Just cancelled both Whistler trips I had planned for summer. Family trip in July and boys trip in Sept. It sucks to hear they won't even be opening, but at this point, it is what it is.
So yeah, Whistler 2020
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I've been hanging onto the hope of Whistler opening up mid-season with limited trail access (since they wouldn't have time to go and fix and update all the trails there) but I don't think it's gonna happen....not because they think mountain bikers are the ones spreading, but like others said here, it's the damn crowds. North Vancouver has recently closed parts of the north shore mountains where people congregate (hikers and bikers). So main trailheads and parking areas, but the trails are 'technically' open.
What I see that's really annoying is all the people here in Vancouver hanging out in groups in the parks, playing soccer, walking around...etc. Just last week I started noticing 'rush hour traffic' was sorta becoming a thing again. So people are starting to get fed up and thinking the rules don't apply to them now that we're a few weeks into this...typical Vancouverites.
I don't believe for a second anything coming out of China. How the hell were they able to contain it to one area?? Meanwhile you see entire countries around the planet getting affected. Either they're just censoring everything (most likely) or they've forced people to stay inside, or forced them to quarantine or just plain killed a bunch of people (also likely).
The dark side of the force in me says open up everything as per normal - business as usual. If you get sick. Stay home and get better on your own. If you get sick to the point where your life is in danger, then and ONLY then do you go to the hospital.
What I see that's really annoying is all the people here in Vancouver hanging out in groups in the parks, playing soccer, walking around...etc. Just last week I started noticing 'rush hour traffic' was sorta becoming a thing again. So people are starting to get fed up and thinking the rules don't apply to them now that we're a few weeks into this...typical Vancouverites.
I don't believe for a second anything coming out of China. How the hell were they able to contain it to one area?? Meanwhile you see entire countries around the planet getting affected. Either they're just censoring everything (most likely) or they've forced people to stay inside, or forced them to quarantine or just plain killed a bunch of people (also likely).
The dark side of the force in me says open up everything as per normal - business as usual. If you get sick. Stay home and get better on your own. If you get sick to the point where your life is in danger, then and ONLY then do you go to the hospital.
In some places, they literally patrolled the streets with guns and made people stay inside. Plus they went through bird flu and SARS, so they kind of respect this stuff way more than we do. You can find these answers if you look around. And if you don't believe china, you can believe our satellites
Satellite photos show the deserted streets of Wuhan as the city enters its 8th day of quarantine
The city of Wuhan is on lockdown as China tries to stop the coronavirus from spreading. This is what it looks like from above, and on the ground.
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I'm no fitness dwid but as a mountainbiker and someone who kind of needs lungs in general I don't exactly want to catch this. Lots of 'recovered' cases out there are left with scarring and dead cardiac muscle.
Read up on how south korea handled this. No lockdowns but aggressive testing, tracking and quarantines. Never shut down a thing.
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"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says Canadians will have to be patient about the prospect of easing border controls, despite interest from U.S. President Donald Trump.
“We know that there Is a significant amount of time still before we can talk about loosening any such restrictions,” Trudeau said Thursday (April 16) during his daily media briefing outside his home in Ottawa."
“We know that there Is a significant amount of time still before we can talk about loosening any such restrictions,” Trudeau said Thursday (April 16) during his daily media briefing outside his home in Ottawa."
Full disclosure: I have an acquaintance working there. You basically couldn't come into the streets without a ton of soldiers/police controlling your transit papers, measuring your temperature and forcing everyone to be at least 1.5m apart. If some law enforcement member pointed a thermometer gun to your forehead and it read over 37.5 Celsius, you were escorted to a hotel converted into an isolation unit. If you protested, you were clubbed till you passed out, and then carried into a police station or a hotel, depending on your social score.
You were also forced to take your body temperature when entering/leaving your workplace, when entering/leaving a bike path, when entering/leaving a marketplace. You also had to wash your hands upon arriving to/from your work, and also to report your body temperature via a phone app three times a day (especially if you stayed home). If at any moment it read 37.5° C... Well, I've explained it pretty well above.
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If anyone cares, the IKON ski pass is now offering the ability to anyone that bought 20/21 season passes the ability to convert it to the 21/22 winter season.
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People that do research to protect their money sending a message about next winter..... That's saying something.
That said, I hope alterra and vail both die in a fucking hole and reach extinction.
Way more fun to sled ski at just too. Can vouch
The issues you raise are one of the sharp points of this 'economy' we're watching now fall apart. Honestly I have little sympathy for the opportunism that high leveraged businesses exhibit for returns, and all the parasitic salivating real estate bullshit that goes along with it. One year after intrawest (then vail) built out the village at mammoth, half the store fronts were sitting empty because we entered a drought period and they wanted way the hell too much money to sit there.
I'm with you that I feel for small businesses who's owners extended themselves personally for a chance at the dream.....but only to a point. They bought into a shitfuck system that crumbles at the nearest 60 degree F week. Vail just killed a guy on a chair because they hire minimum wage lifties who don't have the training or authority to stop a lift and run it backwards to save someone's life.
Fuck the whole thing. I hope it all perishes. Vail didn't build these places, it bought them. And it sure as hell didn't add to the quality of the experience of visiting by butting its fat ass in the door. It demonstrably made it worse, at the mountain, at the towns, and on the highways surrounding them. Even the nearby restaurants when you need a reservation to get in the door at mcdonalds.
I'd love to help those same business owners come up with something local. That doesn't rely on looking shiny in cinderella's crayon castle sitting at the bottom of a chair lift just to make someone in mississippi go 'ooh pretty'.
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sounds like...ummm...you need to get away from ski areas and just find a nice lil' mountain town in the middle of nowhere.
workin on it
In the meantime, you gonna hand me that piece of the head block or what? We got guillotines to get out the door. This industry is essential.
EWS Whistler canceled. 
EWS Whistler canceled.
EWS Whistler & 3 Other Events Cancelled as Enduro World Series Restructures 2020 Calendar - Pinkbike
The world's best enduro racers will not be racing in Whistler this year for the first time since the series started.
Burke VT EWS also cancelled
Vail Resorts Provides Update on Season Pass Plans for the 2020/2021 North American Ski Season
/PRNewswire/ -- Vail Resorts, Inc. (NYSE: MTN) today announced updates to its season pass program for the 2020/2021 North American ski season. Rob Katz, Chief...
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“Our advanced commitment products continue to be our primary focus by delivering value to our guests, resulting in increased guest return rates and guest satisfaction to drive the long-term stability and growth of our business.”
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Dude.....get your head out of the sand. It wasn't a secret that China went nuclear with their lockdown measures. Military, putting fencing around cities, full on monitoring of every citizen and forced quarantine.
We're reaping what we sow here which is Freedumbzzzz and as far as I'm concerned this isn't a left or right thing. Plenty of folks going about each day as if this is just a extended 'stay-cation' and so long as there aren't 5 walls surrounding you, you're apparently immune from anything so let's keep on going about playing outside with everyone else and this will blow over...
....meanwhile good ol liberal Massachusetts is a shitshow. Neighbor that's a paramedic is saying this is ripping through the retirement/assisted living homes and has no idea how well any of this is being recorded. Meanwhile our essential business list is a joke and we're doing dick all in terms of policing anything because god forbid the governor infringes on our Freedumbzzzz....
so any more rumors on whistler?
At this point it seems like they are almost definitely delaying if not cancelling the season, and Crankworx looking incredibly unlikely as well. I would be very surprised if EWS was cancelled purely on the part of the race organizers and not in negotiation with the mountain as well. Right now is when they'd be confirming their massive workforce of Aussies and peeps from South America, who currently aren't allowed into the country...
the issue of retirement/assisted living homes is absolutely not limited to massachusetts, or even the US.
I should really look to see if I can cancel my condo reservation for July and get some money back, then the shitshow of trying to deal with the flights...
I just came to laff at the notion that any of these ski resort companies are on any sort of sound financial footing. 
money printer goes brrrI just came to laff at the notion that any of these ski resort companies are on any sort of sound financial footing.
I am still holding out hope for some september riding at the bike park.
do you really thing there's any mountain out there that would staff up for 1-2 months of summer ops?
NFW.
Not for 1-2 of course not, but if they feel they can do it earlier maybe in a limited capacity. Many US companies are figuring out how resume operations in a more limited capacity beginning next month. Everyone is trying to scavenge whatever lost revenue is possible.
The race organizer is WB, the EWS and Crankworx are events organized by the mountain and not some outside group. Small clarification.
Whistler as a resort town and the Vail the mountain owners NEED people flowing through there to keep it from going completely bankrupt. I don't doubt they are floating every idea they can for a limited operation this summer.
Ah didn't realize that, I assumed it was an agreement with EWS parent org but didn't realize that Whistler actually did the whole organization aspect.
it's not a matter of *IF* they can do it. it's a matter of if they can do it for long to enough to be operating at enough of a profit.
Of course, I am sure they are having those convo's right now...I am typing this while on a conf call doing almost the exact same thing.
I have a lot of high hopes for vail and alterra in the coming year
With people out of work, anecdotally, I would say trails are no less busy, and in certain respects are more busy. I'm not riding more as I'm still working and busy, but a lot of people are especially with the end of the ski season in March.
Mag's is now just operating out of a food truck by the Walmart and really isn't as good as Sunny Chiba's which replaced mag's in the same building...both are still open, Sunny's doing take out.
Once Canada lets us 'muricans back in I will have to see what this Sunny's place is all about.
I just checked, we can get 150ft of vert down the third of a mile of dirt and grass. That's not far off a run at Mountain Creekwant to shuttle big bikes on your street this weekend?
same head cooks/mangers, new ownership, better overall taste and quality imo
Is it crazy to think that Keystone, Winter Park, and Vail will still open? They usually open in mid-late June so they don't need to start that procedure for another month+. My DH bike order evaporated and I was told there's only a slim chance they'll find another one but I was holding out hope.