S8. The manitou X-works isn't happening for 2005, AND it's probably 190mm of trave + 10 negative (just like the dorado 180 is 170mm + 10mm negative), so the "travel" claim may or may not be realistic. The new boxxer may be pretty short.

 

[Jm_]

measured my shiver, it's 22 and 1/8". That's 562 A to C.

Just for comparission, my 6" single crown marzocchi is 538 A to C, it's less than an inch different.

 

[Curb Hucker]

i'll measure my WB 2.0 later, but yes it is one of the lowest if not the lowest 8in fork out there. (its the best feeling too)

 

[General Lee]

My 8" Boxxer measures a little under 22" axle-to-crown. gonna be hard to get any shorter than that.

 

[Brian HCM#1]

(its the best feeling too)

Compaired to none of the other forks you've tried

 

[Sandwich]

i'd wager that any of the forward axle inverted forks will give you the best range of adjustability, and therefore the ability to change it to where you like it. So long as the axle isn't under the legs and the fork is inverted you can get it pretty damn low.

 

[Toshi]

why does the axle being under the legs play into fork height?

 

[kidwoo]

ANY inverted 8 inch will be the lowest. The limiting factor is your tire on all inverted forks.

 

[ChrisRobin]

Why shop for forks based on measurements? Try other ones, see what feels right regardless of what anyone says.

Run what feels right, not what looks good on paper.

Fork height is only ONE of the things I'm looking at.

 

[Jm_]

ANY inverted 8 inch will be the lowest. The limiting factor is your tire on all inverted forks.

Yep..
Except for forks like the dorado, which are already very short, but due to the "bulge" type uppers, you don't have much up and down adjustment.

 

[vitox]

why does the axle being under the legs play into fork height?

its not goint to affect more than 2mm or so but it does, pretty much because of the same effect that makes the reverse arch on manitous and paces be shorter than a regular arch.

you see, when you offset the axle then the tire/fork clearance is now with regards to a portion of the tire not paralel to the fork and therefore you get a tiny bit more clearance, think what would happen if you had a huge amount of axle offset , so much that the tire might never touch the fork crown at all.

 

[vitox]

the WB has got to be the lowest of them all, the lower crown on the inverted WB forks is 17mm (5/8") thick at the point where it could hit the tire.

an 8" boxxer cant be set up all that low because the seals hit the top crown long before the tire gets close to the lower crown, but if you use a 3.0 front that might change.

you can set up a shiver to be pretty much as low as the WB but you have less travel, ive measured travel on lots of 03-04 2.0`s and its always been over 205mm.

 

[zedro]

dude, get the WB, just because its different. It'll distract attention away from the bike for next year....

 

[Curb Hucker]

dude, get the WB, just because its different. It'll distract attention away from the bike for next year....

It is different, not everybody has one like they do with the 888s. You can get it extremely low as vitox pointed out. The new 05s are going to be the best yet with 8.5in of bushing overlap (5 bushings per leg) which is more than any other fork out there, and they will have the air preload feature in the spring leg so you can change your air pressure to change your spring rate. All of the damping features from last year are pretty much the same, but the fork got a new improved look.

 

[UiUiUiUi]

sorry VV without any riding time nobody should make assumptions on the quality of a fork.

still i believe the white is a good fork.

 

[Toshi]

its not goint to affect more than 2mm or so but it does, pretty much because of the same effect that makes the reverse arch on manitous and paces be shorter than a regular arch.

you see, when you offset the axle then the tire/fork clearance is now with regards to a portion of the tire not paralel to the fork and therefore you get a tiny bit more clearance, think what would happen if you had a huge amount of axle offset , so much that the tire might never touch the fork crown at all.

thanks for the explanation.