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Something else about health insurance.

Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
42,374
19,901
Riding past the morgue.
Thank god we have the best health care in the world.

I'm sure you have no debt whatsoever.
PS: HOLY ****ING HELL!
Nope. I am very lucky in that regard. My coworkers donated enough vacation and sick time to me that I collected a paycheck the entire 3 months I was out of work. Which also enabled me to maintain my health insurance premiums. I had short term disability insurance also but after seeing those checks there is no way we could have made it on that alone. I'm actually very happy with pacificare, its my employer trying to get me off its payroll to save its money while I was out that pushed me to the extreme left on the health care reform issue. My employer has whats called "self funded" health care which was explained to me by a friends mom who works for pacificare this way. My employer pays pacificare to "manage" the health care program with any actual expenses being paid out by my employer. As you can see in my response to JermeyR, my employer got in a real big hurry to wipe me from the liability portion of its balance sheet.

Pesqueeb,
What did your health insurance company pay out total for your accident, and how does that amount compare to your monthly premium?

Just curious.
When I was 19, I was in motorcycle accident where a car did a u turn in front of me and I flew over 100 feet over his car. I had a compound fracture in my right leg that stuck into my left calf muscle.
5 surgeries later I was healed up.
My monthly premium was under $100 a month and the insurance company payed out $70,000 for the claim.
At the time I was paying 180 dollars a month for my employer provided care, its gone up of course every year and my family has expanded so I'm paying about twice that now. I know when I checked out of the hospital (on good Friday!) the bill was in excess of 740,000 dollars. I don't know how much of that insurance actually paid. Also, I continued to go to out patient rehab for almost another 4 months, plus doctors visits, prescriptions, my last surgery in 2008 etc, so I assume the bill must total over a million dollars by now. I paid my premiums for almost 5 years before my accident and had never even seen a doctor till they wheeled my ass into the ER. I figured at one point that I had spent over 11,000 on insurance with out any out put on my employers end until I got hit.
 

Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
42,374
19,901
Riding past the morgue.
DAMN, that is intense. Glad you're still with us.

How the **** did they also run OVER you?

So it was a hit and run?
I'm not sure of the physics involved but I think I was thrown a good piece. You can see the scoot, and then where all my clothes are, which is where I was cut out of them a fair distance away. She blew a stop sign which is how the whole ball got rolling. She did finally stop. You can see her car on the left hand side of the opposite lane in the back ground of the accident scene picture.

I take very good care of myself but I have psoriasis. Care is pretty cheap for me but there is a slim chance I could require very expensive medicine in the future. I would love to start my own business but one of the big things stopping me is health insurance would be very expensive. If I lose my job I have get a personal coverage plan because if I ever drop coverage for even a single day no insurance company will ever have to cover my pre-existing condition. I have a good job and live a simple live, I'm saving enough money to retire before I am 50. Of course because of health insurance I need to work for a large corporation and probably will have to work until medicare kicks in no matter what.

Oh yeah, the expensive medication I might need is also 33% cheaper in Canada.
Given the way my employer treated me, I would love to find other work myself. But since most employers have a 90 day period before your eligible for benefits I either have to pay for COBRA for 3 months (it was 600 dollars a month for two party coverage last I looked) or find some other way to get coverage or then all of my injuries are "preexisting conditions" that wont be covered if I start to have other problems in the future.
 

dante

Unabomber
Feb 13, 2004
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looking for classic NE singletrack
I said ALMOST everything the gov't runs. And I never said anything about hating the military or the CDC. You sharing Silvers brain or something?
And police, and firefighting, and education, and disaster relief, and and and...

Let me put it this way. I want the gov't to protect my safety, health and well-being since I don't trust a for-profit company to do what might not be in their best (financial) interest. I don't want to pay for a private fire dept to protect my house. I don't want to pay for a private police dept that I can call if there's a home invasion. I also don't want a private health care company deciding whether I'm "economically viable" before they can insure me. Why is it that if someone breaks into my house and holds a gun to my head, I can call on the government to come save my life. However, if I get diagnosed with cancer I'm SOL unless I have private health care (that lasts through the whole ordeal) or quit my job and go on Medicaid. How is that fair? I can call on the gov't to save my life in some instances but not others?