[rockwool]

Selected the ones I found important to know of in the Lebanese/Israeli/Palestinian conflicts.

I picked those out of consideration for:
* The first obvioius thing is of course the civilians,
* What infrastructure may and may not be damaged,
* When do you have the right to start a war,

This is what www.genevaconventions.org says:


"area bombardments

Area bombardments occur when a number of clearly separated military objectives are treated as a single military objective, and where there is a similar concentration of civilians or civilian objects. ( Protocol I, Art. 51 , Sec. 5a)

Area bombardments and other indiscriminate attacks are forbidden. ( Protocol I, Art. 57, Sec. 2b)

An indiscriminate attack affecting the civilian population or civilian objects and resulting in excessive loss of life, injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects is a grave breach of the Geneva Conventions. ( Protocol I, Art. 85, Sec. 3)"

"carpet bombing

Area bombardments and other indiscriminate attacks are forbidden. If it becomes apparent that an objective is not a military one, or if an attack is expected to cause incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects then the attack must be canceled or suspended. (Protocol I, Art. 57, Sec. 2b)

An indiscriminate attack affecting the civilian population or civilian objects and resulting in excessive loss of life, injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects is a grave breach of the Geneva Conventions. (Protocol I, Art. 85, Sec. 3)"

"civilian

A civilian is any person who does not belong to any of the following categories: members of the armed forces, militias or volunteer corps, organized resistance movements, and residents of an occupied territory who spontaneously take up arms. If there is any doubt whether a person is civilian, then he or she is to be considered a civilian. (Protocol I, Art. 50, Sec. 1)"

"civilian population

The civilian population comprises all persons who are civilians. (Protocol I, Art. 50, Sec. 2)

The civilian population is protected under the Geneva Conventions and these protections are not affected by the presence of combatants in the population. (Protocol I, Art. 50, Sec. 3)

These protections include the right to be free from attacks, reprisals, acts meant to instill terror, and indiscriminate attacks. Civilian populations must not be used as civilian shields. (Protocol I, Art. 51)"

"civilian property

Combatants must distinguish between civilian and military property and attack only military property. (Protocol I, Art. 48)"

"civilian shields

Civilians must not be used to protect military installations or operations against attacks. (Protocol I, Art. 51, Sec. 7)"

"civilians, imprisonment of

Civilians who commit an offense against an occupying power which does not include an attempt against the lives of members of the occupying force or administration, pose a grave collective danger, or seriously damage property or installations of the occupying power may only be punished by internment or imprisonment. (Convention IV, Art. 68)

If civilians in an occupied territory are charged with an offense that carries a punishment of to two or more years of imprisonment, their protecting power must be notified immediately. If the notification is not received at least three weeks before the first hearing, the trial shall not proceed. (Convention IV, Art. 71)"
-Maybe we got the answer to why there are thousands of untrialed Lebanese and Palestinians in Isreali prisons.

"collateral damage

Weapons, projectiles and methods of warfare that cause superfluous injury or unnecessary suffering are prohibited. (Protocol I, Art. 35, Sec. 2)"

"collective penalties

Civilians must not be punished for offenses that they personally did not commit. Collective penalties, intimidation and penalties against civilian populations are prohibited. (Convention IV, Art. 33)"

"crimes against humanity

War crimes are againt the customary laws of war which are applicable in any conflict, regardless of whether the country in question is a signatory to the Geneva Convention. They include the rights listed in the common article 3 of the Geneva Conventions (Convention I, Article 3) and the basics of human rights law – freedom from torture, mutilation and rape, slavery, and willful killing. Customary law also forbids genocide, crimes against humanity, as well as war crimes."

"customary law

Laws of war which are applicable in any conflict, regardless of whether the country in question is a signatory to the Geneva Convention. They include the rights listed in the common article 3 of the Geneva Conventions (Convention I, Article 3) and the basics of human rights law – freedom from torture, mutilation and rape, slavery, and willful killing. Customary law also forbids genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes."

"death squads

Murder of civilians is prohibited, as is sentencing and executions without benefit of a regularly constituted court affording all guarantees recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples. (Convention I, Art. 3, Sec. 1)"

"declaration of war

A declaration of war is not required in order for the Geneva Conventions to apply."

"drinking water

Attacks against civilian drinking water installation and irrigation works are prohibited. (Protocol I, Art. 54, Sec. 2)"

"education

While respecting the individual preferences of each prisoner, detaining powers must encourage educational pursuits and provide adequate facilities. (Convention III, Art. 38)

Prisoners must be allowed to receive educational materials, including books, scientific equipment, exams, musical instruments, and other materials that allow them to study. (Convention III, Art. 72)

The above also applies to internees. (Convention IV, Art. 94 and Art. 108)

Warring parties must see to the education of orphans or other children under 15 who have been separated from their parents. The education must be entrusted, when possible, to people of a similar cultural tradition. (Convention IV, Art. 24)

An occupying power must support existing school systems and make new arrangements, if necessary, for the education of orphans and children who have been separated from their parents . (Convention IV, Art. 50)"

"enforcement of Geneva Conventions

Each Geneva Convention and Protocol spells out enforcement procedures.

To start with, each party to the Conventions must seek out violators and bring them to trial. (Convention I, Art. 49)

In addition, parties may request an independent inquiry and umpire to resolve disputes between parties. (Convention I, Art. 52)

This inquiry may take the form of an international fact-finding commission, as outlined in Protocol I, Art. 90."

"enlistment

Occupying powers must not use pressure, coercion or propaganda to recruit civilians into the armed forces. (Convention IV, Art. 51)"

"environmental warfare

Methods or means of warfare that are intended or may be expected to case widespread, long-term and severe damage to the environment are prohibited. (Protocol I, Art. 35, Sec. 3)"

"ethnic cleansing

Mass forcible transfers of civilians in an occupied territory are prohibited, though the occupying power may evacuate people for safety reasons. Those evacuated must be transferred back to their homes as soon as hostilities have ceased. (Convention IV, Art. 49).

See deportation, transfer of civilians."

"evacuation of civilians

See transfer of civilians, danger zones."

"fair trial

The passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions are forbidden unless all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized people have been met and a regularly constituted court has pronounced a judgment. (Convention I, Art. 3, Sec 1d)

Depriving combatants, prisoners of war, refugees, or medical or religious personnel of a fair trail is a grave breach of the Geneva Convention. (Protocol I, Art. 85, Sec. 4e)"

"false pretenses

See perfidy."


To be continued.

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

if those were true (although you can tell the customary accepted definition among nations isnt exactly as that) i´d probably be saluting the che, and paying my dues to fidel, and likely summarily executed for making comments about the regime on the internet....

since no option would have been left to fight guerillas under the umbrella of aparent civilians. sometimes well meaning ideas can end up promoting the very same scenarios they were supposed to fight against.

what would jesus do? what would the world do if another hitler sprouted?
obbey and die? say **** it and live?

 

[rockwool]

"genocide

Genocide is a violation of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.

It is a crime under international law both in peace and in times of war and is defined as acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, including killing or seriously injuring members of the group, imposing measures indented to prevent births or forcibly transferring children.
See also indiscriminate attacks, civilian immunity, ethnic cleansing and discrimination."

"grave breaches

Grave breaches of the Conventions and Protocols are war crimes.

Attacking a person who is hors de combat. (Protocol I, Art. 85, Sec. 3)

Practices of apartheid and other inhuman and degrading practices involving outrages upon personal dignity, based on racial discrimination. (Protocol I, Art. 85, Sec. 4)

Biological experiments on the wounded and sick. (Convention I, Art. 12; Convention I, Art. 50)

Biological experiments against shipwrecked combatants. (Convention II, Art. 12; Convention II, Art. 51)

Biological experiments against prisoners of war. (Convention III, Art. 130)

Biological experiments against civilians. (Convention IV, Art. 147)

Compelling a prisoner of to serve in the military forces of the hostile power. (Convention III, Art. 130)

Any unlawful act which causes death or seriously endangers the health of a prisoner of war. (Convention III, Art. 13)

Unlawful transfer, deportation or confinement of civilians, willful killing, hostage taking and torture . (Protocol IV, Art. 147)

Attacking cultural objects when they’re not located near a military target or used for the war effort. (Protocol I, Art. 85, Sec. 4D)

Depriving civilians who are under the control of an enemy power of the right to a fair trial (Convention IV, Art. 147)

Depriving combatants, prisoners of war, refugees, or medical or religious personnel of a fair trial. (Protocol I, Art. 85, Sec. 4e)"

"guerrillas

Guerrillas who follow the rules spelled out in the Geneva Conventions are considered to have combatant status and have some of the same rights as regular members of the armed forces.

In international conflicts, guerrillas must distinguish themselves from the civilian population if they are preparing or engaged in an attack. At a minimum, guerrillas must carry their arms openly. (Protocol I, Art. 44, Sec. 3)

Under the earlier Geneva Conventions, which are more widely recognized, a guerrilla army must have a well-defined chain of command, be clearly distinguishable from the civilian population, carry arms openly and observe the laws of war. (Convention III, Art. 4, Sec. 2)

In the case of an internal conflict, combatants must show humane treatment to civilians and enemies who have been wounded or who have surrendered. Murder, hostage-taking and extrajudicial executions are all forbidden. (Convention I, Art. 3)"

"hostage taking

The taking of hostages is forbidden, both in internal conflicts (Convention I, Art. 3, Sec. 1B and Protocol II, Art. 4, Sec. 2c) and international conflicts. (Convention IV, Art. 34 and Protocol I, Art. 75, Sec. 2c)

In international conflicts, the taking of hostages is considered a grave breach of the Geneva Conventions. (Convention IV, Art. 147)

Also see the 1979 International Convention Against the Taking of Hostages."

"human shields

Prisoners of war may not be used as human shields, to protect points or areas from attack. (Convention III, Art. 23)

In international conflicts, civilians may not be used to protect areas from military operations. (Convention IV, Art. 28 and Protocol I, Art. 51, Sec. 7)

Medical units may not be used to protect military objectives from attack. (Protocol I, Art. 12, Sec. 4)

Medical aircraft may not be used to protect military objectives against attack. (Protocol I, Art. 28)

See hostage taking."

"humanitarian aid

Relief consignments, equipment and personnel must be able to pass rapidly and freely if the assistance is meant for the civilian population of the opposing side. This includes medicines, religious items, food and clothing. (Convention IV, Art. 23; Protocol I, Art. 70, Sec. 2)

An exception may be made if there is fear that the shipments would be diverted to help the military. (Convention IV, Art. 23)

Warring parties must allow the free passage of medicine, food and clothing intended for children under 15. (Convention IV, Art. 23)"

"humanitarian intervention

The Geneva Conventions cannot be used to justify the intervention, direct or indirect, in the internal affairs of a country. (Protocol II, Art. 3)"

"incitement to genocide

Genocide is forbidden by the 1948 Genocide Convention, which covers acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group as such, as well as direct and public incitement to commit genocide.

The Geneva Convention, as well, prohibits murder and adverse distinction based on race, color, religion or faith, birth or wealth, or similar criteria. (Convention I, Art. 3)"

"indecent assault

Parties to a conflict must respect children, provide them with any care or aid they require, and protect them from any form of indecent assault (Protocol I, Art. 77, Sec. 1).

Female civilians in an occupied territory, internees and refugees must be protected against any attack on their honor, including rape, enforced prostitution, or any form of indecent assault. (Convention IV, Art. 27)

Outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment, enforced prostitution and any form of indecent assault is prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever, whether committed by civilians or military personnel. (Protocol I, Art. 75)

See also rape."

"indiscriminate attacks

Indiscriminate attacks are those which are not directed at a specific military objective or those which use a method of attack that cannot be directed at or limited to a specific military objective. (Protocol I, Art. 51, Sec. 4)

This includes area bombardment, where a number of clearly separated military objectives are treated as a single military objective, and where there is a similar concentration of civilians or civilian objects. (Protocol I, Art. 51, Sec. 5a)

This also includes attacks where the expected incidental loss of civilian life or damage to civilian objects is excessive to the military advantage anticipated. (Protocol I, Art. 51, Sec. 5b)

Indiscriminate attacks are prohibited. (Protocol I, Art. 51, Sec. 4)

Combatants must distinguish between civilian and military objects and attack only military targets. (Protocol I, Art. 48)

If it becomes apparent that an objective in an attack is not a military one, or if that attack could cause incidental loss of civilian life or damage to civilian objects, then the attack must be called off. (Protocol I, Art. 57)"

"Information Bureau

At the beginning of a conflict or occupation, each of the parties involved must create an Information Bureau in order to track personal information about prisoners of war. (Convention III, Art. 122)

Records of personal information of wounded, sick or dead combatants who fall into enemy hands must be forwarded to this Information Bureau as soon as possible. (Convention I, Art. 16)

Records of graves or cremations must also be forwarded to the Information Bureau as soon as circumstances permit, or, at the latest, at the end of hostilities. (Convention I, Art. 17)

The above also applies in case of shipwrecks. (Convention II, Art. 19)

Any articles of value or foreign currency which have not been restored to repatriated prisoners of war must be forwarded to the Information Bureau. (Convention III, Art. 119)"

"inhumane treatment

See humane treatment of prisoners of war, humane treatment of internees, civilian immunity."

"internal displacement

Individual or mass forcible transfers of civilians in occupied areas are forbidden, regardless of motive. However, civilians may be temporarily evacuated for safety reasons and returned back to their homes as soon as hostilities in the area have ceased. (Convention IV, Art. 49)

See also ethnic cleansing."

"internment

If an occupying power considers it necessary for imperative reasons of security, it may restrict civilians to assigned residents or to internment. Due process must be followed and internees must have the right of appeal. In addition, cases must be reviewed regularly, every six months if possible. (Convention IV, Art. 78)

If the internee is no longer able to work, then the occupying power must provide employment opportunities comparable to those of other civilians or otherwise ensure the internee’s support. (Convention IV, Art. 39)

In addition, internees must be allowed to receive allowances from their home countries, from the protecting power, or from relief societies. (Convention IV, Art. 39)

See also humane treatment of internees; internees, punishment of."

"interrogation of civilians

Civilians in an occupied territory must not be subject to physical or moral coercion for the purposes of obtaining information from them or from third parties. (Convention IV, Art. 31)"

"intimidation

Civilians in an occupied territory must not be subject to collective penalties or any other measures of intimidation or terrorism. (Convention IV, Art. 33)"

"irregulars

See guerrillas."

"kidnapping

See civilian immunity, hostage taking, fair trial."

"legitimate military targets

Legitimate military targets are those which make an effective contribution to military action and whose destruction, capture or neutralization offers a definite military advantage. (Protocol I, Art. 52. Sec. 2)

If there is any doubt as to whether a place of worship, house, school or other civilian object is used for military purposes, then it will be presumed not to be a legitimate military target. (Protocol I, Art. 52, Sec. 3)

See also indiscriminate attacks."


To be continued.

 

[rockwool]

"medical supplies

Prisoners of war (Convention III, Art. 72) and internees (Convention IV, Art. 108) must have the right to receive parcels containing medical supplies.

In an occupied territory, the occupying power has the responsibility of assuring adequate medical supplies for the population. (Convention IV, Art. 55)

If there is a lack of medical supplies, the occupying power must agree to and support relief efforts by states or humanitarian organizations. (Convention IV, Art. 59)

In an internal conflict, if the civilian population is suffering from a lack of medical supplies, humanitarian relief actions must be undertaken, subject to the agreement of the country concerned. (Protocol II, Art. 18, Sec. 2)"

"medical transport

Transports of wounded and sick or of medical equipment must be respected and protected in the same way as mobile medical units. (Convention I, Art. 35)

See also medical aircraft and hospital ships."

"medical units

Fixed establishments and mobile medical units must be protected and respected by all sides in a conflict. (Convention I, Art. 19)

Medical units may have personnel who carry arms for self-defense or for the maintenance of order; may be protected by a picket, by sentries, or by an escort; may temporarily store small arms and ammunition taken from patients; may be associated with a veterinary unit; and may treat civilians. (Convention I, Art. 22)

Medical units may not be used to commit acts harmful to the enemy. If they do, they lose their protections under the Geneva Conventions after due warning has been given and a reasonable time limit has passed. (Convention I, Art. 21)"

"military objectives

See legitimate military targets."

"militias

See guerrillas."

"mothers of young children

Pregnant women and nursing mothers who are aliens in a warring country must receive the same preferential treatment as nationals. (Convention IV, Art. 38, Sec. 5)

An occupying power must not hinder any pre-existing measures in regard to food, medical care and special protection of benefit to women of children under 7. (Convention IV, Art. 50)

In internment camps, pregnant and nursing women must receive additional food, in proportion to their physiological needs. (Convention IV, Art. 89)

The detaining power must work as quickly as possible to repatriate or release to their homes or to neutral countries pregnant women or mothers with infants or young children. (Convention IV, Art. 132 and Protocol I, Art. 76, Sec. 2)

When relief supplies are distributed to civilian populations, preference must be given to children, pregnant and nursing women. (Protocol I, Art. 69)

In internal conflicts, the death penalty must not be carried out against pregnant women or mothers with young children. (Protocol II, Art. 6, Sec. 4)"

"murder

Murder is forbidden by the Geneva Conventions, both in cases of internal conflicts (Convention I, Art. 3, Sec. 1A), wounded combatants (Convention I, Art. 12), civilians in occupied territories (Convention IV, Art. 32), civilians in international conflicts (Protocol I, Art. 75, Sec. 2Ai) and civilians in internal conflicts (Protocol II, Art. 4, Sec. 2A)."

"mutilation

Mutilation is forbidden by the Geneva Conventions, both in cases of internal conflicts (Convention I, Art. 3, Sec. 1A), wounded combatants (Convention I, Art. 12), civilians in occupied territories (Convention IV, Art. 32), civilians in international conflicts (Protocol I, Art. 75, Sec. 2Ai) and civilians in internal conflicts (Protocol II, Art. 4, Sec. 2A)."

"nationality, discrimination by

See discrimination."

"non-defended localities

A non-defended locality is an area declared as such by a party to the conflict from which all combatants, mobile weapons and mobile military equipment have been evacuated, in which fixed military installations are not being used for hostile purposes, in which the authorities and the population commit no hostile acts, and in which no activities in support of military operations are undertaken. (Protocol I, Art. 59, Sec. 2)

Attacks against non-defended localities are forbidden. (Protocol I, Art. 59, Sec. 2)"

"occupied territories

The fourth Geneva Convention of 1949 details the rights and obligations of an occupying power in an occupied territory.

See internment, civilian immunity."

"paramilitaries

See guerrillas."

"penitentiaries

See civilians, imprisonment of; prisoners of war, imprisonment of and internees, punishment of."

"penal laws in occupied territories

Penal laws may not be changed in an occupied territory except when there is a threat to state security or when they violate the Geneva Conventions. (Convention IV, Art. 64)"

"perfidy

It is prohibited to pretend to surrender, without an actual intention to do so. (Protocol I, Art. 37, Sec. 1)

Pretending to seek a cease-fire with the intent to betray the confidence in order to kill, injure or capture an adversary is perfidy and is prohibited. (Protocol I, Art. 37, Sec. 1a)"

"persecution

See discrimination, humane treatment of prisoners of war, humane treatment of internees, and civilian immunity."

"precautionary measures

Prior to an attack, a number of precautionary measures must be taken to ensure that that the civilian population, and civilian objects are spared. (Protocol I, Art. 57, Sec. 1)

These include verification that the objectives of the attack are legitimate military targets, and, if possible, advance warnings in case of attacks that may affect the civilian population. (Protocol I, Sec. 2)"

"prisoners of war, imprisonment

A prisoner of war awaiting trial must not be confined unless members of the detaining country’s own armed forces would also be confined in the same circumstances. (Convention III, Art. 103)

Any time spent in confinement waiting for trial will count towards time served. (Convention III, Art. 103)

The protecting powers must be immediately notified once a prisoner is sentenced. (Convention III, Art. 105)

All prisoners must have the right of appeal or petition and be informed of these rights and of any time limits on them. (Convention III, Art. 106)

Imprisonment in premises without daylight is forbidden. (Convention III, Art. 87)

See also fair trials."

"proportionality

See civilian immunity, legitimate military targets, indiscriminate attacks."

"protected persons

Each Geneva Convention defines a certain class of protected persons. The First Convention applies to wounded and sick, as well as religious and medical personnel.

The Second Convention extends protections to shipwrecked combatants.

The Third Convention protects prisoners of war.

The Four Convention protects civilians in occupied territories.

The First Protocol protects victims of international conflicts and the Second Protocol extends protections to victims of internal conflicts."

"quarter, giving no

The execution of defenseless combatants is a grave breach of the Geneva Conventions. (Protocol I, Art. 85, Sec. 3)

See hors de combat."

"racial discrimination

Practices of apartheid and other inhuman and degrading practices involving outrages upon personal dignity, based on racial discrimination are prohibited and are considered grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions. (Protocol I, Art. 85, Sec. 4)"

"refoulement

Civilians in an occupied territory must not be transferred to a country where they have reason to fear persecution based on their political or religious beliefs. (Convention IV, Art. 45)"

"refugees

Refugees and stateless persons are protected by the Fourth Geneva Convention to the same extent as civilians in occupied territories. (Protocol I, Art. 73)"

"relief shipments

Relief consignments, equipment and personnel must be able to pass rapidly and freely if the assistance is meant for the civilian population of the opposing side. This includes medicines, religious items, food and clothing. (Convention IV, Art. 23; Protocol I, Art. 70, Sec. 2)

An exception may be made if there is fear that the shipments would be diverted to help the military. (Convention IV, Art. 23)

Starvation of civilians as a method of warfare is prohibited. (Protocol I, Art. 54, Sec. 1)"


"relief organizations

Military authorities must allow relief societies, even in invaded or occupied areas, to collect and care for the wounded or sick of any nationality. However, this does not relieve the occupying power of its obligation to care for the wounded and sick. (Convention I, Art. 18)

Relief organizations must receive all necessary facilities for visiting prisoners of war and for distributing relief supplies. The special position of the International Committee of the Red Cross in this field must be recognized and respected at all times. (Convention III, Art. 125)

Relief organizations must be allowed to visit civilians in all areas of international conflict (Convention IV, Art. 30) including internees (Convention IV, Art. 142) and civilian populations of adverse parties (Protocol I, Art. 70, Sec. 2).

In internal conflicts, relief efforts are subject to the approval of the government of the country in question. (Protocol II, Art. 18, Sec. 2)

See also blockade."

"reprisals

Reprisals against civilians in occupied territories are forbidden. (Convention IV, Art. 33)"

"resettlement

See deportation, ethnic cleansing."

"resistance movements

See guerrillas."

"ruses of war

Ruses of war are not prohibited. These include camouflage, decoys, mock operations and misinformation. (Protocol I, Art 37, Sec. 2) Pretending to surrender, however, is not an accepted ruse of war (see perfidy). Neither is falsely using a Red Cross emblem."

To be continued.

 

[rockwool]

"sabotage

An occupying power may sentence civilians to death if they are guilty of serious acts of sabotage — but only if these offenses were punishable by death by local laws before the occupation began. (Convention IV, Art. 68)"

"starvation

Starvation of civilians as a method of warfare is prohibited. (Protocol I, Art. 54, Sec. 1)"

"stateless persons

Refugees and stateless persons are protected by the Fourth Geneva Convention to the same extent as civilians in occupied territories. (Protocol I, Art. 73)"

"terrorism

Civilians who commit an offense against an occupying power which does not include an attempt against the lives of members of the occupying force or administration, pose a grave collective danger, or seriously damage property or installations of the occupying power may only be punished by internment or imprisonment. (Convention IV, Art. 68)

Civilians in an occupied territory must not be subject to collective penalties or any other measures of intimidation or terrorism. (Convention IV, Art. 33)"

"torture

Torture is forbidden by the Geneva Conventions, both in cases of internal conflicts (Convention I, Art. 3, Sec. 1A), wounded combatants (Convention I, Art. 12), civilians in occupied territories (Convention IV, Art. 32), civilians in international conflicts (Protocol I, Art. 75, Sec. 2Ai) and civilians in internal conflicts (Protocol II, Art. 4, Sec. 2A)."

"transfer of civilians

See deportation, ethnic cleansing, evacuation."

"unlawful confinement

Unlawful confinement of civilians is a grave breach of the Geneva Convention. (Convention IV, Art. 147)"

"violence

Civilians have special protections under Convention IV, Protocol I, and Protocol II.

They must be treated humanely, without discrimination based on race, color, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or other similar criteria.

Violence to life and person including murder, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture are prohibited."

"volunteer corps

See guerrillas."

"war crimes

War crimes are againt the customary laws of war which are applicable in any conflict, regardless of whether the country in question is a signatory to the Geneva Convention. They include the rights listed in the common article 3 of the Geneva Conventions (Convention I, Article 3) and the basics of human rights law – freedom from torture, mutilation and rape, slavery, and willful killing. Customary law also forbids genocide, crimes against humanity, as well as war crimes.

See grave breaches."

"water supplies

See blockades."

"willful killing

See indiscriminate attacks."

"wounded combatants

The wounded and sick are to be collected and cared for by the party that has them in its power. (Convention I, Art. 3, Sec. 2)

The wounded cannot renounce their Geneva Convention protections (Convention I, Art. 7)"



What I haven't taken all to much into consideration here are the prisoners of different conflicts.

 

[DaveW]

if those were true (although you can tell the customary accepted definition among nations isnt exactly as that) i´d probably be saluting the che, and paying my dues to fidel, and likely summarily executed for making comments about the regime on the internet....

since no option would have been left to fight guerillas under the umbrella of aparent civilians. sometimes well meaning ideas can end up promoting the very same scenarios they were supposed to fight against.

what would jesus do? what would the world do if another hitler sprouted?
obbey and die? say **** it and live?

?????? So to object to international laws designed to prevent Nazi like abuses......... You invoke "what would the world do if another hitler sprouted? obbey and die? say **** it and live?"

WTF????? :hot:

Is Pinoche a family freind by any chance? :mumble:

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

?????? So to object to international laws designed to prevent Nazi like abuses......... You invoke "what would the world do if another hitler sprouted? obbey and die? say **** it and live?"

WTF????? :hot:

Is Pinoche a family freind by any chance? :mumble:

nope.
i dont object international laws to prevent nazi like abuse.
i object international laws that allow terrorists to exploit them for selfish gain at the expense of what they consider their enemies and those from their who will die when the other side hits back.
in the long run, they indirectly contribute to strenghten terrorists and make guerrilla warfare more attractive for anybody willing to make a point.
just like i´d object any umbrella law used to cover any other crime. in fact, geneva conventions arent really a ON-OFF cover for terrorists and civilians agrouped either.

am saying once one side disregards them, there should be no moral/legal obligation for the other side not to.
otherwise you are indirectly favouring and protecting the former.

 

[Changleen]

am saying once one side disregards them, there should be no moral/legal obligation for the other side not to.
otherwise you are indirectly favouring and protecting the former.

Sounds like the fast track to a race to the bottom. No thanks.

 

[rockwool]

nope.
i dont object international laws to prevent nazi like abuse.
i object international laws that allow terrorists to exploit them for selfish gain at the expense of what they consider their enemies and those from their who will die when the other side hits back.
in the long run, they indirectly contribute to strenghten terrorists and make guerrilla warfare more attractive for anybody willing to make a point.
just like i´d object any umbrella law used to cover any other crime. in fact, geneva conventions arent really a ON-OFF cover for terrorists and civilians agrouped either.

am saying once one side disregards them, there should be no moral/legal obligation for the other side not to.
otherwise you are indirectly favouring and protecting the former.

I could argue with you on every sentence you've written to show you anoter side of that story. But that would take away the light from the most important thing you brought up.
What sets humans apart from animals are the moments that we don't act like them; When we use our higher inteligence to constantly develop and act after a higher moral. If you don't show by action that you are doing this, how can you claim to be better?

 

[Old Man G Funk]

I could argue with you on every sentence you've written to show you anoter side of that story. But that would take away the light from the most important thing you brought up.
What sets humans apart from animals are the moments that we don't act like them; When we use our higher inteligence to constantly develop and act after a higher moral. If you don't show by action that you are doing this, how can you claim to be better?

That, and we use utensils.

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

I could argue with you on every sentence you've written to show you anoter side of that story. But that would take away the light from the most important thing you brought up.
What sets humans apart from animals are the moments that we don't act like them; When we use our higher inteligence to constantly develop and act after a higher moral. If you don't show by action that you are doing this, how can you claim to be better?

why should the narcisistic ideal of "being better"matter more than actual human lives, if we are talking in the long run?

it can be more rational to kill 10 people if that avoids the deaths of 20, instead of wrapping around the romatic ideal of persuit of moral for moralism itself while reality keeps happening and people still die.

 

[DaveW]

Following that logic.... as there are only 6 mill Israelis and 40-50 mill arabs and you seem to think wiping out one side entirely is the only solution, it would be better to kill the israeli's.
Especially as they are the aparently genocidal ones killing 50-60 civilians to every israeli death (mainly israeli soliders).

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

Following that logic.... as there are only 6 mill Israelis and 40-50 mill arabs and you seem to think wiping out one side entirely is the only solution, it would be better to kill the israeli's.
Especially as they are the aparently genocidal ones killing 50-60 civilians to every israeli death (mainly israeli soliders).

1st, i think you can fix things up with less than 6 million dead people. 2nd, the israelis got the big guns, pretty naive to argue against that.
and, this isnt a problem of upper boundaries either. i mean, we could just finish off every human older than 5, and start all over again to try to fix all of mankind problems, but that really isnt the idea.

plus, not every arab needs to be wiped out. so it isnt 40-50 million for the math.

 

[Old Man G Funk]

1st, i think you can fix things up with less than 6 million dead people. 2nd, the israelis got the big guns, pretty naive to argue against that.
and, this isnt a problem of upper boundaries either. i mean, we could just finish off every human older than 5, and start all over again to try to fix all of mankind problems, but that really isnt the idea.

plus, not every arab needs to be wiped out. so it isnt 40-50 million for the math.

But, you have no problem with threatening utter anihilation for the 40-50 million arabs for the sake of the 6 millions Israelis, which does nothing more than cause resentment and more deaths on both sides?

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

But, you have no problem with threatening utter anihilation for the 40-50 million arabs for the sake of the 6 millions Israelis, which does nothing more than cause resentment and more deaths on both sides?

resentment isnt equal to dead people.
i think more so if there is enough fear.
i think you have to stop the killings before the resentment. resentment isnt just gonna go away while people is still dying.

 

[Old Man G Funk]

resentment isnt equal to dead people.
i think more so if there is enough fear.
i think you have to stop the killings before the resentment. resentment isnt just gonna go away while people is still dying.

People are already resentful enough that they are killing. Adding more resentment simply leads to more death in an atmosphere where death has become a viable solution.

You resent the fact that people are afraid to go to a cafe for fear of being blown up, yes? Instead of addressing that, you simply want to make sure that more people are afraid of being blown up. The Israelis attack because they are afraid. Will the Muslims not act the same way, while also viewing Hezbollah as a more moral alternative to Israeli hegemony? (BTW, that's a rhetorical question since we already know the answer is in the affirmative.) In the end, you create more death, more resentment, solve nothing, and make yourself just as bad as your enemy.