[MmmBones]

I too have the Lunar wrench set and they are very precise, slim and lightweight so they pack nicely and don't mark the caps. They get packed in my Park blue box that I throw in the van when I go riding. I also have some ground down sockets I keep on the bongshed bench and I use a combo of both when I'm working there. The Lunar set doesn't include a wrench for Dorado top caps but I have a nice crescent wrench that opens just wide enough to work. I like Abbey tools quite a bit because he goes above what everyone else is doing and the results are stunning. If I was wrenching on suspension everyday or ran a shop that did, I would use his sockets. If I was a dentist I would already own them and they would be kept in a custom made local artisan handcrafted renewable resource toxic-free 3D printed titanium hinged stained wood box with a vegan fur lining and they would be flown down from the climate controlled confines of my workshop loft in Malibu to my private beachside organic cocktail bar/bench by drone flown by an app that sounds like Scarlett Johansson and tells dirty jokes to my team of mechanics that are coincidentally all of the Marzocchi Bomber girls.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

Which is better, rounding the $200 dentist socket, or a top cap?

If you use appropriate torque, you won't round either.

 

[kidwoo]

If you use appropriate torque, you won't round either.

Heh.....at least with fox topcaps it has nothing to do with torque and everything to do with downward pressure while you spin.

 

[toodles]

Would it really hurt fork manufacturers to put another couple of mm height on the flats for the top caps? I know, I know extra weight and all that - but they can be ridiculously tight on some forks and you're not given much tolerance for an imperfectly placed socket that you're also try to get a good turn on.

 

[jonKranked]

Heh.....at least with fox topcaps it has nothing to do with torque and everything to do with downward pressure while you spin.

So.... A downward spiral?

 

[4130biker]

If you use appropriate torque, you won't round either.

Torque? What kind of torque do you reckon my setup generates?

 

[tacubaya]

Torque? What kind of torque do you reckon my setup generates?
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Not enough to torque the sealhead of a Reverb for sure.

You need to attach a socket to the rear axle of this:

 

[HAB]

Torque? What kind of torque do you reckon my setup generates?
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Maybe a couple ft-lbs, tops. Not much.

 

[4130biker]

Maybe a couple ft-lbs, tops. Not much.

You don't say!

 

[HAB]

You don't say!
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Make an AMG V8 angle grinder and then we can talk.

 

[Jm_]

Torque? What kind of torque do you reckon my setup generates?

Don't steal bikes bro.

 

[buckoW]

I have a bunch of nice top cap wrenches but usually end up using the Knipex pliers wrench
http://www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&page=group_detail&groupID=1500

 

[Flo33]

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I have a bunch of nice top cap wrenches but usually end up using the Knipex pliers wrench
http://www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&page=group_detail&groupID=1500

Those are worth every cent.

 

[slimshady]

Make an AMG V8 angle grinder and then we can talk.

So... A dentist's angle grinder?

 

[Jm_]

Would use with:

 

[Westy]

Would use with:

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Was that from the days when every other thread on the internet was about how to tune your Marzocchi Z1?

 

[Jm_]

Was that from the days when every other thread on the internet was about how to tune your Marzocchi Z1?

No, it was from when we thought we died and went to heaven when they put that same crude shit in the new 66 chassis and we were riding around with 7lb single crown forks like it was the best thing since tioga's tension disc.

Several years after the Z1. Think about how good some of that stuff could have been if it had ACTUAL damping in it?

 

[Westy]

No, it was from when we thought we died and went to heaven when they put that same crude shit in the new 66 chassis and we were riding around with 7lb single crown forks like it was the best thing since tioga's tension disc.

Several years after the Z1. Think about how good some of that stuff could have been if it had ACTUAL damping in it?

I only ever had one Marzocchi fork. Damn thing topped out like a jack hammer. POS. My old White Brothers fork with the Englund Air Damper worked better.

Air damping worked better. Let that settle in.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

My beat to shit Z1 worked fine for years. What did I know?

 

[junkyard]

Im sticking by it. Only flap disks on grinders. Have you guys ever used one? Makes anything your grinding buttery smooth. Flap wheels on bench grinders are a magical thing too. No more burning your fingers! and they work great on aluminum! Give em a try, you wont go back! Oh and buy a benchtop disk sander, band saw, plasma cutter, torch, skillsaw with metal blade, and a air cut off wheel/die grinder and stop being a hack with a grinder.

 

[OGRipper]

Would it really hurt fork manufacturers to put another couple of mm height on the flats for the top caps? I know, I know extra weight and all that - but they can be ridiculously tight on some forks and you're not given much tolerance for an imperfectly placed socket that you're also try to get a good turn on.

They need to be low profile for downtube clearance, especially when you have damper dials on top.

I have an sweet adjustable wrench that works just fine, even for Fox. Top caps don't need to be very tight. Haven't rounded off an edge yet. But hey, even if I do, I'll have 5 more to go! I'd probably get some nicer job-specific sockets if I was still working as a wrench but those days are long gone.

 

[Sandwich]

They need to be low profile for downtube clearance, especially when you have damper dials on top.

I have an sweet adjustable wrench that works just fine, even for Fox. Top caps don't need to be very tight. Haven't rounded off an edge yet. But hey, even if I do, I'll have 5 more to go! I'd probably get some nicer job-specific sockets if I was still working as a wrench but those days are long gone.

that's all good until you get the one fork cap that was loctited down by the hulk himself. Particularly a problem if you buy used parts. thankfully the fox dial cap covered up the knackered corners of that damper cap.

 

[StiHacka]

 

[jackalope]

Torque, schmorque

Besides, the pointy parts of those fork caps can really leave a mark when they hit your knees.

 

[Westy]

Chicks dig angle grinders.

 

[junkyard]

You know what else chicks dig? Scars!!! two birds one stone.

 

[StiHacka]

Chicks dig angle grinders.

Must be the famous polishing of a steel bean.

 

[canadmos]

Besides, the pointy parts of those fork caps can really leave a mark when they hit your knees.

Yes! I have bashed my knees off them a few times. Though when that happens I've obviously screwed up somewhere and am being ejected out the front of the bike, usually hitting the family jewels on the stem on the way out. So the knees are usually second fiddle in terms of pain.

 

[Westy]

Yes! I have bashed my knees off them a few times. Though when that happens I've obviously screwed up somewhere and am being ejected out the front of the bike, usually hitting the family jewels on the stem on the way out. So the knees are usually second fiddle in terms of pain.

You can angle grind all of that nice and smooth.

 

[junkyard]

But you gotta use a flap disk on those aluminum caps!!!! Grinding disks load up with aluminum, overheat then explode. Unless you buy the special aluminum ones.

 

[Westy]

But you gotta use a flap disk on those aluminum caps!!!! Grinding disks load up with aluminum, overheat then explode. Unless you buy the special aluminum ones.

You really have to have a complete arsenal of angle grinder wheels. My favorites is the flap wheel and wire wheel. Thin cutting disks are kind of scary, I wear my self dimming welding mask when I use one.

 

[StiHacka]

My google fu is weak - I could not find any luxury angle grinders for dentists. I guess I'll have to go with the usual dewalt choice then. OTOH, I found some blingy wheels coated with brilliants diamonds, great success!

 

[toodles]

You want torque? Get one of these - Alfa Laval tightening device. I got to see one being used during some PHE rebuilds not long ago. 3,300 Nm (or 2430lbft). Perfect for cinching up top caps. Just need an adaptor to use it for the screws on ODI lock-ons and it will be perfect.

 

[junkyard]

Around the year 2000 i had a cutting disk blow up on me. Didnt hit me and i couldnt find one piece of it! Havent used one since. I do have 3 or four grinders, one with a flap disk and one with a wire wheel, the other has a bad vibration and i dont use it much but has a sanding disk, my cordless has a flap disk, and my 9 inch has a tire grinder on it.

 

[Flo33]

My google fu is weak - I could not find any luxury angle grinders for dentists. I guess I'll have to go with the usual dewalt choice then. OTOH, I found some blingy wheels coated with brilliants diamonds, great success!

Will ~400 Old World Dollars suffice the dentists need? Then here ya go

https://fein.com/de_at/m/schleifen-normalfrequenz/grosse-winkelschleifer/wsg-25-230-028143/

But beware, 9" disc and 2.5 kW incoming.

 

[jackalope]

 

[canadmos]

Around the year 2000 i had a cutting disk blow up on me. Didnt hit me and i couldnt find one piece of it! Havent used one since. I do have 3 or four grinders, one with a flap disk and one with a wire wheel, the other has a bad vibration and i dont use it much but has a sanding disk, my cordless has a flap disk, and my 9 inch has a tire grinder on it.

My dad had one explode when he was working at a body shop. He didn't realize that it also flung some steel dust or something into his eye, which started to rust on the eye ball sometime later.

And that's why I took wood shop in high school and not metal shop.

I am not a safety freak, but I find it both hilarious and scary when I see people using them with no protection. Same thing when I see people mowing their lawn barefoot, you just know that they're going to step in dog shit and ruin their day!

 

[canadmos]

You can angle grind all of that nice and smooth.

Why do that when you can already purchase one grinded smoothz?

 

[StiHacka]

Why do that when you can already purchase one grinded smoothz?

 

[aenema]

Seriously, it doesn't even have a dropper post