software info needed
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microsoft front page. i use that when i edit most stuff. for myspace and the such
A comination of this editor: http://www.editplus.com/ (it says you only get 30 days, but in reality you get it forever)
and this site will get you rolling pretty quickly: http://www.openwebdesign.org/browse.php
Here's my first site: http://www.mines.edu/students/b/bturman/
I was able to turn this open source page: http://www.openwebdesign.org/viewdesign.phtml?id=2748&referer=/userinfo.phtml?user=snop
into this: www.CSMCycling.com
and this site will get you rolling pretty quickly: http://www.openwebdesign.org/browse.php
Here's my first site: http://www.mines.edu/students/b/bturman/
I was able to turn this open source page: http://www.openwebdesign.org/viewdesign.phtml?id=2748&referer=/userinfo.phtml?user=snop
into this: www.CSMCycling.com
I started with Microsoft notepad. Now, i'm using Mozilla's Composer (wysiwyg and manual html).
The best place (i know) for learning html and everything else is w3schools.com. It's all free which is amazing. Check out the tutorials.
That looks really good. I'm going to start using that soon.
Very easy to work with. A little screwy on some stuff, but it's improving all the time.
The site manager function is teh roxorz.
Please don't use frontpage. I know it's easy and all but more a more people are using Firfox and lots of Frontpage sites don't work for poo in firefox.
I'm using Mozilla Composer right now. I'm trying to layer 2 tables. Is that even possible with html only?
html question:
If I put keywords in a section of the html, will that be found with a search engine and the page will be a search result?
If I put keywords in a section of the html, will that be found with a search engine and the page will be a search result?
Dude, go to a computer site. Branch out. There's more to life than RM. And can a mod please move this to the Lounge?? Seriously.
Seriously, man, go figure it out yourself. We can't hold your hand through an entire learning process of creating webpages.
There are at least sixteen billion sites that assist in webpage creation. Start with Google.
I'd like to suggest a good book reference too. I have taught myself a lot with "HTML for the World Wide Web" by Liz Castro, Peachtree Press.
A good reference book that is easy to use in invaluable for certain things.
A good reference book that is easy to use in invaluable for certain things.
Most applications have this crazy thing called a "help" file. You can access it from inside the application once you start it.
Craziness I tell ya.
What movie is that from? It must be funny with those two.
Depends on your end goal.
Simple personal page that you'll make an maybe update once in a while with no aspirations to make more? FrontPage. It's stupid simple to use, newer versions are better than the older versions and people should be using Opera instead of Firefox anyway. One of the nice things about Front Page (and other WYSIWYG editors) is that you can look at the code that was created by the program and get an idea of what everything means.
Looking to make a fancy page, maybe do pages for other people? Learn HTML. It's not a quick process, but if you are planning on doing webpages on a regular basis (pro or not) then you should understand how they work and how they are put together.
Ultimately hand coding will give you the best results, and please the geeks. However it is a pain to learn and takes considerably longer than using Front Page, or another similar program. While it is possible to make a site such as ridemonkey in Front Page, it won't come out very well. Simple pages come out fine, however.
Here's a page I did in Front Page... http://www.sablecatleather.com VERY simple, and it works. (I could care less about how it looks in Firefox)
Not entirely true, I can hand code in css faster than i can build something that does what I want in dreamweaver. front page isn't even an option, as it's code is garbage and only renders properly in IE6. Ie 7 will break all of this of course as MS saw fit to change how it renders entirely...but still not do it to standards.
Are you a beginner?
NO. You do this for a living. That's why you are faster at it. You have experience, knowledge and practice.
For a beginner, Front Page will be faster because you can jump right in and don't have to learn about HTML. Wanna change a font? Just use the drop down. Insert a link? Click on the link icon and type in the destination URL. Like I said... STUPID SIMPLE.
The pages I do look good in ALL versions of IE, and OPERA. The coe is "garbage" to a pro like you, not to the average person.
And I also said, that if he is looking to do more than a simple personal page then he should learn HTML.
This is why I posted the link to Nvu.
- Open source.
- Free.
- Simple.
- Easier to use than Frontpage (I've used both).
- Free.
- Relatively clean code.
- Free.
Oh, and I forgot: IT'S FREE.
Naw, it's faster to hand code it because front page doesn't do things you want it to do. Especially when you have it render in different browsers. I can guarantee you that opera is not rendering the same as IE is, simply due to the box model differences between these 2 browers. It will blow up under certain conditions in opera, guaranteed.
If you want simple AND effective, use dreamweaver. Then you can read along with the code via split screen as well and learn as you go.
For what it's worth, I still use dreamweaver to build forms and tables, just because it's infinetly easier than coding them on my own.
Also, the code is garbage because it isn't standards based, amd breaks under most conditions. Not because i can write cleaner code. It's all about standards, and front page ignores them entirely.
If you want simple AND effective, use dreamweaver. Then you can read along with the code via split screen as well and learn as you go.
For what it's worth, I still use dreamweaver to build forms and tables, just because it's infinetly easier than coding them on my own.
Also, the code is garbage because it isn't standards based, amd breaks under most conditions. Not because i can write cleaner code. It's all about standards, and front page ignores them entirely.
You really should. In fact you should care how it looks in all browsers, and on all platforms. (especially of your selling something)
Opera is one of the least used browsers on the planet, it's a joke if you code only for that. It also doesn't read standards based code as well as firefox or safari.
Coding for Opera means you're coding for the 1.6% elite.
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
AKA: the guys (loosely used term) who may actually want to buy handcrafted leather slippers? :biggrin:Coding for Opera means you're coding for the 1.6% elite.
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
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